Haloid1177
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GitS was decent visually, but dire in almost every other way.
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'Blade Runner 2049' Is A Box Office Disaster With Poor $13M Friday
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GitS was decent visually, but dire in almost every other way.
Hate transformers, loved prisoners, sicario and arrival. Wasn't a fan of this movie.
People still can't grasp the fact that people have legitimate reasons for not liking a film outside of "he/she has bad taste".
Don't do that...I do that with like 99% of movies, but this isn't the one.
The audio/visual experience is worth every penny.
...and it was a good decision!
This movie's gonna make his movie back, I'm sure of it. At least when it's released on Blu-Ray.
nightmare-slain
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it might not "perform" well but hey i got to watch an awesome movie and will be buying it on blu ray where i can watch it as much as i like. but yeah it does sucks that it'll mean we're unlikely to see any future blade runner movies any time soon and maybe even less cyberpunk movies.
Glass Shark
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Guys I found it...the worst take on GAF
Yeah, exactly. Also, I don't think the "it's too artsy/too slow for the masses" and "it was marketed as an action movie when it wasn't" are good arguments to explain the bad performance on opening weekend. Later on, sure, but the first day when nobody has seen it yet? Not much time for word of mouth. It's mostly about marketing and the weird franchise name people don't know much about.
It seems you're not a big fan of the artistic or the audio/visual part of films?
More of an action/thrill ride kind of person? (there's nothing wrong with this)
Just the imagery alone in Blade Runner had me admiring each shot. The set pieces, the soundtrack, the attention to detail in scenes. I found the entire movie enthralling.
I need to watch it again as I like to look at all the things a movie brings to the table. Usually on my second watch I focus on the backgrounds, the sets, anything but the main character/focus on the screen.
jack_package_200
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Seeing it again. Movie is a masterpiece
Been awhile since I have seen takes so bad.
Been awhile since I have seen takes so bad.
Haha well all right.
I obviously don't consider Villeneuve an actual asshole, and I don't really think he squandered their money, but I will never understand how this movie got made and how this is the cut that was released to theaters considering Alcon's expectations.
Nah they did good, more should follow their lead. There are plenty of other movies that could take some cuts in the budget if necessary. Support filmmakers and let them do their thing.
Legendary I think. Which could mean China money. Not sure what impact this bomba will have on it.
No one knows how this movie got made. It's the greatest mystery of all. I think even Villeneuve is probably looking back at it going "oooooooooh boy how did that happen."
Tony Redgrave
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The production team knew what they were doing, they'll get their money back after the worldwide release is done and on the Blu Ray market.
The Blade Runner+BR2049 bundle alone will probably make good cash worldwide over time. That's not even counting special editions, director's cut etc.
If they really need it Ridley still has quite some Blade Runner cut material for a super dooper final cut ver 2.0
The Blade Runner+BR2049 bundle alone will probably make good cash worldwide over time. That's not even counting special editions, director's cut etc.
If they really need it Ridley still has quite some Blade Runner cut material for a super dooper final cut ver 2.0
100% convinced the producers just loved the original, had a way to convince investors and said fuck it. Rare case of actually loving art more than money.
Villenueve came under the allocated budget by 30 million. What more do you want from him?
TIL I'm a diehard Ridley Scott fan that doesn't understand scifi. Cool, care to share what you define as real scifi?
GoldenCrow
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They are two completely different genres. Blade Runner is more comparative to Breathless, Blue Velvet, Dirty Harry, The French Connection, Chinatown than it does any other sci-fi film because despite the setting it is a neo-noir film.
Money be damned. Im sorry but thats how I feel in this case.
It was a cinema experience I will never forget. As a Blade Runner fan it was a sequal I never thought I would get, let alone meet and succeed all my expectations.
They avoided pandering to any modern day movie bullshit and delivered something I will never forget.
Time will remember this movie as something special rather than its finances. Sometimes great art is like that.
It was a cinema experience I will never forget. As a Blade Runner fan it was a sequal I never thought I would get, let alone meet and succeed all my expectations.
They avoided pandering to any modern day movie bullshit and delivered something I will never forget.
Time will remember this movie as something special rather than its finances. Sometimes great art is like that.
jack_package_200
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These are my feelings on it as well.
brochiller
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We actually studied Blade Runner and discussed its impact on the science fiction genre in a Science Fiction literature and media class I took at my University.
I have no idea where you are getting the notion that Blade Runner isn't sci fi.
streetsahead123
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The producers very much did not know what they were doing. Blade Runner means nothing to most people under 35 and thats where most ticket sales come from. This movie has to make upwards of $400 million to make a profit and even if it does get there, the production company is probably going to have to shut down before then as theyre relatively small and said that this movie was make or break for them.
Yeah, the movie Sony (not WB as was pointed out) funded turned out amazing. I was just going after the notion that it's somehow Villeneuve's fault when he was just doing what everyone would have expected him to do with such material.
Just like near the end when k was going to
save deckard, any other director would have made a break in to the Wallace building, shoot out with slow mo and industrial music. It might have been cool but it wouldn't have been blade runner
Bloodporne
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So the only Blade Runner fans have to be either A) Ridley Scott fan boy "choir" B) Sci-Fi philistines.
I don't even know where to start with this nonsense. How about I, and probably many more, saw the movie and really fucking liked it, can that be option C) without some insanely smug derision? This isn't the IMDB comment section.
I also *actually* did read the book and still enjoy both versions. Imagine a world where people who enjoyed Blade Runner can also read, the insanity!
On topic: Sadly, the box officers numbers aren't that surprising but well, still unfortunate. I just don't think the trailer was convincing, Blade Runner is nearing ancient territory by now and going to the movies with several people, let alone a family, is fucking expensive. I can imagine many out there not wanting to take a chance on this if they weren't familiar with the original and only saw that weak trailer. I'm a huge fan and even I wasn't particularly thrilled until reviews came out.
I see a lot of people calling this a hot take and I dont see why. Hes exactly right.
Why would they spend this much money on a sequel to a cult classic? Its not a widespread beloved franchise.
Why is it ok to bash Ghostbusters2016 for such a huge budget but not BR2049? At least people have heard of Ghostbusters.
IISANDERII
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Yup cant wait for the VHS
Well to be fair, Blade Runner 2049 is being heralded as a masterpiece and all-time sci-fi classic by the (few) who went to it as well as critics.
Ghosbusters '16 didn't have such a reaction.
Quality of the product?
It seems like you want entertainment. BR 2049 is more an arthouse thinkers sci-fi film than anything you would typically get at the cinema. I understand people do go to the cinema sometimes to just zone out to an action film or average comedy flick, but BR 2049 has a purpose beyond that and is more interesting and thoughtful to watch. It doesn't promise enjoyment of the kind I think you're seeking at the movies.
Bingo.
The general consensus critically and by audiences who actually went seems to land on one of the greatest sci-fi films ever made.
Who was saying that coming out of Ghostbusters?
Ghostbusters is a shit film, so all that money went towards producing trash.
Spieler Eins
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Villeneuve got Hans Zimmer, Ryan Gosling and an anime though, what more do you need, heh.
Im referring to the budget vs. box office result, not the quality.
Many said Ghostbusters 16 had way too large a budget, and that was for a familiar franchise with massive upside. Yeah, they screwed it up, but thats not my point.
BR is at best a cult classic. It has no widespread appeal. The budget is obscene for a property like this.
Lasthope106
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Yeap. This movie has classic written all over it.
Infernostew
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Me too! Best class ever.
Triggerhappytel
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The one time Sony releases a good film and it's still a massive bomb.
There's some pretty big differences here:
1) Ghostbusters doesn't need high-budget CGI and action sequences to work
2) Despite its budget, most of the film looked and felt like a cheap SNL sketch
And most importantly:
3) The end result was kinda crap so we didn't even get a good product out of it
The reason few are complaining is due to quality though.
I dont think there is a single film goer who saw BR2049 who wishes it had a lower budget. This is a movie that will be regarded as one of the greatest sci-fi film ever made for decades. It bombing at the boxoffice is worth having a piece of lasting cinema like 2049.
I would agree with this. For instance none of the marketing reveals that Ana de Armas' character
is a hologram. It's revealed in her first scene in the film, but look at any of the marketing and you'd go in assuming she was a human or replicant.
Revealed quickly or not, it's still a surprise.
To get back to where I started, a post about the budget shouldnt be dismissed as a hot take because you like the end product. Its a box office thread.
But the comparison to Ghostbusters makes it relevant. You are going to get more outrage out of an expensive film under-performing if its a film that got mixed to average reactions at best compared to a film that is getting near universal praise from those who saw it.
I have to think part of the problem was not making the original Blade Runner abusable on pretty much every streaming service before the movie came out.
Netflix and Amazon Prime should have had it available for their customers ... Even if they only had like a 3 month deal. Get more people setting it creates more of an audience.
Netflix and Amazon Prime should have had it available for their customers ... Even if they only had like a 3 month deal. Get more people setting it creates more of an audience.
It's a great movie for sure. I'd love to get back out to the theater and see it again.
The way I see it:
+ decent marketing prior to release
+ good star power
- sci-fi epic
- nearly 3 hours in length
- not for the idiots as they get confused easily
So, I'm not surprised that it didn't make 100 million this weekend. This isn't that easy of a sell to the general public, even with Gosling. I know it's been posted in this thread but the original is quite the cult classic. That doesn't typically translate into giant box office numbers.
The way I see it:
+ decent marketing prior to release
+ good star power
- sci-fi epic
- nearly 3 hours in length
- not for the idiots as they get confused easily
So, I'm not surprised that it didn't make 100 million this weekend. This isn't that easy of a sell to the general public, even with Gosling. I know it's been posted in this thread but the original is quite the cult classic. That doesn't typically translate into giant box office numbers.
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