More_Badass
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No, its in the Final Cut. I saw the Final Cut the other day
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Blade Runner 2049 Review Thread
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Yea it's the line Gaff asks Deckard at the end "But are you sure you are a man?" that was added in Director's cut then removed in Final cut.
More_Badass
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Oh, yeah, thats really really blatant. Glad it was removed
Inferno313
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His tweets rarely do.
Tbf, he tweets in Japanese and then an assistant does a rough translation for his English account.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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BronsonLee
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I haven't looked at reviews too much to avoid spoilers but people are saying Batista is really good in this?
Any reason I have to post this clip I will do it so here's Batista shooting Ja Rule in the head from a terrible DTV movie
Homie came from that to Marvel, Bond, and now this
Any reason I have to post this clip I will do it so here's Batista shooting Ja Rule in the head from a terrible DTV movie
Homie came from that to Marvel, Bond, and now this
NealMcCauley
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That's a Kojima ass analogy.
Did you see the prequel short film 2048: Nowhere to run? It gives a taste of what his character is like.
Especially the "he didn't create a sequel to Blade Runner 2049", lol
I'm... pretty sure it's not.
Yeah it's there, I just watched the Final Cut the other day, which is why I'm saying the two different endings, with different implications for the main character, aren't just "tonally" different, they basically change the entire moral of the movie.
I believe this is Kojima's way of saying "it's very good and not a rehash".
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My favourite game director praising my favourite movie director about the sequel to my favourite movie that is now better than my favourite movie.
My life. Is love.
Yah watched the Final Cut to remind myself what was different from Directors cut and to show the movie to my GF for the first time... I forgot this was the one with the digitally replaced face on the actress stunt-double, slightly adjusted unicorn day-dream sequence, and I'm not sure what else really...
The origami was there and my GF picked up on what it meant immediately. (I was never smart enough to all these decades... I think I had to read it online...)
There is no difference to the ending from the Director's Cut, right?
Final Cut definitively answers what Deckard is. Which changes quite a bit going into 2049 I would assume, since the original PKD and to a lesser extent the more ambiguous versions were robots-becoming-human and humans-losing-humanity. Final Cut undermines that quite a bit.
But then, 2049 has an older Harrison Ford, so how do replicants age - this basically creates a bunch of confusion going into the movie that is or isn't there depending on which versions of the original you've watched.
How?
Yeah, the question isn't "Is Deckard a replicant or not?" but "What difference does it make?"
The shot of the dove flying after "tears in rain" is altered. In directors cut it's jarring as fuck, the building looks wrong and the sky is blue. Ending is the same.
Deckard being a replicant hunting other replicants is different than humans hunting replicants, and him being a replicant significantly changes what his character is and what he can physically do in 2049.
PKD wrote about it (and the original screenwriter agrees)
Even Harrison Ford believed he was better left human, it was only Ridley Scott that had a raging boner for making a big twist at the end for whatever reason.
We're back down to a 94%/8.4. 74/5. Not bad, not bad at all. I would expect lots more reviews today?
Can't wait to see this!
That's awesome. Hope you enjoy the film man.
Can't wait to see this!
That's awesome. Hope you enjoy the film man.
Lmao, so now I know why me and my teacher got so confused. We were talking about Blade Runner today and he talked about Deckard and Rachel driving into the sunset which left me confused, as I didn't see that. He asked me what the ending was and I told him about the unicorn origami and the elevator, and he was perplexed. Seems like he had seen the Director's Cut only, and I have only seen the Final Cut. So we was talking about the same movie after all.
Btw, if we say Deckard was a replicant, wouldn't they have had to upgrade him to a Nexus 8 some time for him to be alive in 2049?
Btw, if we say Deckard was a replicant, wouldn't they have had to upgrade him to a Nexus 8 some time for him to be alive in 2049?
You have very clear examples of humans acting with apathy and replicants with deep human desire throughout the film. That Deckard is a replicant yet is unknowingly capable of developing the same apathetic tendencies of humans only further shows similarities between humans and replicants. The fact that a replicant fell in love with a replicant doesn't make a difference either because neither were aware of this. The only way I can see it be argued otherwise is if it's assumed that replicants are intrinsically more attracted to other replicants than humans. The more essential element of this is that replicants are capable of love at all.
I don't think Dick's, the screen writer's or Ford's original intent matter much.
I don't think Dick's, the screen writer's or Ford's original intent matter much.
As the great unwashed are likely going to start seeing this today, I threw the OT up:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=250899941#post250899941
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=250899941#post250899941
VenomousCoffee
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I've thought Batista was good in everything I've seen him in. IMO he steals the entire movie in SPECTRE despite (basically) never speaking, and he's even good in Riddick.
Aside from the visuals, I'm most interested in seeing how they handle this.
Inferno313
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Wait, has someone in this thread seen it?
Adry9
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The fact the arguments are still made after 35 years is what makes the original a timeless classic.
We're not really arguing interpretations, we're arguing which version of the film is canon because Scott is a meddler like Lucas.
demosthenes
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Watched on Tuesday and it is not missing from the Final Cut.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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Time to go blind, like Leto!
Haloid1177
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Some theaters are doing a double feature tonight. Mine was supposed to but changed it to Final Cut only tonight, which sucks.
Bill R Boggess
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He was great in that prequel short from last month.
AuthenticM
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wow, I didn't know. This was confirmed?
According to imdb, France, Belgium and Switzerland is getting it today and there are probably some events in the US. Most of Europe is tomorrow.
tonysidaway
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No spoilers here as such, but I know some people may have deliberately avoided watching the prequels. Exercise caution before clicking.
They're not field-upgradable, any more than you or I would be. All the older generation androids are declared shoot-on-sight after the blackout, and as far as I'm aware this would still apply to Deckard as conceived by Scott.
But if Deckard was a replicant he would not have been able to live all the way till 2049, since the Nexus 6 androids only have a 4-year lifespan. To me personally, he is human, but I do wonder how they would go about this if he were to be a replicant.
Nappuccino
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I don't remember that line from either cut.
tonysidaway
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Having only seen him in the Guardians films I didn't even recognise David Bautista in the 2048 Nowhere to Run short. His entire performance in that brief film is a delight. Part of that is surely direction and writing, but they also cast the right guy if they want a character the audience will care about.