US releases are still 1 year+ apart though.
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US releases are still 1 year+ apart though.
SolarPowered
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BB has only gotten worse over time according to most folks in the American scene so the arcade testing argument doesn't hold up all that well. Really... I've been buying and playing the latest BBs for the story and new characters. The gameplay is kinda just there at this point. All I can say is that it's not SFxT levels of bad so I stick with it.
That wasn't even a year. A new version was announced after 3-4 months of absolute radio silence from Capcom and UMvC3 came out about 8 months after vanilla. Probably the worse example of release scheduling in this generation besides Extend.
Prototype-03
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Yeah, but nobody wants to be playing the old version. It's like if you were playing an outdated version of p4a. You kinda don't want to invest your time in it when you know your combo won't work in a few months. But again, Arc always does this so I don't mind it but it's one of the major reasons why people lose interest fast.
BB HAS gotten worse. CS1 was probably the best revision so far. Although I mained the trash tier until Valkenhayn came along. If I had to choose between SF4 and Extend though, I'd still pick Extend in a heartbeat. However, I'd pick p4a over Extend even though I like the BB series overall than p4a.
I mean this was the same thing for Street Fighter IV, it's just that AE was the only arcade revision.
Doesn't Tekken get like tons of updates that never make it to console or something? But then again, console releases are also released super late relative to the arcade game.
I mean it's just the problem of being a fighting game fan outside of Japan.
It's a waste of time to play competitively a game that you know is going to be replaced shortly and will make a significant percentage of the knowledge you've learned playing the current revision pointless.
They have made a habit of changing Litchi's core mechanics in every revision. It makes me not want to play when I know a new one is coming because my character is going to be barely recognizable when the new revision hits.
cj_iwakura
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Hate to break it to you, but the BB games have HUGE scripts, and Aksys are good localizers. It's not like this is SF with some hack story or UMVC3 with none whatsoever. This stuff takes time.
Not so with GG :<
He's comparing an arcade release to our console release.
It's not a fair comparison and Aksys can't do anything about that at all.
Again, others are comparing arcade releases to console releases. In the case of Guilty Gear, it's a fair comparison (that you made).
B guess what? Japan already got Guilty Gear XX Accent Core+R released in arcades, but only Accent Core+ (the same game that was on PS2/Wii/PSP for years) was released on XBLA/PSN (well on PSN yet).
In any case though, ArcSys is handling the digital release, not Aksys. They already did the localization for that, and I'm assuming ArcSys is just using what Aksys already did years ago for the story and whatnot.
As the name implies, Arc System Works is an arcade developer, 1st and foremost, and they probably like their arcade business (as does Bandai Namco), and that's just the way things work.
If we still had a thriving arcade scene, this wouldn't be an issue, but alas, we don't.
And of course, Aksys has no say whatsoever on what ArcSys chooses to do.
EDIT - Actually, doesn't Aksys or ArcSys do US arcade releases for BlazBlue games?
I think I saw fubarduck streaming the arcade version of Extend.
So yeah, if that's the case, we're never behind, just go over to Arcade UFO or something!
Aksys Games are the dudes who publish BB in the west (among other games). Arcsys (Arc System Works) are the Japanese company that MAKE the games (and persona 4 arena, guilty gear, etc).
No, they're independent companies.
Arc System Works is a Japanese developer/publisher, that while primarily develops fighting games, also has tackled other genres.
Aksys Games is a US publisher that primarily focuses on the localization of Japanese games, be it from Arc System Works, Chunsoft, Idea Factory, and so on. While Aksys has localized most of Arc System Works's games, they are not obligated to do so, and on the converse, Arc System Works can either distribute their games themselves (like they're doing with GGXXAC), or let another publisher handle them, neither are bound to one another. They've got a good relationship though, and BlazBlue is (or was) Aksys's biggest franchise (as well as ArcSys's).
And for the sake of putting it out there, Arc System Works has little control over Persona 4 Arena.
While they are the developers, Atlus owns the IP, and they can do whatever they want with it.
That's why you saw BlazBlue Chronos Phantasma announced so close to Persona 4 Arena's launch date, as Persona 4 Arena is not Arc System Work's property, so they don't decide when it comes out or not.
Arc System Works is a Japanese developer/publisher, that while primarily develops fighting games, also has tackled other genres.
Aksys Games is a US publisher that primarily focuses on the localization of Japanese games, be it from Arc System Works, Chunsoft, Idea Factory, and so on. While Aksys has localized most of Arc System Works's games, they are not obligated to do so, and on the converse, Arc System Works can either distribute their games themselves (like they're doing with GGXXAC), or let another publisher handle them, neither are bound to one another. They've got a good relationship though, and BlazBlue is (or was) Aksys's biggest franchise (as well as ArcSys's).
And for the sake of putting it out there, Arc System Works has little control over Persona 4 Arena.
While they are the developers, Atlus owns the IP, and they can do whatever they want with it.
That's why you saw BlazBlue Chronos Phantasma announced so close to Persona 4 Arena's launch date, as Persona 4 Arena is not Arc System Work's property, so they don't decide when it comes out or not.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Blazblue : Chrono Phantasma Opening
Nu and Mu have also been confirmed for BBCP.
Looks like they used Nu's ugh design from CT.
Nu and Mu have also been confirmed for BBCP.
Looks like they used Nu's ugh design from CT.
Prototype-03
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That is the only design, I think. Nu was not in CS.
edit: to be honest, I have no idea with the storyline. She died in CT and somehow back in CP. Now Lambda's dead?
Nu got off'd when she dived into the cauldron alone at the end of CT, but her pure love allowed her to piece herself back together, or so the story goes.
Lambda in CS was basically an empty shell after Kokonoe flushed the original Lambda's soul/personality down the drain and stuck what she'd extracted from Nu's in it. Which is now in Ragna after Lambda got absorbed into him. So it remains to be seen if there's anything left of the real Nu inside the body that reformed itself.
And yes, Nu's only had one design, which is the unarmored look from my avatar and the armored look that both she and Lambda have. Lambda's unamored look would be the same as Nu's only without the eyepatch/azure grimoire.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Referring to how her CT art doesn't look like her in other parts of the game. You can see in story mode and CS that her art there actually looks consistent across the board.
Master Milk
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Supposedly. The game seems to throw you sets sometimes. Like Missiles and Bombs back to back.
Is someone playing this now? >_>
cj_iwakura
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Tsubaki won God's Garden. And mutilated a Bang to do it.
Best day ever.
Best day ever.
Master Milk
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i've completely forgotten how to play this game ._.
cj_iwakura
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Beat up the other guy. Also, magical girls are banned.
Master Milk
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who in their right mind would banish magical girls? despicable
Master Milk
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yea ggs, yo
naw, platinum's slow as fuck
i would hit you with jabs a lot though, because it seemed like you were just mashing
Ya, I was trying to 5A and it kept whiffing :/, I also didn't know what to do when you were airborne, I have no idea what Bangs AA options are. Im not used to playing characters with really short range normals.
Why is Bangs 5A considered mitsuru godlike level? Or was that for a past revision? It almost seems like 5B is better.
Master Milk
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i have no idea, because i never properly learned the game
but if i had to guess, i'd say it's because bang has a thousand options when he gets someone blocking. i think fugu used to say that 5A in general was a really good move, but i haven't the slightest what exactly makes bang's so good
but if i had to guess, i'd say it's because bang has a thousand options when he gets someone blocking. i think fugu used to say that 5A in general was a really good move, but i haven't the slightest what exactly makes bang's so good
Sena doesn't count, right?
QisTopTier
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I thought about putting this game in the other day, then I looked down at it cried then threw it to the other side of the room.
Cant wait for cp though!
Cant wait for cp though!
Master Milk
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Oh! Oh!
Prototype-03
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I get tempted from time to time too. Then I just get mad that I even thought about it. I should pop it in and see if it still makes me angry.
Bang's 5A outranges a lot of other 5As, has insane pressure options on block, leads to real damage and/or knockdown, is functional as an AA, and is above average in speed. It's not as good as it used to be but it's still one of the biggest components of his game. You may be having trouble due to the fact that nothing, and I mean nothing, is as brain dead as playing Mitsuru.
As for "high priority normals", priority is only a thing when one or both of you is in the air; Bang is quite a bit faster than Platinum and probably should not be losing exchanges on speed unless you're trying to attack from a negative position or something. Also, Master Milk mashes out his attacks, so feel free to use 6D on wakeup or any time you think he's going to do something unsafe unless you think he's going to jump (even then, he has to do a normal/bat pretty low to the ground and not float).
This has happened to me a few times now. I really wish I didn't dislike P4A so much.
Master Milk
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I would imagine it's not an overly requested feature.
Most people that like and care about the story probably don't to be randomly interrupted just when they're getting to the good part!
Platinum
Platinum has a lot of mash potential I guess but she's one of the more difficult characters to take into competitive-level play.
Heart car isn't that great of a move if you don't have any meter. There are times where you should for sure use it (like when an opponent is in the middle of whiffing a very slow normal) but it's almost useless from block and it's not fast enough to punish most moves. Inversely, it is very, very easy to punish if it's read, and it usually will be read because it's slow; there is a reason that it does so much damage. Proper usage of heart car depends mostly on rapid availability. With a rapid, if it's blocked, you can just RC (and then maybe baseball bat if you happen to have it as it's frame one invulnerable), and on hit, you can rapid for big damage and carry. The only other use of heart car that I can think of is to hit opponents attempting to poke you within its range when you've got a read on the poke.
In fact, bad (read: liberal) heart car usage is probably the number one mark of a bad Platinum player: A lot of newer players only see it for its giant payoff, but it's so risky and predictable that the amount of times that you get lucky with it will be completely outweighed by the amount of times you just get read.
Master Milk
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Naw, scrubby Platinums are dead Platinums.
And like Fugu mentioned, spamming Heart Car (Mami Circular) will get you killed because it's so slow. You should only use it in combos, as a predictive punish, or, and this is something that you should wait until you have a much better feel for Platinum, in a situation where you know your opponent isn't expecting it and you have meter to RC just in case you get blocked anyway.
When I first started playing Platinum, I quickly learned to not touch Mami unless it's in a combo.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Is there a sizeable community left in this game? I'm considering picking up Extend since P4:A's online scene is pretty much dead, at least as far as ranked/player matches go.
SolarPowered
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The game has been more or less dead online for a while now. The online scene in Japan seems to be fine though.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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That's too bad. I guess I'll have to wait for BBCP. I might end up picking up GG in the meantime though.
cj_iwakura
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I still find a handful of matches online, much like with CS before E came out. The devout players will keep on playing, yours truly included.
cj_iwakura
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So uh, a BB scholar I know thinks 00 refers to Izayoi, the prototype Murakumo. Any credence to that?
(Sorry to crash the Saya party, I want that to happen too.)
(Sorry to crash the Saya party, I want that to happen too.)
Since this is already bumped... If something is random then getting repeat results is just a result of randomness on a per-trial basis. Making it avoid repeats would be LESS random.
DiscoShark
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Have been playing some CS2 lately after being motivated to play Blazblue again since the blitz of Chrono Phantasma vids have been coming and now I've been mulling over whether or not to grab Extend just to have the 'definitive' version of CS in my library. If I can find it cheap then I think I'd probably enjoy having all the delicious unlockable DLC (colors, voices, etc) that I skipped out on with CS as well having something to play until Chrono Phantasma gets around to having a console release date. I have a few friends online who play the game as well so the dead online isn't a huge factor for me either.
The standard's $19 on Amazon right now.
The limited's $32 now, but it was down to like $20 during Black Friday time.
The limited's $32 now, but it was down to like $20 during Black Friday time.