Septimus Prime
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Yhwach vs Galactus: who wins?
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its been downhill since the soul society rescue arc. It just alternates between straight drops of crap (Fullbringer, Fake Karakura Town) and slow descents (Arrancar, Heuco Mundo arc)
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
I know you're not saying it is, but I don't think it's been all bad. Hell, I like Vizards/Arrancars. I like Heuco Mundo. But I don't like these established rules that keep getting broken for narrative convenience and I don't like Ichigo's "Goku" syndrome. At least they put Goku on the bench to flesh out other characters sometimes. Ichigo just finds out he's even more special.
Lufiaddict
Member
Awesome. If I were filthy rich, I would pay Kubo to draw that.
I'm still hoping for Yhwach's "A" to not be "The Almighty" but rather "The Aizen"
everyone in the manga is convinced that he's got this all-seeing power and Ichigo spends a shit load of time to prep for it then Yhwach says "when were you under the impression that A stood for Almighty?"
Then Aizen
yes pls
everyone in the manga is convinced that he's got this all-seeing power and Ichigo spends a shit load of time to prep for it then Yhwach says "when were you under the impression that A stood for Almighty?"
Then Aizen
yes pls
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
How else would you describe it? Awesome art has nothing to do with the absurdity of how shit is playing out lol..
Gentleman Jack
Member
Struggling to think of the last time watching Ichigo fight someone yielded a satisfying conclusion. Grimmjow?
Mx0? xD
It used to be true for Hunter x Hunter, until one single fight made it not entirely true anymore (and even than it was a lot of better than manga's like Bleach do). Other action manga without hax that come to mind are Full Metal Alchemist
Father is getting pretty damn strong at the end, he isn't Hax though, he can't just walk through everything he gets visible hurt by everything and over the course of the series itself powerlevels stay stable
And on the other side is Shaman King that hax actually viable (in my eyes), even if it is full of dumb moments. But I found that super interesting.
The Big Bad is older and so much stronger than anyone else and wins the tournament story arc easily and the story ends with him winning, because not even the whole main cast can't take him. They just talk him into giving them time to change the corrupted world themselves, since he actually now has unlimited time with his giant power.
My "argument" was just reflecting the opinion in this thread.
It's been 15 years since I read it, but I don't recall Rurouni Kenshin having god-level bullshit going on.
To be fair, Bleach is more in the Dragon Ball category of shounen. The train > fight type manga. Kenshin really wasn't. Some of the guys were really strong, but not on the level of Goku.
IchigoSharingan
Member
I Don't Give a Fuck Anymoooooore 610 was quite a read!
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
Aizen. He planned everything already.
Welfare
Member
Just_myles
Member
I still continue to buy the volumes lol. I give up on it getting any better at this point.
TheRealTalker
Banned
I just hope Ichigo learns a new bloody move then another getsuga variant
Welfare
Member
It's like hoping Naruto gets a new move besides a different Rasengan.
Not going to happen.
Princess Carl
Member
plsssssssssssssssssssssssss
I'm still waiting for him to at least use a Cero. Hirako can do it so why not him?
Welfare
Member
Maybe his "Hollow" Zangetsu can fire Cero's while the Quincy Zangetsu can fire a Getsuga Tenshou.
You must have missed a certain fight before he took on Aizen.
That doesn't count. He's never used it of his own free will because he's a loser.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
DBZ power ups are ass pull as any other manga.
YYH had its share of ass pulls.
Gon killing the Pitou was so extremely dumb. Yeah jump in ability by making himself older or something.
One piece has never had anything on Bleach. From the Crocodile fight to the ass pull gears power up tp Zorro's and Sanji's ass pull power ups throughout the manga.
Fairy Tail friendship power up has been a joke since the beginning of the manga.
Talk about tension huh, you seem new to shonen manga. No tension in Bleach except when soul society was destroyed, or when Aizen was revealed. And lol on holding Bleach to a different standard as if not every shonen manga ever had its main characters win over villains in most arcs.
Your opinion is extremely biased and means absolutely nothing.
Saying that Kubo had a brain seizure is really Really dumb. You don't have to hyperbole everything to that extent.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Yep VL Ichigo would have been an awesome perma fight mode Ichigo.. Too cool
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Yes Vasto Lorde the one like Ulquiorra who destroyed Ichigo.
Or Barragan who dominated Soi Fong like she was nothing.
Or Starrk who fought two senior captains and destroyed two vizard captains.
Or Wonder Wiess who destroyed Kensei and Lisa, and took a shit load of beating from the captain commander. Yeah, Vasto Lorde lived up to the hype and then some.
Which is exactly the problem with this thread. There's no discussion there's just trolling.
I have not read Rurouni Kenshin so I can't comment on it.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Vasto Lordes and Captains are still amazingly powerful beings in the Bleach universe. The series is just experiencing the tail end of a constant power creep, where the current heroes and villains are at the very top tier of existence. And, honestly, Bleach isn't nearly as bad regarding this as some other shonen manga. The actual fights/abilities are a different story, but the way the raw concept of a power creep is handled isn't too bad.
Septimus Prime
Member
That's just as crazy as saying Batman can beat Superman Prime.
He can. Just like Aizen.
At this point, we should get a reveal that the "future" Yhwach is seeing has been Aizen's illusion the whole time. In fact, everything was an illusion; Aizen was actually a good guy. His whole plan was to lure out and trick Yhwach.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
FMA SPOILERS
Honestly I consider Edward's power up at the end to be an ass pull. For one I don't think the exchange was equivalent. Getting an arm back and your brother's body for losing alchemy, I don't see that exchange as equivalent. That really bothered me at the end of the manga.
Shaman King spoilers
Isnt that like talk no jutsu, which seems fairly convenient at the end? I mean honestly one can break anything to make it look bad
TomcatTheLion
Member
Funny thing about that is after that part of the arc was done I was almost left wondering if Hitsugaya was joking about how strong the Vasto Lordes were prior to their introduction.
If it weren't for Harribel being shown to be a Vasto Lorde at recruitment I would have forgotten they existed.
The Silver
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the whole Arrancar shit was hilarious, the vasto lorde were hyped to be even stronger than captains and when the time came to put in work they ended up losing with SS not taking a single casuality.
Even Aizen was embarrased at how badly they failed and had to solo the captains.
Even Aizen was embarrased at how badly they failed and had to solo the captains.
The Silver
Member
Yeah it wasn't confirmed they were vasto lordes until way later(Harribel is the only confirmed one but the two/three stronger than her had to be as well of course) at the time no one thought they were vasto lordes because of how badly they shit the bed.
Septimus Prime
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I believe only Hallibel is officially stated to be a Vasto Lorde. Barragan and Starrk are assumed to be because they outrank her, and Ulquiorra is also assumed to be because he looks like one, I guess. I suppose Nel could be one, too, since her previous rank was 3.
Hallibel jobbing to random Sternritter doesn't speak very highly of Vasto Lorde, though.
TomcatTheLion
Member
Harribel was the only one confirmed to be a Vasto Lorde. This was her form before becoming an Arrancar and Espada:
It can only be assumed Starrk and Barragan (and I guess Ulquiorra, which is a huge stretch) were Vasto Lordes as well.
For further useless information: Grimmjow was an Adjuchas and Aaroniero Arruruerie a Gillian.
NHarmonic.
Member
Well, Yhwach is basically god now? (Though those fucking eyes are even more ridiculous than the mangekyo sharingan/rinnegan in naruto)
Seriously this has become so uninteresting, it's more of a shore to read it nowadays...
Seriously this has become so uninteresting, it's more of a shore to read it nowadays...
These supposed Vasto Lordes were dealt with as they were Cannon fodder, yet we got a tease that Grimmjow might be alive in Hueco Mundo. Oh shit...
"Trolling", as you see it here,
it's actually just ridicule,
Read it. It's very worth while. It was Jump's top manga in the period leading up to the Naruto/One Piece/Bleach trinity.
Al transmuted Ed's arm for his soul, Ed didn't trade anything for his arm. Ed traded his alchemy, his door of truth specifically, for Al. You basically misunderstood the entire thing, the truth takes things away when people don't recognize their limits and tread on God's domain. By giving up his door, Ed recognizes his limits as a person and the punishment is reversed as the lesson is learned. The whole point of his monologue before giving up his door is that he realizes what he did wrong and how he shouldn't have been so arrogant, then he surrenders the power he had as a repentance.
Who the hell knows.
But we still have the Vizards and Yotsuya's sister coming into the picture, Rukia, Ushida, whoever comes over from that mission in Hueco Mundo, the remaining shinigami, and that zombie-controlling trans person who at last appearance seemed upset. (Each arc has bad guys who switch sides.) Oh, and Ichigo.
So, at least two years more worth of material.
Astral Dog
Member
This is still going?
I left it around episode 12 of the anime, what happens after?
I left it around episode 12 of the anime, what happens after?
Starfish Hero
Member
A bunch of bullshit. Shit's basically a parody of Shonen, and has been for years.
AwakenedCloud
Member
I can't even bother to read it anymore now that Naruto is over. Bleach is the metaphorical leftovers in the fridge that get eaten because the main meal didn't fill you up.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Ulquiorra, Barragan, Starrk, Harribel, and Wonder Wiess are Vasto lorde. Starrk, Ulquiorra, and Wonder Wiess are confirmed Vasto lorde. Wonder Wiess when Aizen showed the power of the Hougyoku. He was humoined which is a big sign of a Vasto lorde. Starrk when he can showed his power, splitting his soul and killing his hollows with just his riatsu. Ulquiorra and the mentioned were confirmed Vasto Lorde in the data book that was released about the arrancars.
It´s more like shitting because something happened that you don´t like. It´s just a place for haters to come and hate, period. Ridiculous bullshit as you see it is just hate.
It´s better than any other shonen, and stand side by side to HXH.
Starfish Hero
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