Blizzcon 2008

As I understand it, you'll be able to play multiplayer with ALL races no matter which pack you have, but to play the single-player campaigns of the others, you'll need to buy them individually.
 
Zzoram said:
Apparently Idra 2:0 Yellow :D :D :D

Idra is finally showing the results of his move from the USA to Korea to join CJ Entus, and is the only non-Korean to advance to the quarter-finals.
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It's a goddamn shame competitive Starcraft doesn't get more attention on these boards. Excellent coup for Idra I hope he can keep making progress.

Belfast said:
As I understand it, you'll be able to play multiplayer with ALL races no matter which pack you have, but to play the single-player campaigns of the others, you'll need to buy them individually.
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Basically the opposite of Dawn of War.
 
Belfast said:
As I understand it, you'll be able to play multiplayer with ALL races no matter which pack you have, but to play the single-player campaigns of the others, you'll need to buy them individually.
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Ya, and each single player campaign will be as big as all 3 campaigns in the original combined (it was ~10 each, now it's ~30).
 
Mindlog said:
It's a goddamn shame competitive Starcraft doesn't get more attention on these boards. Excellent coup for Idra I hope he can keep making progress.
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Starcraft II is supposed to expand e-sports in NA/EU, so hopefully that works.
 
Each campaign will be very different, with Pardo saying the Zerg campaign will contain RPG elements. The Protoss campaigin will likewise be differentiated by elements of diplomacy. In addition, the Terran campaign will contain a Protoss mini-campaign.
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It's pretty shameless milking, but I'm intrigued.
 
InsertCredit said:
HOLY MOLY, now THAT is unexpected :lol :lol

Seems blizz wants to get the multiplayer game out there ASAP :D
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That's the part that they have spent most of their development time working on, since that's what they have to make perfect. The campaigns are going to be really long and have a lot of cutscenes, so I don't mind waiting on them.
 
Hmmm, pretty blatant milking job there. So, $150 for the whole thing pretty much. I'll believe the claims about multiplayer being unaffected when I see it. Why not just go whole hog and sell a multiplayer only version for less?
 
Was already wondering how they are going to finish the development of the campaign, if all of them inculde stuff like the bar scene. Simple solution I guess.
 
Durante said:
It's pretty shameless milking, but I'm intrigued.
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I wouldn't say that. This game has been in development since Warcraft III finished, so it's development and marketing cost is probably ridiculous. They need to be able to make a load of cash on this to make it worth the effort, and justify their PC exclusivity.
 
I don't see why anyone's all that pissed off about this - look at Company of Heroes and Dawn of War - each only had 1 single-player campaign in them.

You can play online with all 3 races using only one game, and the first game (Terran) will have 25-30 missions in it.



Basically, it sounds like the 2nd and 3rd games will be optional purchases for people who care about more in-depth single player campaigns, while those who only care about multiplayer can stick with just one.
 
Kintaro said:
Hmmm, pretty blatant milking job there. So, $150 for the whole thing pretty much. I'll believe the claims about multiplayer being unaffected when I see it. Why not just go whole hog and sell a multiplayer only version for less?
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$150 for the whole thing is totally great, considering it's the game + 2 expansions. They haven't said anything about it, but in either the Zerg and Protoss add-ons they could add stuff to multiplayer.

The question is, how expensive will the collector's editions of each be, and when can I get my hands on them :D
 
Zzoram said:
That's the part that they have spent most of their development time working on, since that's what they have to make perfect. The campaigns are going to be really long and have a lot of cutscenes, so I don't mind waiting on them.
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Exactly.

These two expansions are also ideal candidates to add stuff to / change the multiplayer section to perfect the balance.

Can't wait to see what they've got up their sleeve for battle.net.
 
Jenga said:
Sounds like Blizzard just WANTS to give pirates an excuse.
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Um, no. Starcraft II is the one product that is actually worth this price, or more.

The first game will have 30 missions, which is as much as Starcraft 1 had adding up all 3 races, so that's not skimping at all.
 
What if they add extra stuff into the multiplayer game with these expansions? That'll basically force everyone to buy them.
 
Looks like not enough people played CoH and DoW. Sounds like a better version of the Relic model, which in itself is pretty awesome.
 
Xyphie said:
What if they add extra stuff into the multiplayer game with these expansions? That'll basically force everyone to buy them.
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And they will not hesitate for a second to do this.

I'm not buying this decision for a second. =/
 
Doesn't that just basically make the Zerg and Protoss games expansions? Blizz has always done expansions for all their games, so I don't see the huge problem. They'll probably contain new units/multiplayer stuff like their other expansions.
 
Jenga said:
Sounds like Blizzard just WANTS to give pirates an excuse.
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:lol Yeah Pirates needs an excuse. They'll pay $50, BUT NO MORE! After that it's free games for everybody.

Xyphie said:
What if they add extra stuff into the multiplayer game with these expansions? That'll basically force everyone to buy them.
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There are still a lot of people playing Dawn of War and Company of Heroes. However, Blizzard has a lot more respect and an understanding of their multiplayer product that needs to be taken into consideration. They won't be shitting out new races to convince people to keep up.

imo of course
 
aznpxdd said:
Damnit, Blizzard is milking us! But fuck man...they know we are just gonna gobble it all up.
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It's probably the only way they could convince their shareholders/Activision to let them keep making PC exclusives. I'm totally cool with this, I am personally willing to pay $100 per chapter for collector's editions if they are enticing enough.

Let me reiterate that the content in the Terran Campaign is as much as Starcraft 1 had if you add up all 3 campaigns, so there is no skimping of content.

Would you guys prefer they give 10 missions from each race, then add the other 20 over 2 expansion packs?

I'd rather do all of 1 race at a time frankly.
 
Zzoram said:
It's probably the only way they could convince their shareholders/Activision to let them keep making PC exclusives. I'm totally cool with this, I am personally willing to pay $100 per chapter for collector's editions if they are enticing enough.

Let me reiterate that the content in the Terran Campaign is as much as Starcraft 1 had if you add up all 3 campaigns, so there is no skimping of content.

Would you guys prefer they give 10 missions from each race, then add the other 20 over 2 expansion packs?

I'd rather do all of 1 race at a time frankly.
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I feel its milking, but if they give us an assload of missions I am willing to play. Probably only Blizzard and Valve could get away with doing this because they put out such quality products.
 
Jenga said:
Sounds like Blizzard just WANTS to give pirates an excuse.
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you cant play online with a pirated copy so how the fuck is this move hurting blizzard? if you want to play a blizzard game you want to play it online no matter which titel it is! so you have to buy it anyway or you miss the best part of it.

Spruchy said:
Buy the first one then pirate the next 2?
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and thats why they will add units in this 2 exp. packs i bet they will have exp- pack prices too
 
Xyphie said:
What if they add extra stuff into the multiplayer game with these expansions? That'll basically force everyone to buy them.
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Ok, this would annoy me. As long as multiplayer is not compromised I have no problem with it being a "trilogy". The second and third games would be the sort of thing I'd pick up way after release when I feel like playing more single player. If they add new units to each new game and force me to buy each one to keep up with the online community, it would just split up their user base and piss everyone off.
 
I don't think Blizzard is stupid enough to fuck with their fanbase by putting extra multiplayer units into the other chapters.
 
maniac-kun said:
you cant play online with a pirated copy so how the fuck is this move hurting blizzard? if you want to play a blizzard game you want to play it online no matter which titel it is! so you have to buy it anyway or you miss the best part of it.
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Buy the first one then pirate the next 2?
 
maniac-kun said:
you cant play online with a pirated copy so how the fuck is this move hurting blizzard?.
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you can play online with hamachi young one

And you're right, this move won't hurt blizzard. Fanboys make the world go round.
 
That Zeratul shot, OMG. So are all these expansions coming at the same time? I don't know if I could buy all the campaigns at once so I hope they spread it out.
 
Dreavus said:
Ok, this would annoy me. As long as multiplayer is not compromised I have no problem with it being a "trilogy". The second and third games would be the sort of thing I'd pick up way after release when I feel like playing more single player. If they add new units to each new game and force me to buy each one to keep up with the online community, it would just split up their user base and piss everyone off.
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Did everyone suddenly forget that this isn't the first RTS with expansion packs adding more campaign and multiplayer tweaks?
 
Zzoram said:
Did everyone suddenly forget that this isn't the first RTS with expansion packs adding more campaign and multiplayer tweaks?
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Exactly, sc multiplayer wasn't perfected till BW, and the same goes for wc3 / the frozen throne.

If there's a significant amount of time between the releases then there's no one going to complain. Heck, it's the ideal way to keep the game fresh.
 
Big-E said:
That Zeratul shot, OMG. So are all these expansions coming at the same time? I don't know if I could buy all the campaigns at once so I hope they spread it out.
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They are staggered, because they aren't done yet.
 
Jenga said:
I didn't have to pay $150 in total that time
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If you were in Canada, you might have. I paid $75 for Diablo 2 on day 1, and $50 for the expansion. Prices for games here used to be higher due to the exchange rate, but now we have game pricing parity.
 
Zzoram said:
Did everyone suddenly forget that this isn't the first RTS with expansion packs adding more campaign and multiplayer tweaks?
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Of course, simply pointed out that these in no way will be "optional" if you want to play online which is a point some people tried to make. No one plays vanilla SC, WC3 or D2, you're fucked if you don't have the expansions and it'll probably be the same with this. I'm not opposed of multiplayer expansions myself.
 
Dreavus said:
This is my chief concern. =(
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Hey, if the prices were $30, I'd be fucking relieved. but guess what? Blizzard doesn't even consider these "expansions", they're all just part of the main package. Or something.
 
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