I definitely think the last HC scum is between Zipped and camjo. Freakingchair is pretty much confirmed town. Crimson's power is confirmed and that would be a weird power for a hidden partner to have imo. I still think squidyj was checked by nudull on night 1. So that leaves zipped and camjo.
Zipped:
-very low key player
-was very focused on hobohodo/flame_ac throught the whole game
-He calls out ri'orius a little bit on day 1, but doesn't vote on him.
- His main suspects on day 2 were hobohodo, kalor, JQK, camjo-z and MickD
- He thought haly was town. Wasn't sure about weemad, had to read up on them, but never actually returns with the results of that.
- Pretty heavily against JQK
- Has a weird bandwagon vote on me, gives no reason except "its a bandwagon vote"
- Had some weird gambit about pretending he wasn't sure chair was town as some kind of trap?
- Thinks Vanguard, me and squidyj are all not scum
- Votes on squidyj purely as a counter vote.
Zipped looks very scummy looking at this, however, he doesn't feel like a hidden partner to me. I would expect a hidden partner to be a bit more active in order to get scum's attention. If we have more scum besides the hidden partner left, Zipped is a prime candidate, but he is not my main hidden partner suspect.
Camjo:
-Way more active then zipped
-Had that weird last minute vote to create a tie, while a HC member was on the block.
- Was pretty vocally against a verilios lynch throughout the whole game.
- Kept doubting chair was the vig for a pretty long time, only when I pointed to almost irrefutable proof in kristoffers role pm he let that go.
- Was pretty against weemad, especially after their role claim. This reminds me a bit of me in HP, where after crab made a roleclaim that was doomed to fail eventually, I was one of the main attackers of him to try and get some benefit from when he eventually would get outed as scum.
- Was agaibnst JQK.
- Jumped on me for being healed, but jumped off when squidyj outed it as a gambit.
However, the big thing that caught my eye when re-reading his posts, was this:
(Pre-typed message below, #hatersgonnahate)
Alright, we have....four new faces in here it looks like and a few semi-new players fresh off of their success or failures in season 5.5. This advice is a good reminder for vets and newbies alike regardless of how much some people want to call this annoying or otherwise useless. So here we go, this is DAY 1 people. In 95% of circumstances, there is exactly zero reason to claim unless we are in the final stretch of the day and you are an important PR that needs to be saved but that's an absolute last resort. Depending on the PR set up, it does us no good if you claim doctor when you are under very little or no pressure because then it is just an easy target for scum.
Which leads to the next point. One vote is not a lot of pressure, don't spill your life story just because someone put one vote on you. I will probably be the one putting out a ton of votes and yes, if I am voting for you (except for this first one) then there is probably a reason for my vote, maybe I do think you should be lynched, maybe I just want you to speak up more. Regardless, claiming instantly is not what I am looking for, that only hurts town in the long run.
So, RNG vote time to kick things off, this vote will solidify or be changed once the person named contributes a bit to the game. And we get number......6.....which is me so that's stupid since I don't vote for myself so let's try again.....4.
VOTE: MickD
Yes, I always feel that lynching day 1 is the correct answer. If we get to the very end of the day and there is absolutely 0 leads then maybe I'd consider a no lynch but agreeing on that at the beginning just lets scum coast through day 1.
This is extremely well reasoned and I don't really have much to say to it other than that. As our one full on newbie, I'm glad you've done your homework and you can feel free to suspect me or not as you will. I don't try to lead discussion but I am well aware that my high post count does tend to steer conversation so take that how you will and the best policy is always to fight me at every turn when you think something is wrong. I don't want sheep following me since I am wrong just as much as anyone else.
He copies some posts from sorian from my Batman game, a game where Sorian was.....scum. He even copies a post that was a direct response to weemad in that game.
I feel like your scum hunting technique is just to keep asking and hope someone finally says yes. If I told you I was mafia, would that make it easier on you?
So naturally, Weemad is the one to catch on:
Am i in batman mark ii? I had this exact conversation with Sorian, who...said yes, and wasn't lying. I swear you copy pasted his post.
Which Camjo responed with:
well it was a good run. i was hoping to get through the whole day coasting on recycled sorian posts from batman but it seems i've been DISCOVERED
Now to be serious: all three games I've played so far have gotten a townie lynched on D1, and usually mafia are pushing it the hardest, so you know what? I say no lynch. We never get it right, it's inherently dumb due to complete randomness, and removing one possible candidate from the suspect pool isn't worth the rest of the negatives it brings.
VOTE: No Lynch
Camjo pretended to be a scum from another game, got called out by a real scum in this game, and then responds with the remark he got discovered. This may be a long shot, but I think this was camjo's way of signaling his hidden partner status to his fellow scum, Weemad in particular.
vote: Camjo-Z
