My point was that if you want to PvP in Bloodborne regularly then you should get involved in an organized Fight Club like say the one on the Reddit sub, they are hungry for more people to play with them. Then you'll be playing PvP every night if you want without any gems. So you don't need gems.
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My point was that if you want to PvP in Bloodborne regularly then you should get involved in an organized Fight Club like say the one on the Reddit sub, they are hungry for more people to play with them. Then you'll be playing PvP every night if you want without any gems. So you don't need gems.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
sounds like to much work when I can just goto nightmare frontier and find pvp in minutes or less.
and why would I not need gems? that doesnt change my original point.
You don't like a system that's not gonna change. I was offering you a potential solution. That's all. It's actually not much work but that's your call.
EDIT: Or otherwise PvP in the BL60-80 at Nightmare Frontier or Mergo Middle. The only end game gems you'll find at that level range are on Twinks, and I think there are not many of those...
EDIT: Or otherwise PvP in the BL60-80 at Nightmare Frontier or Mergo Middle. The only end game gems you'll find at that level range are on Twinks, and I think there are not many of those...
Frostt
Member
About the gem and PvP thing... I think is more a matter of skill than gems. For example... before farming gems, I was invaded a lot by other players and didnt have gems equiped (maybe 9% Phys Att) and slaughtered many of them. Know your weapons, the range, how to evade and parry and you can beat any overleveled invader anytime. Of course, it will be better if you have 27 or 31 gems, but I will never know that since I overleveled and there are no invading players with my level 
Even Dark Souls 2 got server maintenances not much ago I think. Its pretty usual I guess, considering it has a server for matchmaking.
The Hamburglar
Banned
This game can be weird sometimes. I was stuck at vicar for a few days (hardly played though due to busy), but then I easily defeated her without a sweat. Then the next boss shadows of whatever those 3 guys was easier than normal mobs.
Orochinagis
Member
Damm, that doll is a must, maria can go to hell
Shadows is hard if you want to deal with the three at the same time
The Hamburglar
Banned
I died and randomly got taken to some village, then later on some gravity orb teleported me to the death frontier where I saw a real player running towards me, so I ran and went back to the hunters dream lol.
Orochinagis
Member
His tentacle attack damage is insane if it hits you fully xc. I think the game was in discount last month
The Hamburglar
Banned
Should I buy ludwigs holy blade or just get the ones in the Chalice assuming I'm capable of that, I only have one chalice and I'm not sure what the chalice dungeons are yet .
Orochinagis
Member
Go for the default one, have decent slots for raw damage, the ones in the chalices are more arcane or more serration damage slots
Going back to this after finishing up DS3, invading in Bloodborne is a real treat. Nice little one on one fights every time I've gone in, polite with our little bows and everything, no color-coded nightmare clusterwhoops.
I'd love to do more depth 5 random chalice dungeons, but they're more fun to co-op and I keep ringing to help but there's nobody looking for help. Shoulda stopped levelling on my chalice dungeon character.
I'd love to do more depth 5 random chalice dungeons, but they're more fun to co-op and I keep ringing to help but there's nobody looking for help. Shoulda stopped levelling on my chalice dungeon character.
The Hamburglar
Banned
Is this a bug? Killed the boss on the castle roof but no cut scene and the secret door won't reveal.
Orochinagis
Member
You need to equip his crown
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Anyone got suggestions for a new character (build, theme etc.)? I have a friend or two that are starting new characters and would like to coop but I feel the build variety is rather limited...
I've already done skill, strength, quality, arcane, bloodtinge builds, and already played a lot with the following trick weapons: Threaded Cane, Saw Spear, Chikage, Kirkhammer, Ludwig's Holy Blade, Blades of Mercy, Burial Blade, Tonitrus, Simon's Bowblade, Holy Moonlight Sword, Whirligig Saw, Rakuyo, Bloodletter. For other weapons/tools I've also used the Hunter's Pistol, Repeating Pistol, Cannon, Ludwig's Rifle (disappointing), and most Arcane tools.
I've also played a little with, but not much (either briefly 'cause I replaced it with something stronger like Ludwig or Rakuyo, or tried it and was unimpressed), Church Pick, Hunter Axe, Saw Cleaver, Logarius Wheel, Reiterpallasch, Rifle Spear, Beasthunter Saif, Stake Driver, Evelyn, Flamesprayer, Rosmarinus, Blunderbuss. If anyone can make a convincing case for giving another chance to those, I might.
I'm also considering the Beast Claws but it takes a while to get them, so I'm not sure what I'd use in the meantime.
Weapons I never tried at all (so feel free to recommend why you like them, if you do): Amygdalan Arm, Beast Cutter, Boom Hammer, Kos Parasite (do you need the ugly head for it to work? if so, fuck it), Piercing Rifle (I might have tried it once and went "WTF why does this suck so much", I have a vague recollection...), Fist of Gratia (is this worthwhile at all?), Church Cannon.
Tools I never tried at all, are they worth a minimal arcane investment? Beast Roar, Empty Phantasm Shell (seems like fire/bolt paper is better?), Choir Bell, Messenger's Gift (just for the lulz in PvP I guess).
Edit: keep in mind I don't care much about PvP or min-maxing in this game, so I likely won't want to farm for insane gems or anything like that (I never do, though).
I've already done skill, strength, quality, arcane, bloodtinge builds, and already played a lot with the following trick weapons: Threaded Cane, Saw Spear, Chikage, Kirkhammer, Ludwig's Holy Blade, Blades of Mercy, Burial Blade, Tonitrus, Simon's Bowblade, Holy Moonlight Sword, Whirligig Saw, Rakuyo, Bloodletter. For other weapons/tools I've also used the Hunter's Pistol, Repeating Pistol, Cannon, Ludwig's Rifle (disappointing), and most Arcane tools.
I've also played a little with, but not much (either briefly 'cause I replaced it with something stronger like Ludwig or Rakuyo, or tried it and was unimpressed), Church Pick, Hunter Axe, Saw Cleaver, Logarius Wheel, Reiterpallasch, Rifle Spear, Beasthunter Saif, Stake Driver, Evelyn, Flamesprayer, Rosmarinus, Blunderbuss. If anyone can make a convincing case for giving another chance to those, I might.
I'm also considering the Beast Claws but it takes a while to get them, so I'm not sure what I'd use in the meantime.
Weapons I never tried at all (so feel free to recommend why you like them, if you do): Amygdalan Arm, Beast Cutter, Boom Hammer, Kos Parasite (do you need the ugly head for it to work? if so, fuck it), Piercing Rifle (I might have tried it once and went "WTF why does this suck so much", I have a vague recollection...), Fist of Gratia (is this worthwhile at all?), Church Cannon.
Tools I never tried at all, are they worth a minimal arcane investment? Beast Roar, Empty Phantasm Shell (seems like fire/bolt paper is better?), Choir Bell, Messenger's Gift (just for the lulz in PvP I guess).
Edit: keep in mind I don't care much about PvP or min-maxing in this game, so I likely won't want to farm for insane gems or anything like that (I never do, though).
Orochinagis
Member
You can do a Boom hammer or the flamethrower run for another arcane run, boomhammer makes everything explodes with fancy fire and the flamethrowers is to troll bosses
pizza cutter is too fun and op to play, doing endless stuns and melting bosses as long as your stamina allows it.
The tools are fun but shines in late game at 50 arcane stat, roar is useful to deflect proyectiles and the shell is just for few enemies like rom and huh....mobs. Ebrietas is insane at 50 arcane stat.
Kos parasite needs the head to its moveset, the piercing rifle is a miss you can use it but there are other fun weapons to play, the fist of gratis I have no idea
pizza cutter is too fun and op to play, doing endless stuns and melting bosses as long as your stamina allows it.
The tools are fun but shines in late game at 50 arcane stat, roar is useful to deflect proyectiles and the shell is just for few enemies like rom and huh....mobs. Ebrietas is insane at 50 arcane stat.
Kos parasite needs the head to its moveset, the piercing rifle is a miss you can use it but there are other fun weapons to play, the fist of gratis I have no idea
Beast Cutter is a really fun time, especially the R2 (pancakes on end of a 2-hit combo). I still use it on my high-level dungeoning strength char, absolutely destroys beast types and the range is insane. Have you tried out the gatling gun too? It's not really viable in the long run but I think it's pretty fun to mess with (until your QS bullets run out anyway, which is all too fast).
You do need the cauliflower head for Kos parasite BTW.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Stakedriver, maybe? That's quite fun. Beast Claws with beast mode and Amy's Arm are quite different playstyles than most other weapons.
Jamesways
Member
Probably really boring giving all the choices, but I've done two playthroughs with the regular old Saw Cleaver. Even though the Ludwig's is 200 more damage, the cleaver is faster and better against beasts. I really enjoy the moveset and it's just so quick to stunlock.
NG+ has been a cakewalk compared the DLC and higher level Chalice Dungeons. I have 5 bosses left for all of them, and only 1 took more than 1 attempt. I didn't find many of them terribly difficult the first playthrough, but knowing the patterns and methods really speed things up this time. I just love the aggressive style of play this has compared to DS.
NG+ has been a cakewalk compared the DLC and higher level Chalice Dungeons. I have 5 bosses left for all of them, and only 1 took more than 1 attempt. I didn't find many of them terribly difficult the first playthrough, but knowing the patterns and methods really speed things up this time. I just love the aggressive style of play this has compared to DS.
Orochinagis
Member
Souls exhaustion maybe , the dlc is pretty linear and confusing if you arent following the lore.
The first (and the third) boss makes the DLC worth it
Maybe...I've not played a souls game in a while. I did up to the third boss, who was absolutely incredible. Just after that I lost interest.
Orochinagis
Member
Last area is kinda bland and oppresing, the boss is hard but I am not sure but it doesnt impact me like previous bosses, even failure experiments was great compared to the next area boss.
Doing Chalice Dungeons and fucking hell the Loran Darkbeast is a mess. The camera was the bigger enemy in that battle imo.
Also what version of Burial Blade is best gem slot wise? Thinking of building one up but don't want to waste shards and chunks on what could be the wrong version.
It's expected to die a few times to regular enemies as you learn their patterns and the best ways to counter them. And the game autosaves after doing pretty much anything, you'll see a symbol in the top right corner of the screen. Just make sure you exit the game before turning it off otherwise you might lose a little progress.
Also what version of Burial Blade is best gem slot wise? Thinking of building one up but don't want to waste shards and chunks on what could be the wrong version.
It's expected to die a few times to regular enemies as you learn their patterns and the best ways to counter them. And the game autosaves after doing pretty much anything, you'll see a symbol in the top right corner of the screen. Just make sure you exit the game before turning it off otherwise you might lose a little progress.
Yeah, the game is tough, but you'll get used to it's rhythm pretty quick if you stick to it, and once it clicks, it's really good.
The game saves basically every few seconds.
Yep that's normal for a new player, you will eventually "get it" and start breezing through those areas without effort.
As for saving, the game is always saving, if you just turn it off and continue days later you will start from about the same place you were at with enemies you killed still being dead.
If you want the root Chalice you can buy the sinister one from the bath messengers in Layer 3. With it you can also unlock the option to search and use glyphs for root chalices.
About Burial Blade, the uncanny one is the best.
Was able to defeat it eventually but I'll keep that in mind for future characters. And thanks, I'll keep an eye out for an Uncanny glyph then.
Orochinagis
Member
Pretty normal, the main town área is like the tutorial to get used in the game mechanics. Dont be afraid to fight back if you got hit instead of healing.
There are no repercutions on dying outside losing your money
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Started a new playthrough yesterday (4th one) and I just beat Vicar Amelia. I noticed you can listen to her whole prayer if you walk into the church without going in enough to activate the cutscene. I think you can hear the prayer while fighting her but not as clearly.
The game is still fun as ever and I'm just breezing through enemies, areas, and bosses. Knowing exactly where to go and what to do feel good. One more solid play session and I should be able to reach the Nightmare areas.
The game is still fun as ever and I'm just breezing through enemies, areas, and bosses. Knowing exactly where to go and what to do feel good. One more solid play session and I should be able to reach the Nightmare areas.
The Hamburglar
Banned
as a noob who has only just got this game recently; all I can say the only bad thing about this game is that it is almost too good.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
"Almost"...?
Orochinagis
Member
Yeah, can wait to see his reaction after Amelia
I mentioned it many times but Saw Cleaver is basically one of the main reasons why Bloodborne is my favorite.
It's one of the strongest weapons. It's fast and very versatile and has the best transformed attack.
The icing on the cake is that it's so beautiful. I love it so much that I use it with all my characters as my secondary weapon if not my main.
Saw Cleaver is a work of art. Saw Cleaver is life.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I played with the saw spear a lot. It's too similar to the saw cleaver for me to give a shit about the saw cleaver anymore, tbh. I get that it's the "iconic" Bloodborne weapon but it does very little for me...
The Hamburglar
Banned
i've avoided guides unless I got lost then I used a map only. but the only zones I can go to now are nightmare menis and the hunters nightmare.
Amelia was such a bitch but after a few days rest I found her easy, I think I might have 'got good to an extent.
Orochinagis
Member
I played with the saw spear a lot. It's too similar to the saw cleaver for me to give a shit about the saw cleaver anymore, tbh. I get that it's the "iconic" Bloodborne weapon but it does very little for me...
Saw spear have a good serration bonus but Saw cleaver is better due its passive against beast, put some pepper and fire and you got into Yharman's annual barbecue
I played with the saw spear a lot. It's too similar to the saw cleaver for me to give a shit about the saw cleaver anymore, tbh. I get that it's the "iconic" Bloodborne weapon but it does very little for me...
TBH I don't really like the Saw Spear. It's perhaps because of the moveset, the fact that it's weaker and doesn't look as pretty.
Shadowman16
Member
I agree. I've gotten back to the DLC tonight and have managed to beat the first three bosses in the DLC. The second boss was fairly straight forward, but the first and third took me a couple of tries each to beat due to how hard they hit! I probably had the most problems with the first boss though, its quite large and intimidating and I had issues dodging its attacks to begin with. Somehow I managed to beat its second phase on my first try...
The third boss was such a rush, I was having much luck parrying (since you get punished hard for screwing up) so I just evaded and attacked where possible. And then they powered up, twice... I swear most of my deaths (against bosses) in this game is either because I panic or I just don't know what is coming so I end up eating attacks. Once I have the general pattern of a boss down I fare far better.
Still, I've never played any of the Dark Souls games so I was wondering which one I should start with? I'll most likely go with the first game, but I've heard bad things against the performance (frame rate) on that game (and I only have consoles so I can't play the PC version at this time). Since I have no problems with the frame rate in BB, would I be ok with DS on the PS3 do you think?
Orochinagis
Member
Play DS1 and DS3, DS2 is a good game but storywise DS3 kinda omited or ignored DS2, you need to play DS1 for the main lore and there are some nods and recurring NPCs in DS3
If you want to play DS2 play the Scholar of the first Sin version, it contains all the DLC , visual upgrades adn 60fps.
The PC version have a patch (praise Durante) that makes it playable and visual upgrades in all game zones.
Shadowman16
Member
Thanks for the info. I'm aware of the better PC version of DS but I have no PC capable of playing it, and won't for quite a while. So I'm wondering in that case if its better to just play it on consoles now rather than wait? As I really do have the hunger to play more of the series.