You should have your Cane closer to +9 and good gems in that area since the game drops bunch of chunks at that point of the game. Also why do you try to kill the slugs? They are really harmless.
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You should have your Cane closer to +9 and good gems in that area since the game drops bunch of chunks at that point of the game. Also why do you try to kill the slugs? They are really harmless.
EL CUCO
Member
I found the cane at +6 incredibly weak towards the tougher parts of the game. I stopped upgrading it at that point
Infinite_Daremo
Member
I just killed the Beggar NPC. Started fighting his transformation with Blades of Mercy, poison proc'd in 4 hits. Took 1/3 of his life. I had no idea of his weakness either. I just kited him as he slowly died.
Oppo
Member
I like the cane but that's why it's only +6 now, I've been putting mats towards the Blade of Mercy. I think I am only 3 away from an upgrade to +9 so maybe I'll try farming that. for red the last boss I killed was
the cosmic space abortion thing.
I've also somehow managed to miss seemingly every quest line somehow. sigh
Joke post?
How is this a new character, Lvl 78, chikage +10 and evelyn +9, with 40 bloodtinge. With those stats, yes, she would be very easy.
Arjen
Member
lol, seriously. Overleveled, exploting every weakness known for that boss.
"This boss is so easy" ugh.
Well it is not my first character so it is new character? The recommended level to that fight is around 70 and you can easily get Blood Rock before that fight. Sure if everyone who has trouble with her is seriously under leveled it is hard but every boss hard if you are underleveled.
Oh it is supposed to be played with bad weapons, bad stats and no strategy at all? Sorry. Seriously though why wouldn't you shoot her in the head or use weapons that have good reach?
It's not your first character so you know her attacks and moves. It's kind of different.
Also, I think she may be weak to blood damage? My Chikage in Blood mode totally decimates her. But that's just my assuption.
Anyways, most people won't go their first time with perfect stat leveling and full upgraded weapons because they don't even know that unless they keep following guides/forums. It is a hard boss coming blind. My first time with her with a Quality build took me a good couple of tries. With my new BT character, around a min at most.
Well even the first time I managed to beat her second try with LHB build that had stats all over the place. Haven't really had any practice with that boss. Sure if she is weak to blood damage then it was easier for me now. Also getting into that fight before getting to
Mensis
Arjen
Member
How did you do on your first try against that boss? Blind, before you knew what was the best way to tackle it? That's a good indication if it's hard or not.
KittenMaster
Member
Finally got around to beating D
W
(SL140). It easn't easy but
efiled
atchdog
I eventually figured out it gets destroyed by ludwigs r2 attack and jump r2
Went blind, died once or twice had Cannon and LHB.
edit. Almost all bosses are weak to headshots so you should know to shoot at the head if you can lock on to them at that point since she is late game boss.
edit2. Just checked the what the average level against her is and it seems to be 75. Yeah I was super overleveled with 78 lol.
Most people saying she's hard are facing her on their first character which probably don't have the "perfect" stat allocation and/or fully upgraded build weapons. But most importantly, they don't know the boss strategy to easy kill it.
Same as the 1st time I did the later chalice bosses, they were very hard, but on my 2nd time, they were relatively easy. Should I be questioning when people whom are saying they are hard.
Arjen
Member
Well, I guess your just an amazing player then and everyone just sucks.
Struggling with this myself actually, might give ludwigs a go later
I am not really saying that either. I am just asking what is the problem in that fight since to me it has been easy with two very different builds. Had problems against other bosses that other people say are really easy and I don't get angry at them.
Like most bosses, you just have to figure out it's attack pattern. First time beating it, I did the dodge toward the side his head attack starts from, 1-2 hit and repeat. On the second time, I found it easy to do the bait his attack, wait for his head to turn back, 1 hit his head and repeat strategy.
She much more easy with builds that use a BONE MARROW + upgraded CANNON or EVELYN. Just stand back shoot, visceral and profit. Most people don't have those builds on their first play through. Either you are lucky with your builds or you are well aware that that those builds are powerful.
Windom Earle
Member
Got my first triple kill in PvP, yeeees:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NvJ7Jwjl5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NvJ7Jwjl5g
Arjen
Member
I'm not angry. Your post just came off as a bit condescending that's all. But that might be my fault as well.
I've beaten it in other chalices,I think it's just having halved health and being too agressive in the defiled version that's my downfall, gotta take it slower and bait the attacks it seems
I am not really questoning people. Just asking what is the problem since I don't see the problem myself even with my first character. Also this new build is way different than what I am used to and still getting accustomed to it. I really didn't meant to be hostile and "lol casul scrubs" attitude at all. Just wanted to know what makes her hard.
Sorry wasn't the intent. Just curious what makes her so hard to people.
Nice! Invaders don't get frenzy? Didn't know. Might try to be asshole next time lol.
edit.
First playthrough I decided to use cannon since I sucked in parrying. Wasn't going for Cannon build at all first. This playthrough I decided to go with Bloodtinge build and looked up what weapons have best scaling for it. Didn't know it would make these big monsters a cakewalk.
Noisepurge
Member
yeah i've gotten invaded several times and the invaders often just run towards monsters and frenzy locations just to get an advantage
frenzy should occur on invaders too atleast, makes it impossible to fight them around the brain monsters for example.
Noisepurge
Member
well, that is the final location in the game, so save that good stuff for last
make sure you've cleaned up all optional content.well, that is the final location in the game, so save that good stuff for last
Yeah, I guess I should check and see if there's anything I missed (still pissed E
ileen
Just use any spare messengers or how is called to gain insight?
Noisepurge
Member
no, just warp back into town and back to the Dream and she should be alive.
Windom Earle
Member
yeah i've gotten invaded several times and the invaders often just run towards monsters and frenzy locations just to get an advantage
frenzy should occur on invaders too atleast, makes it impossible to fight them around the brain monsters for example.
Keep in mind that invaders have pretty low hp, I think giving them frenzy would be a bit much. That said, NOM is not a friendly area to be invaded in.
The host can always go to a safe area, but of course the invader could be a dick and just wait somewhere else. I am trying to be a "nice" invader most of the time, but I will use the "approval" gesture because it is just too awesome.
Thank you
KittenMaster
Member
*looks up L
S
*
*is only halfway through NG++*
I think my heart is broken...
iving
tring
*is only halfway through NG++*
I think my heart is broken...
Noisepurge
Member
yeah, that is also one of the places where most invasions happened.
I tend to use the Messengers Gift and try to suprise people near elevators or something
sneak kills are the best.And if not, yeah, always do a curtsy or other gesture before firing a cannonball at them
Windom Earle
Member
yeah, that is also one of the places where most invasions happened.
I tend to use the Messengers Gift and try to suprise people near elevators or something
And if not, yeah, always do a curtsy or other gesture before firing a cannonball at them
Messenger's Gift is awesome and I still get surprised by it sometimes, even though I know about it. Can't use it though, my arcane is below 10. Dark Souls 2 has better trolling items and gestures though.
Also the cannon is stupid, but I think I should keep my mouth shut as an Evelyn user. XD
Question about the end of the game-
I should of copied the save to a USB before i did that but obviously i didn't know.
pretty fast. I'm level 83 though so i don't think i'll have too much trouble.
Do the choices Ghernam gives you have a different outcome? I chose to refuse
I should of copied the save to a USB before i did that but obviously i didn't know.
He's
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
The spoiler tags in this thread are hilarious. I don't get it. How is it spoilerish telling people that there is a boss named <insert boss name here>? There story in this game is so insignificant, I just find it funny.
"Oh my god you spoiled that there is a boss named Bloodletting Beast! Game ruined".
I mean if there were a thread for a very story heavy game like uncharted or mass effect then yes.
Oh well whatever.
Just curious, what is the best (or most frustrating) example of when the game cheeses you? For me it would be when I was taking on 3 hunters and I was trying to run from them and I got to a switch that I needed to flip. I tried to flip it but someone left a message right next to it and I accidently activated that and got totally thrashed. Was not happy.
"Oh my god you spoiled that there is a boss named Bloodletting Beast! Game ruined".
I mean if there were a thread for a very story heavy game like uncharted or mass effect then yes.
Oh well whatever.
Just curious, what is the best (or most frustrating) example of when the game cheeses you? For me it would be when I was taking on 3 hunters and I was trying to run from them and I got to a switch that I needed to flip. I tried to flip it but someone left a message right next to it and I accidently activated that and got totally thrashed. Was not happy.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Welp there's bound to be new players asking for advice and
Gehrman
super-famicom
Member
What kind of gems are you using with the cane? They can make a huge difference.
so my second character (after a straight up str build) is now on 25 for skill - a few points into VIT and I'm rocking the cane. I am wondering whether to go
- full skill
- skill + arcane
- skill + bt
Are these all viable builds for mainly PVE and coop? What do you guys think is the most fun?
- full skill
- skill + arcane
- skill + bt
Are these all viable builds for mainly PVE and coop? What do you guys think is the most fun?
Oh wow. I think i might just look them up. Don't really feel like playing through the game again so soon after i beat it.
It looks like i missed alot of side areas. I still don't know what area leads you to open that gate that's right outside the clinic in Yharnam? It's at the beginning of the game. And that switch still doesn't work for the gate further up from there.
I was watching a stream and I saw
a snow area.
The cane is perfectly viable at the end game. Its strengths and weaknesses never change throughout. It has great range and is the best for crowd control. It lacks stagger potential though which can make it harder to fight larger enemies. As with any of the weapons, some things are easier with it, some things harder.
That locked area outside the clinic andthe snow area are related. You would have also missed about 6-7 awesome new boss battles if you ignore the chalice dungeons.
I think I'm slowly coming to a hard stop with this game, folks. Went in on my second player last night, did a chalice dungeon or two and was like "meh" the entire time. I wanted to create a third character and try arcane but I feel like it would just be a severely under-powered melee character through most of the game. Basically Micolash.
The cane is amazing later on when it gets A dex scaling. I love the whip mode.
I tried exploring everything I could. Don't know how I could of missed that. What about the other gate up ahead? It's a shortcut.
I did a couple of chalice dungeons but I stopped since it was getting sort of boring and I wanted to focus on the main game. I stopped after I got that bone armor.
I use a +10 cane and I agree especially when you have some good gems.