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Bloodborne |OT++++| Now with Trusty Patches
- Thread starter Robot Pants
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Not gonna lie, Watchdog is giving me some grief. Here's a video of what keeps getting me, I feel like I sidestep out of this attack but I guess I underestimate the range. Fight will be going good, then he does that out of no where and I get one shotted. That attack does so much more damage than anything else too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDsKWNrhEp4
I had to plug my controller in for this fight so far. Felt like it was too tight of a fight to deal with controller latency. It shows how good the combat is in this game though, if this was Dark Souls II I would have quit a long time ago out of frustration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDsKWNrhEp4
I had to plug my controller in for this fight so far. Felt like it was too tight of a fight to deal with controller latency. It shows how good the combat is in this game though, if this was Dark Souls II I would have quit a long time ago out of frustration.
Foxhound286
Member
I've been having a bit of trouble with The One Reborn. Any advice on how to deal with him?
Take out the casters immediately.
I usually wait until he's done flailing and do a drop attack from the balcony then work his body a bit until he spews all over the floor then I run back up and repeat. There's less cheesy ways I'm sure.
Banana Aeon
Member
Read his tells, and be aggressive. It's gonna hit you, but once you stun it once, the fight is pretty much over.
Bolt paper and beast blood pallets make short work of it.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Not true. If you unlock the short ritual chalice you can join any game of anyone who summons. You just have to get lucky and hope you get summoned for the dungeon or fight you want.
If you are summoned to a dungeon you have not unlocked that dungeon will automatically unlock. That's what happened to me.
I am doing it for the sole purpose of skipping the defiled chalice. I don't care what anyone thinks I will do everything in my power to avoid that bundle of misery.
Apparently I have been told that it is a WoW or earlier MMO usage. Which to me doesn't make it any better since MMO's don't have actual one shots, action games do. So people either took the action term, misused it, or took the MMO term, misused it.
The parrying convo is an interesting one. One I didn't even think to bring up yet. I unfortunately have to run but there are a number of things to breakdown. First, is whether BB is polling at 30 or 60. My gut is 30. Second, whether there is any outside lag, TVs, controller, etc.. that is affecting the parry success or causing trades. Third, whether the player is just slow at them. If you have ever tried doing perfect frame RG in DMC, you know that it isn't just about reacting. It's part predicting and part reacting on early frame, like very early frames.
I would like to test this out more. I have a low lag TV but play wireless. The only annoyance is that some attacks don't seem to be parryable, which is time wasted. I'll probably elaborate further but my initial thought reading this is that the system is not unfair. Even if there is a bit of unfairness, it is minimal.
I've tried using the Short Ritual Chalice thing several times, let it search and search and search for 20 or 30 minutes at a time, couldn't find anyone because nobody is running around in the dungeons with their Beckoning bells on. The only time that is happening is when they absolutely know there is going to be a person in the one they are in, as in, they've invited a friend to it. It's basically a useless feature to me.
On the flip side, I've tried running around in dungeons I've had open to public with my Beckoning bell on and I get nobody. I don't think many people are using the Short Ritual Chalice much either.
Shin Kojima
Banned
So why do it at all?
Foxhound286
Member
She's one of the easiest bosses in the entire game for sure. Witches of Hemwick gave me a bigger scare.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Because I want to beat the Ptumenian Queen.
I recognize you as the dude who called people cheaters who used the backup save to USB to see all three endings in one playthrough. I seriously doubt I will care what you think.
Defiled Chalice isn't that bad and you can coop through the bosses to make it easier.
If you still need help I can help. I don't have the short root chalice IIRC so I have to beat the Keeper before I can assist but shouldn't take too long.
Windom Earle
Member
I think the Chikage and Evelyn don't do enough damage you guys...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8d-qB7eQ7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8d-qB7eQ7w
I cornered myself like an idiot and should have died there
I'm past it now thanks.
I'm on Worm head blood-letting beast and though I'm not struggling with him too bad, getting him to about 1/4 health, I totally agree with the sentiment that this encounter is badly designed. I don't think FROM totally thought through putting him in the cave, I'm fighting the controls more often than him.
KittenMaster
Member
FINALLY. Shortroot chalice. I had to get to level 61 (to raise discovery) and farm a few chunks to +7 my Tonitrus, but it's finally done.
Just curious, but is there anyway you can post your build? I'm working on a bloodtinge build and need some ideas.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
So far with using the short ritual chalice I've been summoned to weird dungeons. All have been Ihyll Pthumeru but with the sinister or rotted designation. None of the basic ones. Lol
Shin Kojima
Banned
You already stated you don't care what anyone thinks. I want to know what you think.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Arcane raises your discovery. Focus on the stats test matter for your build.
Windom Earle
Member
I am using a hybrid of 25Skill and 50BT. If you wanna go pure BT, put less in Skill, but it will not make PvE easy and you will be very reliant on the buff.
Arcane and Strength as low as possible. Also keep in mind that Vit is more important than stamina in this game.
edit: This is a Chikage only build, does not apply to Reiterpallasch.
You can safely ignore it. There are runes that increase discovery if you need it. But it's really not an important stat.
KittenMaster
Member
No, I only did it because I'm an arcane build and didn't have the proper runes yet.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I finally joined a game where someone was going through the Pthumeru Ihyll and now I have that dungeon unlocked!
Screw you Defiled Chalice!
Screw you Defiled Chalice!
Imp the Dimp
Member
Man I feel like I made a mistake going Cruel Fate origin. Is there any use for the Arcane stat? Else I'll just restart. Haven't played that much anyways. If I wanna go for a max/min build, which origin would be the best?
edit: Maybe Cruel Fate ain't that bad with Burial Blade?
edit2: Some people say that 15 arcane is really good for some spell or something. If 15 arcane was actually recommended, Cruel Fate would be the best min/max origin, right?
edit: Maybe Cruel Fate ain't that bad with Burial Blade?
edit2: Some people say that 15 arcane is really good for some spell or something. If 15 arcane was actually recommended, Cruel Fate would be the best min/max origin, right?
KittenMaster
Member
Burial Blade is butt at doing arcane damage and it comes far too late to be a useful weapon.
15 arcane just lets you use some utility hunter tools that don't do damage. No min-maxing involved there.
I do recommend restarting, as Arcane builds are better suited for players that have already completed the game and understand how to use the stat.
Arcane is for spells and elemental weapons. You can turn every weapon to elemental weapon with gems but doing that will remove(?) physical damage scaling. 15 Arcane is also good since you get a decent spell to use and some weapons have Arcane requirements. Best start for min/max is Waste of Skin like Deprived in Souls games. Unless you know what you are going for.
What do you suggest then? 50 vit, 25-30 end?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Odd, I got the Pthumeru Ihyll and the first boss was bloodletting beast. I thought it was supposed to be the Pthumeru descendant.
BaronLundi
Member
I'm doing a bloodtinge build and going for this at lvl 100:
Vit 47
End 20
Strength 11 (either that or 1 point too much in arcane)
Skill 25
Bloodting 40
Arcane 7
Can't reach 50 blood at lvl100 without sacrificing too much Vit (or skill).
Foxhound286
Member
Well, I just beat Darkbeast Paarl. What a punk. I expected more from it after I first saw it, only for it to be my easiest boss so far. It's one of two bosses I beat on my first try, with the other being Cleric Beast.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
The game.
Funny.
dymn yo. great job.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Thanks
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's never explicitly stated what breaks it. It's scripted to happen after Rom.
Hank Scorpio
Member
I thought that was bad until he showed up in layer 3 of the Pthumeru Ihyll Root depth 5 dungeon that I had given Fetid, Rotted, and Cursed offerings. So my health is cut like in the Defiled Chalice to about 50%. 2 Hits and I'm dead.
I had doggie in previous layer but everything I learned about him in my Defiled Chalice dungeon helped me clear him in 2 gos.
Once I get this character i'm working on to 25 skill, I want to make another copy of the save file that way I can get this character to 50 skill, and the one I copy to 50 bloodtinge / 25 skill. Is this possible? How would I go about making a copy of a save file?
I may stop at 20 endurance too, though i'm aiming for 120 instead of 100.
I may stop at 20 endurance too, though i'm aiming for 120 instead of 100.
Yup, fuck this thing. I'm having a harder time with this than I did with the Defiled dungeon and the Ebrietas rematch. The narrow cave, stupid camera and high lock-on point make this a real bitch. And that fuck that worm thing once it pops out.
Arjen
Member
So this just happened. fell through the floor.
https://youtu.be/U4TcwTz6KR4
https://youtu.be/U4TcwTz6KR4
Melchiah
Member
Good writeup, but I have to say I disagree with that, as these gems were certainly worthwhile for me.
Shin Kojima
Banned
Wow. I fell through the floor twice in the game but never during a boss battle.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Well crap, I make it through two layers of the Ihyll Pthumerun depth 5 dungeon and get to a boss on layer three and it's not the damn queen.
I guess I'll have to keep searching and hope to find the one with the queen.
I guess I'll have to keep searching and hope to find the one with the queen.
You also pick up a +15% overall attack gem in the Nightmare of Mensis.
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On another note, after 4 characters I finally decided to start a build (until now they were all with very low attack stat and I only increased vitality/stamina when I level up).
I decided to start with a bloodtinge build with Chikage and Evelyn as my main weapons.
My bloodtinge stat is currently at 27 but I noticed that reached a diminishing return 1 or 2 levels ago.
Is it worth it to increase skill instead from now on or do I continue to go with bloodtinge?
Here are my stats: lv68 (NG+4):
Vit = 40
End = 19
Str = 11
Skl = 14
Btg = 27
Arc = 7