There's two areas isn't there? Nightmare Frontier and Nightmare of Mensis (The latter of which has two bell maidens).
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KittenMaster
Member
To be fair I think they added that because they figured out that people were simply leaving their network connection turned off to avoid invasions.
I'm glad the Play Offline option exists simply for times when my internet is acting up (Since the game kicks you out right away if the connection drops out in online mode). But playing offline just doesn't feel the same without all the notes and specters lying around.
I still don't know how I would have figured out the Mother Brain rune trick if I had been playing offline.
I still don't know how I would have figured out the Mother Brain rune trick if I had been playing offline.
RepairmanJack
Member
The only time I'm ever really inticed to use the offline mode(haven't yet, but thought about it) is the CD's. Only because there's no added benefit of notes or bloodstains and the phantoms in some of the smaller quarters can be scary as fuck if you think it's a glimpse of an enemy.
Dhruv_hanom
Member
You'll most likely need help and have a better experience cooping the higher level dungeons. I've been one shotted by a few hunters at depth 5 all FRC dungeons so it helps to have a buddy around
Melchiah
Member
Just beat Logarius and Alfred on NG+. The former took me three tries, and is definitely one of the most intense battles in the main game. I had to get those extra five bullets before the battle, as I depleted the supply on the second try. The first try ended abruptly, when I fell to an embarassing death.
I wanted to confront Alfred this time, but the dialogue was more interesting than the fight itself. It was "oh shit" moment, when I learned he heals himself, and I didn't have Numbing Mist equipped. Luckily, he only did it once.
Video captures of both:
Logarius - https://youtu.be/XpMRJ48fvR0
Alfred - https://youtu.be/rm_Wkw6OzJ4
Dialogue spoilers in the latter.
I wanted to confront Alfred this time, but the dialogue was more interesting than the fight itself. It was "oh shit" moment, when I learned he heals himself, and I didn't have Numbing Mist equipped. Luckily, he only did it once.
Video captures of both:
Logarius - https://youtu.be/XpMRJ48fvR0
Alfred - https://youtu.be/rm_Wkw6OzJ4
Dialogue spoilers in the latter.
Psychoward
Banned
Asked before but nobody responded, anyone wanna help out with defiled chalice amygdala? PSN ID is Psychoward23
Dhruv_hanom
Member
Sure, gimme 20mins and then some to clear the first two bosses.
Sent you an FR. What's the dungeon glyph?
Psychoward
Banned
sorry was busy, one sec.
kr61283x
just message me whenever you're ready, I'm in no rush
Dhruv_hanom
Member
Ahh sorry, i'm done for the day. I"ll reach amyg tomorrow and we'll defeat it together :-D
Psychoward
Banned
sounds good, i still need to finish my game with an alt to get the plat anyway
I wonder how the DLC is going to handle where it puts its content? Since Bloodborne
, do you think you'll have to beat the game over again or get to a certain point in the story for the DLC to activate? I never played any of the DS DLC so I'm not sure how it was handled there.
forces you to start the game over after finishing it
This is something I've been curious about as well. They've been referring to it as an expansion right? Perhaps it'll be separate and you just import your character into it as long as they're above a certain level? Likewise I'm not sure how it was handled in DS and DS2.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
I've had this exact thought and I haven't beaten the game on NG+ in case this happens. I don't really want to create a new character since I like the one I have now.
Melchiah
Member
That's why I have two save files prepared, set right before the end. Other at level 100, another at 195.
Well Dark Souls 1 and 2 had certain points where you could access to the DLC. You could access to DS1 DLC around the halfway through the game and in DS2 you could access DLCs before halfway through the game. So I would assume it would be about the same here.
I really doubt that it would be separate from the main game. Probably you will get access to it after certain point (most likely after
).
I really doubt that it would be separate from the main game. Probably you will get access to it after certain point (most likely after
Rom since the world doesn't change after that
WhiskerFrisker
Member
I was thinking more like in Yahar'gul in the way we access the Nightmare of Mensis.
Psychoward
Banned
Is the cannon pretty much useless in PvE outside of boss fights? With the amount of bullets it eats up I can't imagine it being too effective
Something like that probably.
It is rather useless against regular enemies eventhough you can get few enemies with a single shot but even then you can get 3 or 4 shots out of it depeding on your runes. Much better weapon against bosses and maybe against some CD enemies in the lower Chalices.
JadedWriter
Member
Finally got started on the Defiled dungeon, it's a bit different. I had to remake Lower Pthumeru so I could get to the second layer so I could grab the Arcane Haze Extractor and just used some older chalice material to make the arcane haze. I hate the witches that hurl fire at you, still made it to the Keeper of the Old Lords and pretty much tore through him.
Keeper of the Old Lords
Keeper of the Old Lords
Orochinagis
Member
Pretty much yes, you can use it three or four times before it depletes
You can go to central phumery layer 2 and farm the centipedes from arcane hazes
JadedWriter
Member
This is true, I'm pretty sure I can tear right through them too at level 139.
Melchiah
Member
I see you tried to corner-fuck her as well. It's a good strategy.
Just cleared Rotted Ihyll Root chalice. Unfortunately, I didn't get the Ring of Betrothal from there.
Boss fights:
Undead Giant
Keeper of the Old Lords
Bloodletting Beast
I had been stuck with the first boss for quite a while, but finally managed to beat him by using Evelyn and Bone Marrow Ash in the second stage, where he used to bound me hard. Thanks JadedWriter for suggesting the method. Keeper was very easy after the Defiled version. I beat her and BLB on the first try, but the latter nearly became the death of me.
Burgess_101
Member
Endgame spoilers:
I was wondering in regards to the last two fights against Gerhmann and the moon is it possible after defeating them to coop in someone elses game? My brother and I have played it coop the whole way through so it would suck if these last bosses made it so we couldn't help eachother out.
Dhruv_hanom
Member
Hey! I think you need to open up the dungeon since the game can't find a dungeon with the given glyph
edit: read the question wrong.
After you defeat the final bosses you'll be immediately put in ng+ it's possible to coop with someone in ng even if you're in ng+
RepairmanJack
Member
Fuck E
or whatever the fuck her name is.
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JadedWriter
Member
Glad I could help.I see you tried to corner-fuck her as well. It's a good strategy.
Just cleared Rotted Ihyll Root chalice. Unfortunately, I didn't get the Ring of Betrothal from there.
Boss fights:
Undead Giant
Keeper of the Old Lords
Bloodletting Beast
I had been stuck with the first boss for quite a while, but finally managed to beat him by using Evelyn and Bone Marrow Ash in the second stage, where he used to bound me hard. Thanks JadedWriter for suggesting the method. Keeper was very easy after the Defiled version. I beat her and BLB on the first try, but the latter nearly became the death of me.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Using the terrain and environment to one's advantage is a smart tactic. Since invaders are at a disadvantage of 2v1 (sometimes 3v1) and lowered HP, I don't blame them for doing that. I don't generally do that 'cause I get impatient waiting for the players to catch up with me, but I don't begrudge invaders playing smart.
I only have a problem with invaders who are twinks, e.g. who stay at a low level but keep OP gear around that will 1 or 2hko hosts. They're abusing the system. But using the environment? Who cares, it's just another enemy added to the fray, makes things more exciting.
*shrugs* Gank them at any time if they annoy you so much. Invaders expect it and it's fair game.
Well, there are plenty of players out there who would prefer this game got compromised by adding more checkpoints or having difficulty modes, but I for one am indeed glad that From won't budge on this. Although they kind of did in Bloodborne by blocking invasions unless the host uses coop in all but two levels. Sigh.
Psychoward
Banned
You can't help against the last bosses though unless you have
activated the fight with Gehrman
Burgess_101
Member
There is no way for me to have my brother help me in my game I guess when we do his. Pretty stupid really that we can do all bosses but one in my game.
JadedWriter
Member
Just beat the Defiled Watchdog on my first try, didn't expect it to happen, but it did. I've fought the vanilla version a few times, but I was shocked at how well I did, it's a patience battle and doing it with the cane makes it easier because you can attack his face from a safe distance.
Defiled Watchdog
Defiled Watchdog
Dhruv_hanom
Member
Still says i can find the dungeon. Wanna join mine instead?
The glyph is b4bi2s3n i've completed the dungeon so i'll be able to help at each level.
We'll power through the first two bosses and then take on amy
You could import your save file to external harddrive/ usb stick and after you beat the boss just load it and help the other one.
Nice! The fight is just about patience like all other bosses in Defiled Chalice but yeah. Good job. Took me bunch of tries to get the moves down and I had to get really close since I used LHB. Cane seems to be super good for that fight.
JadedWriter
Member
I've only ever used the cane on the flamehound, it's a great weapon for it. You're not really trying to combo it so speed isn't a problem and when it's doing the vomit thing just switch it to cane form for some quick strikes. It was a fun but tense battle.
I really love that fight. One of my favorites in the game.
Which weapon do you guys think I should upgrade to the max, Ludwig or Burial Blade? I adore Ludwig for the amount of damage it does, and it's pretty much replaced the cane as my go-to weapon for the sheer amount of damage it does. Although I'm now considering Burial for the good amount of damage and insane range/crowd control potential it has.
I still can't believe the lack of materials in this game to max out a weapon, especially coming from DS's. You can only really max out 2 weapons on a single playthrough (and that's going the extra mile for another rock), which is nuts to me.
I still can't believe the lack of materials in this game to max out a weapon, especially coming from DS's. You can only really max out 2 weapons on a single playthrough (and that's going the extra mile for another rock), which is nuts to me.
JadedWriter
Member
Yeah it's a good one. I was expecting to get stuck on it and hate it, but I just took it at a relaxed pace and it just happened. It's up there with Vicar Amelia as one of my favorites, Logarius too.
Dhruv_hanom
Member
patience is key for that fight
You can get three rocks guaranteed from the dungeons. Upgrade ludwig, its very versatile
Well there is only 26 weapons in the game where as DS has around 100 weapons and bunch of armor to upgrade and you get 3 slabs in the game. It has always been very minimal what you can max from the equipment avaible.
As for the LHB vs Burial Blade I would go with Burial Blade since it is more interesting weapon. Also if you have more skill oriented build Burial Blade is better than LHB.
Burgess_101
Member
Might have to try that then its not optimal but it'll do, cheers.
TheCongressman1
Member
Does anyone have an explanation of how the dungeons work? I don't really understand which chalices do what. One type does random placements, the others don't? Idk, it's confusing me.
Also, does it matter which alter I place them on? Does that effect anything?
Also, does it matter which alter I place them on? Does that effect anything?
KittenMaster
Member
Standard = needed to gain new chalices
Root = randomized chalices, optional
Root = randomized chalices, optional
Doomshroom
Member
So im about lvl 130 on my arcane build atm. I got 50 in arcane, vitality and endurance should i just stop lvling now?
Dhruv_hanom
Member
You're in the goldilocks zone for PvP
Burgess_101
Member
Why would you have to import anything?
Orochinagis
Member
You can still invest in Vit and Endurance, you hit the cap in Arcane so it would be useless to invest more points.
The DLC would probably be lamp location to a new area, still I usually take my main and wait for the DLC before jumping to NG+ since the DLC scales according to the current difficulty in the vanilla game.