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Of course.
Orochinagis
Member
I could do with some help for Micolash the boss with the bird cage on his head.
I'm standing in front of his area and no one is answering my bell-call for help.
You still there?
anonymous_abc
Member
Tragic!
I guess the other tip is there's 2 transformations for that boss. When one of them gets under a health threshold, they all transform (snakes grow out of them). Then individuals transformation when they get super low *or* there's one left, that's when they start summoning those snakes. So you could try spreading damage around a bit in phase 1 to put off the first transformation, then once you trigger it you should focus-fire rush them down one by one.
That stone lets you go to an optional area. I think it's a cool area with a cool boss and it has a very good farming area. So if you want a change of scenery that's a fine way to go.
natethegreat409
Member
I got so lucky my first playthrough and somehow one shot the Shadows. My second playthrough, I ended up summoning help. Dudes are so annoying at times.
I figured something was up with how low that life bar was and started to summon, so following your tips I will not focus on one but on all till they convert then I go to town on them.
Nice.
Alright, I had to research and oh my god thats very cool what happens lol, gotta go there after this shadows are done.
Congrats man!!
reelbigtink
Member
I posted a video recently of me taking on the Shadows. It might not help but the strategy I used has worked pretty consistently for me.
https://youtu.be/0iqQ7u0JgUQ
Thats damn good, you didnt let him do what he was going and kill him instead, thats why I got killed, he started to summon.
The Right Deal
Banned
This was the first Souls game Ive completed, I put about 10 hours into Dark Souls and wasnt really feeling it. Bloodborne was on sale a few weeks ago and I decided to give it a go. It took me until Gascoigne to fall in love. The transforming weapons are great and I love how quick combat is compared to Dark Souls. It reminds me of fighting games in a weird way, watching animations, knowing when to back off and when to go in, knowing HOW to get in, it feels like an odd way to prepare for Street Fighter V. Some specifics:
Bosses
Ludwig> Gerhman> Maria>Logarius>Gascoigne> Blood-Starved>Ebrietas> Paarl> Amelia> Amygdala> Orphan of Kos>Mergos Wet Nurse>Laurence> Cleric Beast> Rom>Shadows of Yarnham>Moon Presence> Micolash>Celestial Emmisary> The One Reborn>Living Failures>Witches.
In general, I really enjoyed the big giant beast bosses or other hunters, when the game went somewhere in between, chances are it was one of the weaker bosses. Ludwig may be one of my favorite bosses of all time, everything is centered around telling a story within the boss fight, but it never sacrifices the fun or the difficulty of it. The mid-fight cutscene, the shift in the music, the new moveset, everything about it is perfect. Gehrman is a close second, Ludwig is the best of the big beasts, Gerhman is the best of the hunters. Its great that hes almost a callback to Gascoigne, its a great to see how far youve come and how much youve grown. Parrying everything he throws at you is a great way to show off everything youve learned and makes you feel damned good, but even just dodging, hitting and running feels great with the stage and music. Lady Maria is just a well-designed boss, I like that rather than switching up her moveset, every phase just adds another hazard, making your execution tighter and punishing you harder for any mistakes you make.
Logarius is a boss that just clicks for you, he kicks your ass until you understand his pattern, then hes just a visceral machine and its a great feeling, I enjoy the rooftop environment, but dodging off of it is a pain. Gascoigne is a great deep end of the pool moment, hes a clinic on how you should be playing. I like how he starts following the same rules you do, then breaks them a little bit using his gun with the transformed axe, then says fuck it and the game expects you to adapt to a boss that just never stops.
BSB was my first wall in the game, it was the first time I started talking to myself during a fight, the first time my palms got all sweaty when his healthbar got beneath his name. BSB finally going down was probably one of my favorite moments of the game, hes the boss that taught me to be like a doctor and have patience, wait for certain attacks that open him up for damage.
Ebreitas was my late game wall, and probably the most difficult thing in the game for me. The boss was fun, but I was a little disappointed that my answer was just upgrading my weapon more. It was rare that the solution was ever a mechanical thing like that, but going in with a +10 LHB made it a completely different ballgame, it took a lot of pressure off and my biggest wall fell down.
Paarl and Amelia were about equal. Amelia was the first time I beat a boss on the first try, and the first time I wanted to have more time with a boss. I felt like I knew what I was doing going in and happened to have fire paper blazing when she began her healing process right next to me, it didnt turn out well for her.
Figuring out Amygdala was fun, I was getting pounded getting in close, and once it clicked I should keep my distance a little bit my performance improved greatly, and it felt great. Orphan was another situation where leveling was the answer, I got my ass kicked for a while, leveled, went back to test how far I still had to go and ended up winning the fight, I really enjoyed how big the arena was, but I feel like luck had a little to do with the victory, he flurried a bunch making back hits fairly easy.
Mergo wasnt difficult but looked sick, and Laurence was just a better Cleric Beast, who was already a great introduction to the game. Theres a big downslide in quality here for me, I didnt particularly enjoy any of the other fights, Rom had an interesting environment but I didnt like the flow of the fight. I was way over leveled for Moon Presence and just ran through it, Gehrman was the far better fight. Shadows were boring and you kind of just have to know your spacing, Micolash was annoying and A Call Beyond spam was awful, Celestial Emissary was barely even a boss fight and the witches were different in concept, but fell flat in execution. Living Failures were such a nothing boss and its unfortunate they were sandwiched between the two best DLC bosses. I literally cant think of a single thing to say about The One Reborn.
Best Area: Cainhurst
I tackled this as I was getting a little burned out on Yarnham. Hemwick- Forbidden Forest- Byrgenworth I thought was the weakest part of the game pacing wise, but Cainhurst brought it all back. Its such a weird experience with ghosts and gargoyles that it almost feels like a different game. I love the idea of scaling the castle and it all ends with a fantastic boss fight, its also the first area where you consistently get blood chunks so that was very exciting. Loved the dynamic between the blow darts giving you the brand and the ghosts becoming more aggressive, it also has great outfits and weapons to find.
Worst Area: Forbidden Woods
I hated this damn place, I hate snakes, I hate woods and I hate being lost. I didnt like how the first half reused enemies I had been fighting forever, I was expecting something different, which I eventually got with the snakes but the first half of this area really takes the wind out of your sales. Also ends with a disappointing boss, but seeing the Shadows of Yarnham walk out of the fog was a cool moment, and the first elevator shortcut may have been the biggest sigh of relief Ive ever released during a game.
Other Worst Area: Party Cave
Weapons
During the first part of the game I used the hunters axe and abused the R2 spin to win technique, I eventually eased into Ludwigs Holy Blade and enjoyed the flexibility it gave. Combat was fantastic and the best approach for each enemy became ingrained in my brain, it felt very cool. I wish there was an easier way to farm chunks, I would have switched up my weapon a lot more if I could upgrade them further, especially the awesome DLC weapons, I did get a Moonlight Holy Sword to +10 and used that to beat Kos, Laurence and Moon Presence. The Logarius Wheel, Chikage and Boom Hammer really interest me and I wish I spent more time with them.
Ill probably do some chalice dungeons and mess around in NG +, its been a great experience.
Bosses
Ludwig> Gerhman> Maria>Logarius>Gascoigne> Blood-Starved>Ebrietas> Paarl> Amelia> Amygdala> Orphan of Kos>Mergos Wet Nurse>Laurence> Cleric Beast> Rom>Shadows of Yarnham>Moon Presence> Micolash>Celestial Emmisary> The One Reborn>Living Failures>Witches.
In general, I really enjoyed the big giant beast bosses or other hunters, when the game went somewhere in between, chances are it was one of the weaker bosses. Ludwig may be one of my favorite bosses of all time, everything is centered around telling a story within the boss fight, but it never sacrifices the fun or the difficulty of it. The mid-fight cutscene, the shift in the music, the new moveset, everything about it is perfect. Gehrman is a close second, Ludwig is the best of the big beasts, Gerhman is the best of the hunters. Its great that hes almost a callback to Gascoigne, its a great to see how far youve come and how much youve grown. Parrying everything he throws at you is a great way to show off everything youve learned and makes you feel damned good, but even just dodging, hitting and running feels great with the stage and music. Lady Maria is just a well-designed boss, I like that rather than switching up her moveset, every phase just adds another hazard, making your execution tighter and punishing you harder for any mistakes you make.
Logarius is a boss that just clicks for you, he kicks your ass until you understand his pattern, then hes just a visceral machine and its a great feeling, I enjoy the rooftop environment, but dodging off of it is a pain. Gascoigne is a great deep end of the pool moment, hes a clinic on how you should be playing. I like how he starts following the same rules you do, then breaks them a little bit using his gun with the transformed axe, then says fuck it and the game expects you to adapt to a boss that just never stops.
BSB was my first wall in the game, it was the first time I started talking to myself during a fight, the first time my palms got all sweaty when his healthbar got beneath his name. BSB finally going down was probably one of my favorite moments of the game, hes the boss that taught me to be like a doctor and have patience, wait for certain attacks that open him up for damage.
Ebreitas was my late game wall, and probably the most difficult thing in the game for me. The boss was fun, but I was a little disappointed that my answer was just upgrading my weapon more. It was rare that the solution was ever a mechanical thing like that, but going in with a +10 LHB made it a completely different ballgame, it took a lot of pressure off and my biggest wall fell down.
Paarl and Amelia were about equal. Amelia was the first time I beat a boss on the first try, and the first time I wanted to have more time with a boss. I felt like I knew what I was doing going in and happened to have fire paper blazing when she began her healing process right next to me, it didnt turn out well for her.
Figuring out Amygdala was fun, I was getting pounded getting in close, and once it clicked I should keep my distance a little bit my performance improved greatly, and it felt great. Orphan was another situation where leveling was the answer, I got my ass kicked for a while, leveled, went back to test how far I still had to go and ended up winning the fight, I really enjoyed how big the arena was, but I feel like luck had a little to do with the victory, he flurried a bunch making back hits fairly easy.
Mergo wasnt difficult but looked sick, and Laurence was just a better Cleric Beast, who was already a great introduction to the game. Theres a big downslide in quality here for me, I didnt particularly enjoy any of the other fights, Rom had an interesting environment but I didnt like the flow of the fight. I was way over leveled for Moon Presence and just ran through it, Gehrman was the far better fight. Shadows were boring and you kind of just have to know your spacing, Micolash was annoying and A Call Beyond spam was awful, Celestial Emissary was barely even a boss fight and the witches were different in concept, but fell flat in execution. Living Failures were such a nothing boss and its unfortunate they were sandwiched between the two best DLC bosses. I literally cant think of a single thing to say about The One Reborn.
Best Area: Cainhurst
I tackled this as I was getting a little burned out on Yarnham. Hemwick- Forbidden Forest- Byrgenworth I thought was the weakest part of the game pacing wise, but Cainhurst brought it all back. Its such a weird experience with ghosts and gargoyles that it almost feels like a different game. I love the idea of scaling the castle and it all ends with a fantastic boss fight, its also the first area where you consistently get blood chunks so that was very exciting. Loved the dynamic between the blow darts giving you the brand and the ghosts becoming more aggressive, it also has great outfits and weapons to find.
Worst Area: Forbidden Woods
I hated this damn place, I hate snakes, I hate woods and I hate being lost. I didnt like how the first half reused enemies I had been fighting forever, I was expecting something different, which I eventually got with the snakes but the first half of this area really takes the wind out of your sales. Also ends with a disappointing boss, but seeing the Shadows of Yarnham walk out of the fog was a cool moment, and the first elevator shortcut may have been the biggest sigh of relief Ive ever released during a game.
Other Worst Area: Party Cave
Weapons
During the first part of the game I used the hunters axe and abused the R2 spin to win technique, I eventually eased into Ludwigs Holy Blade and enjoyed the flexibility it gave. Combat was fantastic and the best approach for each enemy became ingrained in my brain, it felt very cool. I wish there was an easier way to farm chunks, I would have switched up my weapon a lot more if I could upgrade them further, especially the awesome DLC weapons, I did get a Moonlight Holy Sword to +10 and used that to beat Kos, Laurence and Moon Presence. The Logarius Wheel, Chikage and Boom Hammer really interest me and I wish I spent more time with them.
Ill probably do some chalice dungeons and mess around in NG +, its been a great experience.
reelbigtink
Member
That was a lot of fun to read. I agree with a lot of your opinions on the game and bosses/areas.
For whatever reason I enjoyed Hemwick quite a bit. More than Cainhurst even. Something about it unsettled me. The boss was a bit of a letdown, creepy as she was.
My least favorite area by far is the Nightmare Frontier. Anything that tosses frenzy and poison at you, as well as 1-shot boulders doesn't seem very fun to me. It was the only area of the game that didn't really feel "fair" even thought I churned through it rather quickly.
The Right Deal
Banned
The areas with bell ringing ladies right off the bat really stressed me out, but not as much as the woods. One thing I did like about the Hemwick boss was the atmosphere, it sounded appropriately witchy and creepy, different from every other piece in the game and perfect for the area. Hemwick itself is great, too, I liked walking over the hill and seeing the women dancing in the graveyard, it one of the more striking images in the game. Living Failures, are also a bad boss with a great, unique theme, it gives off a B-Horror movie vibe to me.
Hey all - going though my first playthrough of Bloodborne and currently in the back half of the forbidden forest (where the big pigs are) and want to be able to summon my brother into my game, but for some reason it isn't working for us. We both have the same password set and can use our bells, but they just keep ringing and searching to no avail.
I'm sure this is a common question and apologize if its like have been answered a million times in these threads, and I can read through the thread to try to find this info, just wanted to avoid spoilers if possible.
I've played the other Souls games and understood those rule systems for joining other people's games, but I haven't been able to penetrate Bloodborne's system.
Is there a level limit? Can he not join my game because he beat the boss in that area? Do we need to be doing something with our network settings beyond setting the same password?
Appreciate any help!
I'm sure this is a common question and apologize if its like have been answered a million times in these threads, and I can read through the thread to try to find this info, just wanted to avoid spoilers if possible.
I've played the other Souls games and understood those rule systems for joining other people's games, but I haven't been able to penetrate Bloodborne's system.
Is there a level limit? Can he not join my game because he beat the boss in that area? Do we need to be doing something with our network settings beyond setting the same password?
Appreciate any help!
opticalmace
Member
Try setting the region to worldwide maybe?
I can double check that, but pretty certain I have it set to worldwide. I can make sure he double checks that on his end too.
opticalmace
Member
Not sure then, it sounds like what I do to play with my friend. I suppose you could be 100% sure that you both have the same password? :\
Yeah, we'll do that. Did some reading - looks like there isn't any level limit (it launched with one, but that was removed with a patch), so that shouldn't be it. But did see this on fextralife:
It'd be pretty amusing if that was the issue. Also saw that oaths can be causing issues. I haven't taken one, but not sure if my brother has. So I'll have to check on that, too.
Orochinagis
Member
Try to move around the summon area, if the calling takes more than 2 min, reset the calling with the silencer pistol and try it again
Arondight
Member
Finally managed to platinum this game. The subsequent runs were so much quicker probably 5-6 hours. NG++ didn't feel any more difficult surprisingly enough. Out of 52 games I've got, this is the only game where I've got higher than 50% in trophies.Spent a total of 110 hours to get it, 25% of it was spent in Central Yharnam dying and unable to beat the boss so getting the final trophy feels so satisfying.
Weltall Zero
Member
Ummmm, I'm going to suggest something really obvious as if I was a customer service agent, so don't feel insulted, OK? Are you guys using the right bells? As in, one of you is ringing the Beckoning Bell and the other one is using the Small Resonant Bell, right?
Amazing writeup, I agree with most of its points actually. I see you mention you put 10 hours into Dark Souls and weren't feeling it, could I persuade you to try again now that you have BB under your belt? In my opinion the world, scope and variety of Dark Souls is utterly unmatched and makes it entirely unforgettable.
Orochinagis
Member
The starting option doesnt matter so much, maybe for arcane since the early stat doesnt help you that much as Skill or Str
anonymous_abc
Member
Can someone explain the chalice dungeon deal for me? I've passed the first two regular ones. But I have don't have enough resources for the third chalice. Also what our root chalices?
What happens if I remove chalices do I get the resources back? Why would I remove them if I don't? Also does co-op work in them or not I can't really figure it out.
My first impression of the chalice deal is, it seems rather pointless and not as engaging and fun that's the main story. Does it get better? Otherwise it would be quite a let down after such an awesome game.
The best thing about bloodborne as the whole is the level design, it's just fantastic very intricate and well thought out.
What happens if I remove chalices do I get the resources back? Why would I remove them if I don't? Also does co-op work in them or not I can't really figure it out.
My first impression of the chalice deal is, it seems rather pointless and not as engaging and fun that's the main story. Does it get better? Otherwise it would be quite a let down after such an awesome game.
The best thing about bloodborne as the whole is the level design, it's just fantastic very intricate and well thought out.
The Right Deal
Banned
I actually have Demon Souls on my radar next, after looking into them, that's the one that interests me the most. If I dig that, I'll probably try jumping into Dark Souls again, thanks for the advice!
DeaDPo0L84
Member
I really need help with Micolash. I'm literally on my 15th attempt. Any one care to help?
Root chalices are randomized dungeons, every time you make one it will have a different level design and bosses. The non root chalices are always the same.
You don't get resources back when you remove a chalice but you can create a new one for free, so you can hop back in and farm. Basically you need to use materials once per chalice.
For coop you have to buy the short ritual at the insight shop, and then use the first tomb to enter to another dungeon as a summon, or just ring the bell if you want to summon soneone.
The only worthwhile Chalices are the Depth 5 ones, so it's a grind until then. If you like a challenge, then you may like the Depth 5 variants. They also have the best gems for your weapons, and the regular weapons with different gems slots (Uncanny and Lost) for mix-maxing if you like that.
Sure, gimme a min and I'll ring. Any pass?
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Wow that was a fast response thanks. I'll make it dp123. I'm right outside the fog door.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
My PSN is my username here.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Ringing by the door now
Hmmm not sure why it's taking so long...
Yeah I dunno. It kicked me out once but I'm ringing again but nothing happens :/ check you have network on worldwide maybe?
EDIT: It kicked me out again, the fuck is happening.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
I'm gonna silence then ring again. Should I have it on local? Sorry...
no, you should have it on worldwide, but seems like something is going on with PSN. It's randomly kicking me out and for what I'm seeing on Reddit I'm not the only one :/
DeaDPo0L84
Member
That would explain why earlier people would randomly get returned to their own world halfway through the fight. At first I was like "well that guy was a dick",but now it makes sense. Ughhh I just need this stupid ritual material called "living string" so I can beat yharnam queen and get the platinum for this game.
I reeboted everything (console and router). Let's try one more time if you want to.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
For sure! Does it matter if you ring first or whatever?
DeaDPo0L84
Member
It doesn't matter.
And it kicked me out again for fucks sake
This blows. Have they actually said anything about the issue?
Nope, but I'm not the only one
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/45lcqp/bloodborne_servers/
Dunno what's going on. Sorry man
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Nope, but I'm not the only one
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/45lcqp/bloodborne_servers/
Dunno what's going on. Sorry man
Not your fault at all. Hopefully this crap gets fixed asap.
I think it's good to be thorough, so not insulted at all. Can't assume anything. I'm pretty sure, but will double check next time we try to co-op.
After banging my head about 30 times against Orphan of Kos (and like ten times against Laurence), I think it's time to move on and finally finish Bloodborne. Just not having fun anymore. These bosses remind me of the things I hated about the DS2 DLC bosses. Way too much HP, way too overpowered.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Finally beat him! +10 Whirlgig saw seemed to be the trick for me.
Grats! +10 Pizza cutter always do the trick lol
BlackSalad
Member
platinum get!
Obtaining the last trophy from the chalice dungeons was rough from a replay standpoint, but I pushed through. The amount of echoes you get from some of the enemies in depth 5 dungeons is just insane.
I hate those psychos or whatever they are called, could never quite time them right.
Obtaining the last trophy from the chalice dungeons was rough from a replay standpoint, but I pushed through. The amount of echoes you get from some of the enemies in depth 5 dungeons is just insane.
I hate those psychos or whatever they are called, could never quite time them right.
Joei
Member
So I'm at the end of the game, just have to fight the last boss, but I've been doing the Chalices and holy crap some of these later bosses are ridiculous. The Watchdog in the Defiled Pt. one was hard as crap! Now, I'm currently stuck on Amygdala. The fact those bosses can one hit you cause of the HP penalty drives me nuts. Watchdog took me forever to beat, and I just can't get past Amygdala now, though I may have just been burnt out the other night. I think I'm going to buy the DLC and run through that before trying to finish him and the Chalices. Oh, and the blood echoes you get from these is crazy. I ran through the one with Amygdala and got almost 250k, though part of that was dying halfway through and getting my echoes back. And I haven't even touched the depth 5 ones yet.
On a sidenote, the naked rolling baby's... argggh... the one in Amygdalas chalice one-shot me a few times, lol. So annoying.
On a sidenote, the naked rolling baby's... argggh... the one in Amygdalas chalice one-shot me a few times, lol. So annoying.
