Good to hear because I dont want to fight Logarious underpowered lol.
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Good to hear because I dont want to fight Logarious underpowered lol.
I remembered yesterday I had started a Bloodtinge character and never really progressed with him. I think I beat Gascoigne and then focused on my main. So I decided to jump back in last night, I took down the BSB and got to the lamp in Hemwick. Man, I forgot how tense this game is when you first start. I was on a roll yesterday and didn't die once (except when I fell off the Healing Church after I cleared it...oops).
Going to take down the Witches and most likely Vicar tonight.
Going to take down the Witches and most likely Vicar tonight.
Doing this too at the moment.
So any general tips while you are clearing woudl be nice.
For BSB I guess using that stuff to lure it, fire paper and bring Alfred.
NG+ lvl90 and haven't played in a while? You will have lots of fun. It is possible around those levels but it is very brutal so you should definitely go get some levels and have +10 weapon with good gems (best ones you get from main game are +18% physical/ +18% physical / 15% Atk UP).
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Who's Lobos...?
You mean the quickdraw move? Yeah, that's a good shout. Reminds me of the ol' Iaito.
So I have a question of what is the exact recommended time I tackle the DLC. I was recommended a level of 65-80 (i'm currently 55 or so), but I want to know what time should I go in.
I'm currently going to finish up the Forbidden Woods, before doing Castle Cainhurst. By the end, I should be at level 65 or so. Here is my issue.
I want the Rakuyo. I don't know if I'll main with it, but I want it. However, it's only at the very end of the DLC. Okay. But I also heard that the DLC is ball crushingly hard. Like, moreso than the man campaign.
So, I want to get the Rakuyo, and I'm willing to struggle to get the sword I want. HOWEVER, since I heard it's so damn hard, I'm concerned that if I beat it, and then go back to the main campaign, I'll find it disappointingly easy because the DLC is that much harder.
Advise on how to proceed?
I'm currently going to finish up the Forbidden Woods, before doing Castle Cainhurst. By the end, I should be at level 65 or so. Here is my issue.
I want the Rakuyo. I don't know if I'll main with it, but I want it. However, it's only at the very end of the DLC. Okay. But I also heard that the DLC is ball crushingly hard. Like, moreso than the man campaign.
So, I want to get the Rakuyo, and I'm willing to struggle to get the sword I want. HOWEVER, since I heard it's so damn hard, I'm concerned that if I beat it, and then go back to the main campaign, I'll find it disappointingly easy because the DLC is that much harder.
Advise on how to proceed?
Randy Monk
Member
So last night I was doing a bit of jolly cooperation at the Witch Abode. When I got beckoned I see the beckoner and another co-operator ganging up on an invader. Seeing as he is outnumbered I back off and wait till they finish him off.
The invader starts running away, down towards Hemmick Charnel lane and the beckoner chases after him. I'm just chilling out, killing some wild dogs waiting for them. So the beckoner and co-operator comes back and we head towards the witch fight.
At the fog gate just before I enter, I get back stabbed by a charged Ludwig blade. The invader had run away and now has returned to get his comeuppance. I die and return back to my world. The beckoner was already in the boss arena so I'm wondering will the invader be able to meddle with the boss fight or will he also return to his world?
The invader starts running away, down towards Hemmick Charnel lane and the beckoner chases after him. I'm just chilling out, killing some wild dogs waiting for them. So the beckoner and co-operator comes back and we head towards the witch fight.
At the fog gate just before I enter, I get back stabbed by a charged Ludwig blade. The invader had run away and now has returned to get his comeuppance. I die and return back to my world. The beckoner was already in the boss arena so I'm wondering will the invader be able to meddle with the boss fight or will he also return to his world?
I did not fight this boss yet, but I'm pretty sure that this will be one of the videos I watch and think: "No, that's not the boss I try to kill right now"
Who's Lobos...?
You mean the quickdraw move? Yeah, that's a good shout. Reminds me of the ol' Iaito.
He streams Souls games and Bloodborne and does insane challenge runs. He has beaten all BB bosses with fists only for example.
JadedWriter
Member
Lobos Jr is a psychopath that does souls runs that no man should ever do. I'm waiting for him to play the game with his feet using the guitar hero controller.Who's Lobos...?
You mean the quickdraw move? Yeah, that's a good shout. Reminds me of the ol' Iaito.
DLC is harder than non-DLC endgame. You'll need to beat 3 DLC bosses to get to Rakuyo, two of which are probably the hardest non-optional bosses in the game. Play main story until you beat the boss at the top of Mergo's Loft, then go to DLC. If you even *can* get to the Rakuyo now (doubtful), you'll probably breeze through whatever's left of the main game.
JadedWriter
Member
This takes a long time too, I've never been able to sit through the entire video for these.
Orochinagis
Member
There are bigger monsters out of Gaf indeed
Red Liquorice
Member
Fist only on NG+7 even. It's inhuman.
Dragon1893
Member
Phew, finally beat him, didn't have the music box but a couple of parries did the trick.
I wish there was another way I could just get the damn weapon. I'm not going to be sticking around after I beat Bloodborne to play it more times. At best, I'll take on NG+ next year or so, if I feel like it. So getting Rakuyo is effectively beating the game for me in that case.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Is it possibly to do a chalic dungeon to get the variation of the rakuyo without getting the default one? I have no idea, just wondering if someone might know.
I read on Wiki that you have to have in inventory the normal one if not they dont sell it.
I could be wrong tho.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
You are prob right. I have no idea haha just a random thought.
That is honestly the best strategy for him. Alfred doesn't supply much damage but he is a tank and definitely can take some damage.
Use the Pungent Blood cocktails during phase 2 and on. Molotovs are also useful.
JadedWriter
Member
Man, played some of my NG++ character and I'm now level 180...what's the point of even leveling up? Barely does anything and I need about 250K echoes.
I find it interesting how DS focus' on the actual combat gameplay, making levels less and less relevant as it goes on.
I'm very huge into action games. You know, DMC, NG, Bayonetta, etc. And after playing Bloodborne as much as I have, I can't help but feel that this is a very tactical action game that just wraps itself in an RPG cloak that diminish as it goes on.
I had a discussion with another action game nut about what the next evolution of action games would be, and he theorized it would be incorporating RPG elements into it. If so, that would make the Souls games the first heralding of this new trend, and I wouldn't really mind that, though those games would probably put that toward a more empowering design philosophy than the Souls games.
JadedWriter
Member
I think once NG+++ starts, stats probably just mean fuck all.
You still melt stuff or you start to become underpowered as you going up on the NG+++?
My goal in this game is to go from start to finish feeling like a God destroying monsters
Maybe Ill stop after NG+ if it starts to become harder and harder.
JadedWriter
Member
This character is still pretty legit since I'm using the Chikage and Threaded Cane at +10 with really good gems on them. I can still one shot visceral the enemies, but they do hit pretty hard. I'm curious as to how bad the difficulty will be with this character in the dlc, but on each cycle the damage you take and the enemy health pools go up and leveling up isn't what I'd call easy at this level and you can only upgrade a damage stat so much before it just stops benefitting you. I have both skill and bloodtinge at 50. I notch up skill and it doesn't do shit so I just upgraded strength to increase the damage output of both weapons why one, it's diminishing returns at that point.You still melt stuff or you start to become underpowered as you going up on the NG+++?
My goal in this game is to go from start to finish feeling like a God destroying monsters
Maybe Ill stop after NG+ if it starts to become harder and harder.
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Orochinagis
Member
You reach your pinaccle around 200 lv or 220lv I think, if you have your char too spread on stats it may be a waste of char instead of a more oriented build char.
JadedWriter
Member
What are people pumping stats into at that point? Arcane?
Orochinagis
Member
Vit and End I guess, I stopped leveling around 180 yet I still not fully capped Endurance and STR
Jack Scofield
Member
Hey guys. I need some literal guidance in this game. I beat Father Gascoigne a few days ago. Instead of going directly to Old Yharnam, I explored the immediate area outside of Oedon Chapel. I bought and used the Hunter Chief Emblem to open up a gate and proceeded this way. I just beat Vicar Amelia in the Grand Cathedral. Outside of this church, one area leads to a forest and the other took me to some enemies with electric attacks.
I just spoke with my friend and he says that I went the wrong way and missed out on some NPCs and skipped a big part of the game. Did I fuck up? Because that would really suck, The game still gives the option of spawning at Oedon Chapel and Old Yharnam, so I'm hoping that I didn't I didn't irrevocably mess up.
I just spoke with my friend and he says that I went the wrong way and missed out on some NPCs and skipped a big part of the game. Did I fuck up? Because that would really suck, The game still gives the option of spawning at Oedon Chapel and Old Yharnam, so I'm hoping that I didn't I didn't irrevocably mess up.
What is the cap for END? I've read the cap on STR & SKL is 50, does the same go for END?
Curious to know because I'm currently at 45 END and I still feel "clunky" with the pizza cutter. Does that change, or am I just accustomed to "light weapons" (saw cleaver)?
Orochinagis
Member
So far most of the stats caps at 50,
the wiki says 40
opticalmace
Member
Nope, you're totally fine. In fact good on you for killing Amelia first!
You should definitely go towards the forest, there's some good stuff that way. Old Yharnam is also optional... though I would go clear it out anyway.
Have you found the workshop yet?
Jack Scofield
Member
Good to hear I didn't miss anything! Even though Old Yharnam is optional I'll definitely go check it out.
As for the workshop, the only workshop that I'm familiar with is the one from the Hunter's Dream, but I'm assuming that you're talking about something else? At least, I think it's called the workshop...it's where you can upgrade your weapons.
Arondight
Member
Recommend beating other locations first before Forbidden Woods. All locations are fully accessible. The only way you miss out is if you didn't explore every part of the game.
Quests will be affected by the state of the moon though.
Different. Location is after a location you haven't beat yet.
Orochinagis
Member
I reccomend you to fully explore those doors on Yharman now, even some windows. after the moon phase starts the save NPCs sidequest starts
opticalmace
Member
By forest I assumed he meant Hemwick Lane... if you meant the Forbidden Woods, then don't go there until you do all the other stuff around (old yharnam, hemwick, another place or two...).
Jack Scofield
Member
It's whatever area is directly to the right after stepping out of the Grand Cathedral (where the Vicar Amelia boss fight takes place). It looked like a forested area but I haven't really even stepped foot in there yet.
Tomorrow, my game plan is to explore Old Yharnam. After that I'll go after the electric guys outside the Cathedral and finally go into the forested area mentioned above.
There seemed to be a few quests and secrets that I still haven't discovered yet. For example, there was a man who asked for a password and gave me a clue to check Oedon Chapel. I'll try doing this tomorrow as well.
Thanks, everyone!
You may have missed a quest or two but all the endings are still open, and you can't close yourself off from any zones.
You got the password when you beat Amelia, you learn it in the vision you see when you touch the skull on the altar after beating her.
For quests, keep an eye out for red lanterns hung by doors / windows. They mark NPCs. Most zones open to you have at least one, but they're especially prevalent in Cathedral Ward and first zone, I always forget what it's called.
Melchiah
Member
This is what The Old Hunters guide book says:
The main game will feel easier after the DLC, so I'd personally recommend to go there after you've beaten the M
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I'm at level 212 on NG+, and I find it fun to have a character that can use almost all the weapons and hunter tools. Having arcane at level 24 still prevents me from using all of them. I doubt I'll ever raise it much higher, as levelling up takes +300k echoes.
JadedWriter
Member
I have 34 str, 50 skl and 30 bld so I can use pretty much anything that isn't governed by arcane. I guess I should just stop leveling up str and level up what I can with arcane then.
Melchiah
Member
I've got 50 vit/str/bld, 55 skl, and 33 end. I doubt A Call Beyond is worth raising the arcane up to the outrageous 40. IIRC, that's the only thing I can't use with the build. I guess there are also some arcane weapons, that don't deliver that high damage at level 24.
JadedWriter
Member
I never thought about raising my skill above 50, is it even worth it?
Melchiah
Member
I raised it when it gave me more than a single-digit increase. I guess getting better gems was the reason for the increase?
Dragon1893
Member
Decided to check online for the music box people were telling me to use against Gascoigne.
I totally missed the girl, now I feel bad for using the Red Jeweled Brooch, wont be able to give it to her.
I totally missed the girl, now I feel bad for using the Red Jeweled Brooch, wont be able to give it to her.
Okay, so I'm at something of a crossroads.
Over the next 20 levels, i can either pour my levels into my Skill, bringing it up to 50, or I can pour it into another stat, which will bring it up to around 30 (which is what my current skill is).
What is more advantageous, specializing in one area or being a hybrid of two different skills?
Over the next 20 levels, i can either pour my levels into my Skill, bringing it up to 50, or I can pour it into another stat, which will bring it up to around 30 (which is what my current skill is).
What is more advantageous, specializing in one area or being a hybrid of two different skills?
JadedWriter
Member
Don't feel bad.
You get more of a benefit maining skill than you would diverting from that and pouring it into bloodtinge, unless you want to use a lot of Bone Marrow Ash on the repeating pistol. Once you go Bloodtinge you pretty much just go like "whelp time to use the Chikage" which you don't want to use any way. Rapier scales off of skill any way.
Marty-esque
Member
I would focus on getting your skill to 50. Better to prioritize one stat.