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super-famicom
Member
There is one Blood Rock in the main game, in
Nightmare of Mensis
You can randomly find them in Chalice Dungeons. You can only pick up one Blood Rock per Dungeon type (Izs, Loran, Pthumeru, etc) per character per NG cycle. If you pick up a Blood Rock in a certain chalice type, the next time you find what is supposed to be a Blood Rock will be a Great Madman's Knowledge instead.
Here are some chalice glyphs for dungeons containing them: http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/341kex/if_you_havent_got_your_bloodrocks_from_the/
You get blood rock from
Nightmare of Mensis
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Happened to me in NG+ (was fine in NG and later in NG++). Tried restarting but it didn't work. Oh well, at least TOR is easy.
To add to that, you can only get up to 3 blood rocks from chalice dungeons, since you can't get more than one per chalice type (Pthumeru, Ailing Loran and Isz). If you use a different glyph for the same type, even if it's on a different layer, the treasure will be a Great One Wisdom instead of a rock.
Spiritwalker
Member
Ah ok, thanks for answering. I discovered that area earlier, but didn't stick around for very long.
KOMANI
KOMANI
No, but to be fair, I don't search. I made a second character for co op. My regret is I never did pvp
I grinded to level 200 is my first play through. In my second play through I just speed run the game for a blood rock and trophy. On my third, I hit level 300... Then I used the forbiden woods caged dog trick to gain 800,000,000 echoes to level everything to 99.
I haven't noticed things getting more difficult, but what I did notice was I got more blood echoes for slaying the same enemy at a higher playthrough. Just a few thousand more. Iirc, the black Knights with the axe dropped 97,000 blood echoes at one point, then 101,000 the next ng+.
I've lost track at which ng+ I'm at. I'm currently farming for chunks and gems. I'm looking for anything higher than 21% phy attack. If anyone knows if there are such gems, please let me know. Thank you.
thunker 9000
Member
Here is a high level PvP strategy that I worked out for Bloodborne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVWszFf6GzI
You are welcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVWszFf6GzI
You are welcome.
Happened to me in NG+ (was fine in NG and later in NG++). Tried restarting but it didn't work. Oh well, at least TOR is easy.
To add to that, you can only get up to 3 blood rocks from chalice dungeons, since you can't get more than one per chalice type (Pthumeru, Ailing Loran and Isz). If you use a different glyph for the same type, even if it's on a different layer, the treasure will be a Great One Wisdom instead of a rock.
Wait, there is a limit on rock farming for dungeons? Is this per playthrough?
WyndhamPrice
Member
I just beat the game the other night and reading through this thread I realized I totally missed Cainhurst Castle and Nightmare Frontier on my first playthrough. I'm on to NG+ now so I'll definitely have to hit those areas up on my second go-around.
Shin Kojima
Banned
I used a glyph for getting a rock, went to NG++ to obtain it again but there was just a Great One's Wisdom in the coffin instead.
Alebrije
Member
If you have the 3 moon rubes you get 51421 for each pig on N+, but e en without the runes is a great spot to farm since on a few minutes you farm a lot of echoes witout fighting two pigs and mages.
You star the área, kill the firsth 3 mages and the pig , the star running toward the two pigs, pasa them and they will follow you keep run ing toward the mages pass them and go where the bridge is, by this time the pigs and mages will be fighting each other , usually the mages kill the pigs but they lost a lot of hp so you can easily kill them. After you killed all of them go down the elevator to reach the lamp and repeat the process
Got a lot done this past weekend with my L20 guy: Ebrietas, Bloodletting Beast (lower pthu ver), and all the Hintertomb/Lower Hintertomb bosses. Feeling stronk.
Of course the guy I leveled up to L20 for in the first place, G
, I still haven't beaten after dozens of tries.
I dry my tears.
And move onto Abhorrent Beast.
Please support me with telepathy thanks.
Of course the guy I leveled up to L20 for in the first place, G
ehrman
I dry my tears.
And move onto Abhorrent Beast.
Please support me with telepathy thanks.
dang, I would have missed cainhurst castle too if I didn't randomly see a youtube vid of
someone going to a certain headstone in a certain graveyard.
missing nightmare frontier is more of a surprise though. the lecture room is one of my fav spots. great atmo.
Here is a high level PvP strategy that I worked out for Bloodborne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVWszFf6GzI
You are welcome.
Montage that with some wubwub
SamusPrime
Banned
What range should discovery be in? I can get to 218 I believe and get only shards and twin shards from the werewolves in Upper. I kept at it for at least a half hour yesterday until I got sick of getting single shards and gave up.
Will check out Cainhurst today to see what happens. On the upside, I learned how to fuck those wolves up like nobody's business.
Metalingus5150
Member
Glyph can be used for free right? The damn chalice mechanic is still a tad confusing to me lol.
nice! thanks, for some reason I just love going through that area. its easy but you have to stay on your game because four mages can wreck you if your not paying attention.
btw where did you get the 3rd moon rune? I'm on my first play though and have done everything except go though the gate in hunters dream to fight Gherman.
Well if you can't proceed anymore from the last boss area you have completed it.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Since chalice dungeons are unrelated to playthrough, no, I don't think so, but my testing was all done in NG++. Maybe I should try a different glyph in NG+++ to see if there's a difference, but I doubt it.
I don't know if there's some other way to farm unlimited blood rocks, but using this document, I tried the following glyphs, more or less in that order:
Lower Ailing Loran:
4292egu2
Isz:
rpzkeauc
3nawt3ys
fmu9qx9g
4292egu2 and rpzkeauc gave a Blood Rock. 3nawt3ys and fmu9qx9g gave a Great One's Wisdom, despite being on different layers and/or being Fetid/Rotted vs no additional rites (in the doc, those Isz glyphs don't mention being F/R but I recall one of them was when I generated it in the game). I'm pretty sure that if you try 3nawt3ys first, you'll get a Blood Rock, and then you'll get a Great One's Wisdom from rpzkeauc and any other glyph.
I haven't tried yet but I'm assuming, say, 9vb3tzza (Pthumeru Ihyll) would also give a Blood Rock, since I haven't picked one up from a Pthumeru dungeon yet.
Edit:
Ah. That's what I assumed, since chalice dungeons are completely independent of NG/NG+ etc. playthroughs. I'm assuming you dismantled the glyph and re-made it, as well?
You need to "pay" for it only once, for that type of chalice. Basically, if you want to use, say, glyph 4jgecv28 (that's actually mine haha, I shared it 'cause it's got decent loot), which is Lower Ailing Loran (F+R), you need to create at least one Root Lower Loran chalice and probably make it F+R too (I don't know if just making it Fetid or just Rotted will work). You don't need to beat that dungeon at all, just spend the materials to make it. After that, you can use any glyph that matches these parameters (Lower Loran + F + R) at no cost. You can also dismantle a glyph and remake it if you want, and normal loot (vials etc. lying around) and the bosses will respawn, but unique loot will only be a Great One's Wisdom.
Thought so. I'll remove those chalices from my altars.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Going into NG+ and destroying the first two bosses first try.....so good
FF Seraphim
Member
Tagging this so I can use later! Thanks brother!
WyndhamPrice
Member
I missed the alternate entrance to the lecture room and thus missed the entire first floor so my time there was pretty brief.
burntchomsky
Member
It's possible to dodge it if you double-dodge just as she is coming at you. But...yeah I really hate that fight. I believe the strategy I ended up using to beat it was to stay at an approximate range from her so that when she charged, she would land right in front of me. This way you don't have to avoid the charge at all, and you get a couple of hits in each time.
Alebrije
Member
Yea that area is fun to play not only to farm echoes, last saturday made 3,500,000 . The 3rd rune guess i got it on a chalice dungeon but not sure
Yes. You can only get a rock from each chalice types. Thus, if you got one for Isz, every other Isz dungeon rock will turn into a wisdom item. It's done so you can't get unlimited rocks. Think, it may also applies to other items. I got a Lost Chikage and joined another dungeon with one, but where the weapon supposedly was to be found, it ended up being a wisdom item.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
No prob, glad my glyph testing is useful to someone else. ^^ I guess they didn't want people to get tons of blood rocks, but it still kinda sucks. Even with those shared glyphs, they aren't that numerous. Plus, chunks are already pretty rare so it's not like you could really max out that many weapons.
PS: sister ^^
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I have no investment in Arcane points for my current build so im assuming putting arcane haze on my Ludwig is pointless is that correct?
It's designed as a nightmare after all, The fact that they managed on top of that to make the player feel the insanity and build it into the game in a such efficient way is brilliant.
That place is probably my favorite place in Bloodborne. No other game managed to to use the Lovecraft mythos this well.
You need to appreciate such a piece of art.
This is not for everyone. I understand that very well.
FF Seraphim
Member
Hmm chucks are somewhat rare I find the Blue Eye Wolves with a Discovery of 240+ seem to give me a chuck or two every other run or every 3rd run. It has a lot to do with luck but I have several weapons at 8+ or 9+, I only have my Ludwig at 10+ though so the Blood Rock is much needed.
I was calling forth the spirit of Macho Man Randy Savage! THE CREAM OF THE CROP!
SPACECADET
Member
while he's there he should back stab/visceral attack the pig. i could get 4 echos out of it normally.
sounds good. I'm making my way down the chalice dungeons and I beat the BLB and ROM I think I'm depth 4 and ize depth 5. some of those boss's are just scary. I think I'll take the plunge and go NG+. I've been putting it off for too long.
Happened to me, and turning the console off and back on fixed it for me
super-famicom
Member
Arcane Haze is a material used in making Chalice Dungeons.
FiveSix4Three
Member
Made my way to
last night.
Fuck that
outside his "entrance."
Rom
Fuck that
hunter
Lasthope106
Member
I'm about 3/4ths of the way into the game, and I'm disappointed with Bloodborne. Before you proceed to call me crazy, I need to say that I'm enjoying the game a lot, but I would rank it below Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls.
My biggest beef by far are the enemies. They are for the most part forgettable and uninspired. My favorite boss is Amygdala
Having said, I've had a really hard time remembering the bosses. They all blend together. This was not the case with Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls.
Another issue I have with the game is the levels. There hasn't been anything resembling Sen's Fortress in this game. A thread was posted last week about how the progression to Anor Londo was fantastic in Dark Souls. From what I have played of Bloodborne so far, it doesn't look like there is going to be anything similar to that in the game.
Finally, there are a lot of things that are annoying me and have been pointed out already in the OT, and other Bloodborne threads. Stuff like the lack of and diversity of armor, the restriction on the number of builds you can play.
My biggest beef by far are the enemies. They are for the most part forgettable and uninspired. My favorite boss is Amygdala
because it is thematically the one that fits better with the whole H.P. Lovecraft vibe that the game is going for. The whole nightmare frontier was cohesive, and I would have rather have fought Amygdala than Rom, in order to set the transition into madness, and otherworldly feeling and change of tone.
Another issue I have with the game is the levels. There hasn't been anything resembling Sen's Fortress in this game. A thread was posted last week about how the progression to Anor Londo was fantastic in Dark Souls. From what I have played of Bloodborne so far, it doesn't look like there is going to be anything similar to that in the game.
Finally, there are a lot of things that are annoying me and have been pointed out already in the OT, and other Bloodborne threads. Stuff like the lack of and diversity of armor, the restriction on the number of builds you can play.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
People need to realize that nobody can help you if you don't post your level and/or level range...
Alebrije
Member
If you are going for the platinum throphy try to beat every boss before NG+, just to have an easier path later.
joecanada
Member
Each boss is different depending on what your weapons, strengths are and that's what makes bloodborne good.
My first fight against rom was over in 5 min with tonitrus, I didn't even know she had an aoe attack lol.
Second character blades of mercy, top tier weapon but not working so good against rom got killed in close 4 times already, by aoe, not the icicles or spiderlings.
Also the old memory leak was evident in some people's playthrough, they didn't even know such attacks existed
sorry, level 113
GeordieMark
Member
I found getting up close and personal with her was best. She barely used the charge on me. Bolt paper helps too.
I didn't use lock on, and tried to get behind her as much as possible. If I took a hit, I just retreat and vial up, but I guess that isn't an option here.
Backfoggen
Banned
As fucked as the Defiled Chalice bosses are, they are also fun. The bosses they chose to put in there work well because they don't have bullshit unavoidable/unpredictable attacks or shitty camera messing them up. You have to and can get gud against them.
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Haha, yep. So far, I've completely plowed through the bosses that gave me trouble in my first playthrough: primarily Gascoigne, Blood Starved Beast, and Vicar Amelia.
Plus, it's super easy to get back to them for retries. I was initially very unimpressed with the Chalice Dungeons, but I've grown to like them quite a bit. I still am not a fan of the dungeon design, but as pure combat arenas, they get the job done.
super-famicom
Member
I wish there were more swinging blades and traps in the Chalice Dungeons, like Sen's Fortress. Usually it's only one room that has the blades, and even then it's random.
KillerDark
Member
People struggle with different bosses haha. I definitely struggled with
Rom
Shadows, Ebrietas (which I see a lot of people say they struggled with here), Gherman, Wet Nurse, Moon Presence
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Ahhhh it's not for imbuing my weapon then? Gotcha
This is a dumb question but how is overall physical defense different than your blunt, thrust stats?