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[knitoe]

Does Root chalices have the same bosses as the regular ones?

Random bosses and layout.

 

[SodiumBenzoate]

Does Root chalices have the same bosses as the regular ones?

Hypothetically it sould be exactly the same, but no, not necessarily.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the the boss pool is randomly picked from all bosses for that dungeon type (ex. for Pthumeru you can get Upper, Central, Lower, Defiled, and Ithyll Bosses adjusted for the appropriate difficulty, probably excluding

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Yarnham

). For Isz and Loran I think the pool is expanded since there are less choices there.

If that's the area I think it is, you just train the spiders to the conveniently placed hole in the floor a couple of corners away. They fall down, you go in and mop up the bell-ringers and wolves. Job done.

They will follow you back up the spiral stairs and be back in the room after ~15 seconds.

 

[Lion Heart]

If I kill Eileen right when I met her, do I get the badge and am able to buy blades of Mercy?

 

[burgerdog]

Gone for two months due to work I'm going to miss this damn game.

 

[Cheat Code]

I will probably kill Miyazaki before I kill Ebiatras.

EDIT: I DID IT! MIYAZAKI LIVES!

 

[knitoe]

If I kill Eileen right when I met her, do I get the badge and am able to buy blades of Mercy?

Yes, but have fun getting the 40K to buy it since even the mobs that give you the most echos, werewolves, only give you like 400ish each. I tried that on a new char, but only to fail because of that. Now, if on NG+, it would be another matter.

 

[Clear]

They will follow you back up the spiral stairs and be back in the room after ~15 seconds.

It gives you ample time to take out the bell-ringers which will despawn most of the spiders. Dodging the wolves is easy enough and you can always reset and start over by waiting behind the pit.

Its pointless, but kind of an interesting puzzle to solve. A far harder nut to crack for me was the huge oil swamp area with 3 giants, two of which are toting cannons and have a long range of vision so that its kind of dfficult to attack one without the other aggroing.

That was a bit tough, but creative use of some of the lesser used tools did the job for me.

 

[Maybesew]

They spawn after killing Blood-Starved Beast, and disappear after killing Rom.

Thanks that explains it. I haven't bothered with OY yet.

 

[BoxManLocke]

Okay so I killed Gascoigne, Cleric, Vicar, Witch, and Paarl. And I've explored every area very thoroughly.

And now I'm just running in circles. I don't know where I'm supposed to go. Could somebody be kind enough to point me to the right direction ?

 

[WhiskerFrisker]

Gone for two months due to work I'm going to miss this damn game.

You'll be missed, good Hunter.

 

[joecanada]

Yes, but have fun getting the 40K to buy it since even the mobs that give you the most echos, werewolves, only give you like 400ish each. I tried that on a new char, but only to fail because of that. Now, if on NG+, it would be another matter.

Is it 40? Huh I bought them right after 2nd boss... Worth it

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Okay so I killed Gascoigne, Cleric, Vicar, Witch, and Paarl. And I've explored every area very thoroughly.

And now I'm just running in circles. I don't know where I'm supposed to go. Could somebody be kind enough to point me to the right direction ?

Go the the grand cathedral lamp post, make sure you touch the skull ( should have gotten a cutscene) down the stairs to the plaza where those 2 giants with axes are at. On the right should be a gaint dude and behind him a pathway. Take it. It should lead to the forbidden woods all the way at the end.

 

[knitoe]

Is it 40? Huh I bought them right after 2nd boss... Worth it

Yes. The Blade of Mercy cost 40K from the vendor. At the beginning of the game, when you first meet Eileen, you would be lucky to have a few 1000s echoes. As for bosses, Cleric Beast gives 4K, Father Gascoigne 1.8K and Blood-starved Beast 6.6K.

 

[joecanada]

nice things in the cellar #nope #killitwithfire

There's a cellar in there? Eek

 

[Xeteh]

Yes. The Blade of Mercy cost 40K from the vendor. At the beginning of the game, when you first meet Eileen, you would be lucky to have a few 1000s echoes.

When I did it I just cleared towards BSB for echoes and shards. Took a bit but it wasn't too bad.

 

[Kadey]

So the regular chalice dungeons are story based but root ones have better items and are totally random? Is it even worth doing the root ones? If I'm not going to get anything out of them I'd rather not do them but I want to do the ones that explain the story.

 

[ryuken-d]

I bet it's the Beast Claw that your missing.

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It's not in the story mode, its in the dungeons, I forget which one.

actually I just got the claws in the depth 4 izs isz I think.... holy shit big duh over here. It has to be the Scythe! right?! I haven't beat

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Gharmen

yet. jeez.

 

[Onemic]

Is Nightmare Frontier a PVP area or something? Whenever Im in there a sinister bell is constantly ringing.(Of course I had my first pvp battle there too)

 

[BoxManLocke]

Go the the grand cathedral lamp post, make sure you touch the skull ( should have gotten a cutscene) down the stairs to the plaza where those 2 giants with axes are at. On the right should be a gaint dude and behind him a pathway. Take it. It should lead to the forbidden woods all the way at the end.

Thanks. Got the cutscene already, but I must have missed that path, unless it only becomes available after you kill Vicar.

Btw, I still have a couple of locked doors in some areas (chapel area right next to a chest, top of the healing church workshop). I assume those doors are unlockable at some point ? Just want to know if I should keep trying.

 

[joecanada]

Equip the best anti fire armor you can find, equip max hp plus and damage reduction runes,then hope that's enough to not die in 1 hit.
I would also recommand to get a long range meele weapon and play it super save.

You must be in a lower dungeon than me I dodge straight in and slash his legs with blades of mercy then finish with heavy hit, which drops him then slash away and jump back. Three times in and dead.

Ya fire resistance tho

But dodging straight in is what I found effective

Edit - oops to add what you replied to original poster

 

[knitoe]

Is Nightmare Frontier a PVP area or something? Whenever Im in there a sinister bell is constantly ringing.(Of course I had my first pvp battle there too)

The Nightmare zones have a sinister bell ringing maiden who summons pvp invaders. If you find and kill her, she won't automatically spawns and pvp stops. Now, if you summon a helper (co-op), the game spawns her and she rings her sinister bell again.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Is Nightmare Frontier a PVP area or something? Whenever Im in there a sinister bell is constantly ringing.(Of course I had my first pvp battle there too)

yeah one of the areas you can get invaded.

Thanks. Got the cutscene already, but I must have missed that path, unless it only becomes available after you kill Vicar.

Btw, I still have a couple of locked doors in some areas (chapel area right next to a chest, top of the healing church workshop). I assume those doors are unlockable at some point ? Just want to know if I should keep trying.

You need a password, which you got from the cutscene, to contiune that direction. If you're talking about the locked door at the very top by the holy sword badge or whatever it's called, then you will be able to find the key in a later area of the game. It's kinda hard to find so

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its in the unseen villiage after you clear the forbidden woods.

Edit: if one of the doors you are talking about is by the chest that gives you a gem by the gaint dude with the wreckin ball, then no that door can not be open.

 

[Late Flag]

You must be in a lower dungeon than me I dodge straight in and slash his legs with blades of mercy then finish with heavy hit, which drops him then slash away and jump back. Three times in and dead.

Ya fire resistance tho

But dodging straight in is what I found effective

Edit - oops to add what you replied to original poster

Yeah, none of that is going to work on the defiled version of that boss. The first version is no problem. The defiled version? Problem.

 

[Cess007]

Is Nightmare Frontier a PVP area or something? Whenever Im in there a sinister bell is constantly ringing.(Of course I had my first pvp battle there too)

There's a bell lady that summons other players to fight with you. If you kill her, she doesn't respawn and you don't have to fight PvP anymore

Thanks. Got the cutscene already, but I must have missed that path, unless it only becomes available after you kill Vicar.

Btw, I still have a couple of locked doors in some areas (chapel area right next to a chest, top of the healing church workshop). I assume those doors are unlockable at some point ? Just want to know if I should keep trying.

Yes to the door at thw top of the healing church workshop. For the other door i've no idea, and wonder the same

 

[joecanada]

Yes. The Blade of Mercy cost 40K from the vendor. At the beginning of the game, when you first meet Eileen, you would be lucky to have a few 1000s echoes. As for bosses, Cleric Beast gives 4K, Father Gascoigne 1.8K and Blood-starved Beast 6.6K.

Well you can start with a decent skill build plus cane, then move to blade mercy later... Also riflespear is a great long range compliment I upgraded blade mercy and riflespear

 

[knitoe]

Well you can start with a decent skill build plus cane, then move to blade mercy later... Also riflespear is a great long range compliment I upgraded blade mercy and riflespear

Yes, you can use another weapon while saving up for the Blade of Mercy, but my plan was to have it before killing any bosses. Obviously, that didn't work out very well.

 

[FF Seraphim]

Not available now. FROM asked Teespring to cancel the campaign I believe.

What?!?! Dammit FROM/Sony ya could of made bank from the hardcore fans with such designs...

 

[Onemic]

The Nightmare zones have a sinister bell ringing maiden who summons pvp invaders. If you find and kill her, she won't automatically spawns and pvp stops. Now, if you summon a helper (co-op), the game spawns her and she rings her sinister bell again.

I thought so. Shes in an area that;s inaccessible to me and I have no idea how to reach her. Is Nightmare Frontier an optional area, or is it part of the main quest? Because if it's optional I'll just go back to the Unseen Village, unless the area has some nice phat loot for me to get.

 

[joecanada]

Yeah, none of that is going to work on the defiled version of that boss. The first version is no problem. The defiled version? Problem.

So he has totally new movesets? He doesn't do headswipe, charge, aoe, and fire puke?

 

[Toxi]

There's this one room in Lower Loran layer 2 or 3, on the far side of the big bridge, that has 2 Bell Ringers (=6 respawning, yolo super aggro, red spiders), 2 of those tough werewolves, and a couple other dudes. And only one long hallway to enter/exit the room.

This was the most BS experience in the game. (Have done everything in NG, SL~105 except the Ithyll dungeon past layer 1) And there was no useful loot in the room, whatsoever.

I know which room you're talking about, and it gave me a lot of grief too.

So he has totally new movesets? He doesn't do headswipe, charge, aoe, and fire puke?

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You have half health (So his charge is always a 1 hit kill and everything else is a 2 hit kill) and he has a crap ton more health. The charge also seemed a bit faster, but that could just be me.

 

[Keihart]

On my first playthrough, a frenzy bar would kill me. Below a certain vitality you don't stand a chance!!

Using the anti frenzy rune +200 make any other frenzy resist irrelevant, i didn't even care about the gear with that rune.

 

[knitoe]

I thought so. Shes in an area that;s inaccessible to me and I have no idea how to reach her. Is Nightmare Frontier an optional area, or is it part of the main quest? Because if it's optional I'll just go back to the Unseen Village, unless the area has some nice phat loot for me to get.

Yes, it's optional. In Frontier, she's easy to get to.

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From the lamp, follow the path leading round right pass where the 2 hunters appear, before going into the poison water area, look right, there's a little path up to the maiden, go up and kill her.

 

[Ragingnight]

So he has totally new movesets? He doesn't do headswipe, charge, aoe, and fire puke?

does the same
Generally kills you in a hit

 

[Trevelyan]

So I'm up to SoY and don't think I've come across Eileen once... maybe I did at the very beginning of the game, but don't recall any other times I've seen her. Am I screwed with trying to get the Blade of Mercy?

 

[joecanada]

I know which room you're talking about, and it gave me a lot of grief too.

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You have half health (So his charge is always a 1 hit kill and everything else is a 2 hit kill) and he has a crap ton more health. The charge also seemed a bit faster, but that could just be me.

Ya that sounds crappy. Definitely need enough resistance to survive at least one hit.

Does the coop person need to have the same dungeon or can you summon from any chalice? I hear you need at least sinister short root to be invited lower

 

[Toxi]

So I'm up to SoY and don't think I've come across Eileen once... maybe I did at the very beginning of the game, but don't recall any other times I've seen her. Am I screwed with trying to get the Blade of Mercy?

No, you'll be able to get them no problem. You'll just miss a rune.

 

[Trevelyan]

No, you'll be able to get them no problem. You'll just miss a rune.

Thanks a lot for the reply! I assume I can get them in

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the grand cathedral after I kill rom

?

 

[Sithlord77]

Finally defeated Defiled Amygdala. Was one hell of a fight. Took about 15 attempts. I heard it gets easier from here on with the bosses for the final dungeon to the trophy?

I posted my fight anyway

http://youtu.be/7-MnaLqUq6Q

 

[BoxManLocke]

You need a password, which you got from the cutscene, to contiune that direction. If you're talking about the locked door at the very top by the holy sword badge or whatever it's called, then you will be able to find the key in a later area of the game. It's kinda hard to find so

Spoiler

its in the unseen villiage after you clear the forbidden woods.

Edit: if one of the doors you are talking about is by the chest that gives you a gem by the gaint dude with the wreckin ball, then no that door can not be open.

Yes to the door at thw top of the healing church workshop. For the other door i've no idea, and wonder the same

Thanks guys

The last door I can't open is in the Hypogean Gaol, right of the lamp when you spawn. Since this is a pretty small area I'm quite sure it can't be opened, right ?

 

[MidEvlDed]

So I'm up to SoY and don't think I've come across Eileen once... maybe I did at the very beginning of the game, but don't recall any other times I've seen her. Am I screwed with trying to get the Blade of Mercy?

I messed up too, but there is still a way to get it.

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If you screw up the questline, you can find her in the cathedral where you fought Vicar Amelia I believe. You have to kill her and that gives you the crow hunter badge.

 

[Cess007]

Thanks guys

The last door I can't open is in the Hypogean Gaol, right of the lamp when you spawn. Since this is a pretty small area I'm quite sure it can't be opened, right ?

Yes, but only later in the game (there's actually two doors there, one at the left of the lamp that you can open if you go around the church outside)

 

[Toxi]

Thanks guys

The last door I can't open is in the Hypogean Gaol, right of the lamp when you spawn. Since this is a pretty small area I'm quite sure it can't be opened, right ?

Don't worry, you'll find what's on the other side later on.

 

[figadapaura]

B

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loodletting

B

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east

was altogether much easier than the P

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thumerian

D

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escendant

, but still an asshole. That damn hitbox. Pretty sure I was squashed by his arse on a few occasions.

 

[commish]

Any good maps in this game? I get so confused sometimes. Plus i like maps.

 

[Toxi]

Any good maps in this game? I get so confused sometimes. Plus i like maps.

In-game? Nope. Best you can do is use shining coins to mark where you were.

Out-of-game, there are some good maps online.

 

[LostMyNarbles]

Invading people in the N

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ightmare of Mensis

feels so conflicting. On one hand it's a lot of fun to be PVP'ing like Dark Souls had things arranged, but on the other hand I feel kind of shitty every time I kill somebody. I know if I was progressing through the zone I wouldn't want somebody invading me. :|

 

[figadapaura]

Actually, just fuck those roly-poly bastards. Fuck them.

 

[Toxi]

Actually, just fuck those roly-poly bastards. Fuck them.

 

[Lion Heart]

Yes, but have fun getting the 40K to buy it since even the mobs that give you the most echos, werewolves, only give you like 400ish each. I tried that on a new char, but only to fail because of that. Now, if on NG+, it would be another matter.

I'm in NG so it should be cake. I missed her first play through, I think that savage ate her.

 

[kenta]

I feel like I screwed myself with my build. I put that first fire gem into my saw spear and didn't even think about why Arcane was suddenly the stat that boosted my attacks, so I just kept dumping points into Arcane. Now I'm coming up against bosses that are strong against fire/bolt, so... Now what? Pulling out the elemental gems completely nerfs the saw spear and I don't feel like I have a good alternative. I'd love to get the blades of mercy but that dude in the cathedral is unreal. Not sure what to do if I want to get away from my dependency on elemental gems