Try lower root chalices. Best gem drops I have seen.
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Bloodborne |OT++++| Now with Trusty Patches
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Chaos2Frozen
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I'm standing right in front of the very final area in the game before NG+ and I have-
1) Killed all the optional bosses
2) Gotten all three Covenant runes
3) Finished the little girl's questline
4) Gotten the Blood Rock and the last Moon Rune
5) Revived you-know-who
6) Gotten all the weapons and tools except for the final boss weapon
7) Gotten all the trophies except for the Chalice final boss, and the bloodgem mastery which I can get from the Chalice.
I've only left to get the last cord from you-know-who, is there anything I've left out?
1) Killed all the optional bosses
2) Gotten all three Covenant runes
3) Finished the little girl's questline
4) Gotten the Blood Rock and the last Moon Rune
5) Revived you-know-who
6) Gotten all the weapons and tools except for the final boss weapon
7) Gotten all the trophies except for the Chalice final boss, and the bloodgem mastery which I can get from the Chalice.
I've only left to get the last cord from you-know-who, is there anything I've left out?
My build has 40 skill points and 9 is that good for blade of mercy? I really don't want to make a third build am tired of grinding : (
I recently started doing PvP and have really been enjoying it. I have 39 wins and 8 losses at the moment.
I thought I'd stream for fun: www.twitch.tv/razor_tv
I'm Level 65 and at the Nightmare Frontier now. Hopefully I can go against some of you!
I thought I'd stream for fun: www.twitch.tv/razor_tv
I'm Level 65 and at the Nightmare Frontier now. Hopefully I can go against some of you!
Yeah, I haven't been doing root chalices and I probably should. Would you recommend Cursed and Defiled, Lower Loran, or Great Isz? I'm guessing Great Isz is a bad choice since the majority of the gems I found there were Arcane-based.
Finally beat this last night, the "special" ending.
I noticed a few strange things while playing, and am posting them here to hear some thoughts. Maybe they have been brought up before?
this is where I would normally disregard something as artistic oversight, but considering how detail oriented these games are, and how prominently the moon plays a part in the events, I though this was interesting.
Everyone knows that the moon (or sun) will form a reflection in a direct line of sight from the viewer, like so:
Now in this area, this is clearly not the case. Maybe it's eluding to a "false" moon, or something like that?
I noticed a few strange things while playing, and am posting them here to hear some thoughts. Maybe they have been brought up before?
this is where I would normally disregard something as artistic oversight, but considering how detail oriented these games are, and how prominently the moon plays a part in the events, I though this was interesting.
Everyone knows that the moon (or sun) will form a reflection in a direct line of sight from the viewer, like so:
Now in this area, this is clearly not the case. Maybe it's eluding to a "false" moon, or something like that?
I do this but except after killing the two hulking mobs I go through the house instead of the elevator
1. Go through the house with the guy in a wheelchair and the other dude (may get 2 vials and 4 bullets).
2. Go up the stairs in the house and kill the two guys there (possibly more vials)
3. Walk out the door on the second floor to the bridge where there are two wolves (which sometimes yield 3 vials a piece)
4. Repeat
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I don't doubt that a bit. I'm still working through the chalice dungeons myself.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
lol I just noticed they changed the name to just "Third Umbilical Cord".
Badlucktroll
Member
I need to farm Ritual Blood 3. Any locations?
KittenMaster
Member
Probaly best to have put this in the unmarked story thread, but
I can't say for certain if it was intentional or not but Rom was indeed masking the sky that you see later on in Central Yharnam.
Finally beat this last night, the "special" ending.
I noticed a few strange things while playing, and am posting them here to hear some thoughts. Maybe they have been brought up before?
this is where I would normally disregard something as artistic oversight, but considering how detail oriented these games are, and how prominently the moon plays a part in the events, I though this was interesting.
Everyone knows that the moon (or sun) will form a reflection in a direct line of sight from the viewer, like so:
Now in this area, this is clearly not the case. Maybe it's eluding to a "false" moon, or something like that?
Worse is seeing clouds going behind the moon. Like you said, maybe "false" moon but it looks so weird.
That's just a theory though.
For future bosses try to exploit the regain system for when you get nicked. And study a boss before wasting vials on attempts. It can be awesome to down a boss on the first encounter but I think you'll find it even more satisfying to know how to fight the boss without getting hit much and beating him without having to heal a lot.
I can't stand Trophies/Achievements (working in the gaming industry, doing QA Testing for games and having to earn the same Trophies/Achievements over and over again, every day for months on end kind of kills your interest in them), but it was incredibly satisfying to get the Platinum Trophy for Bloodborne.
What a fantastic game. I only had 7 to get last night, including the Plat, and they were all pretty simple. Even the last trophy I got, which was a fight against (Chalice Dungeon boss) Y
harnam
Doing the Chalice Dungeons really, really gets your skills up to par for the campaign mode. I noticed I improved significantly, especially in the area of Visceral Attacks.
I'm incredibly tempted to start a New Game ++, or a new game with a new character, but I have a huge backlog. This has been an amazing ride, and I am eager for whatever From comes up with next. Maybe I'll go back and beat Dark Souls finally...
Backfoggen
Banned
I died the first time because I didn't realize you had to "find" them. I thought that they only popped up once in a while. So I was fighting the spawns forever and eventually ran out of vials.
Kamina
Golden Boy
It doesnt always look like this in reality. It greatly depends on the angle from which you look into the water.Finally beat this last night, the "special" ending.
I noticed a few strange things while playing, and am posting them here to hear some thoughts. Maybe they have been brought up before?
this is where I would normally disregard something as artistic oversight, but considering how detail oriented these games are, and how prominently the moon plays a part in the events, I though this was interesting.
Everyone knows that the moon (or sun) will form a reflection in a direct line of sight from the viewer, like so:
Now in this area, this is clearly not the case. Maybe it's eluding to a "false" moon, or something like that?
you can farm them in
upper catherdral
I died like 3-4 times because i fucking suck at this game. Believe it or not, this is coming from someone who used to stream no death DS2 runs and have played and beated DS1 so many times i cant even count.
This game is just different for me. Im still not used to the combat. I never feel comfortable attacking to regain health. Hell, just found out yesterday that you can charge an R2 attack for a backstab. I also didnt realize you can be so far away and still get off a parry. Im still learning new things that seem simple. Keep in mind ive avoided all spoilers and refuse to look up guides or watch videos.
I guess im only good at the soul games once I play them multiple times. But BB for me has just taken alot longer and has been more stressful. Its also been discouraging at how bad i am considering I can crush Ds2 and Ds1 so easily.
I just kill some trash then go buy them with blood echoes. They're like, 180 echoes to start, and even later in the game when they're more expensive, you can easily accumulate enough souls after just a few mins of kills where you can stock up easily for several boss fight attempts. Basically if you do this, you'll overstock and the surplus will go into your storage, which will replenish your inventory as full every time you rez at a lamp after you die
I had the same issue with
Micolash
It depends what gems you want. You can get an idea with the below link.
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Blood+Gems
I have tempering damp blood gems of 20.3/18.0/20.3
EDIT:
I found a +20.3 in pthumeru Ihyll root FYI.
ScottSullivan
Member
Do we know how much bloodtinge effects the damage on visceral attacks?
super-famicom
Member
Bloodborne is a different beast from Souls games. There is a beginner's guide in the OP by VaatiVidya that is non-spoilery and goes over game mechanics. You say that you refuse to watch videos though, so I guess you can just read the tutorial messages in Hunter's Dream and maybe look at the digital manual online.
Reposting. Hope the knowledge is out there somewhere.
william_557
Member
Got to Castle Cainhurst last night andis one tough bastard. I found myself out of vials before he even got to half health once, which was a first ever for me on a boss. Love this area of the game though! Atmosphere is fantastic!Martyr Logarius
So hard stuck on this boss atm just grinding a few levels to help
Elysium-777
Member
Managed to stun-parry the K
to death in the Defiled chalice. He didn't even get a chance to buff his sword. it was nice.
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super-famicom
Member
That boss is optional, unless you want to access
chalice dungeons and unlock the elevator to the healing church workshop
blood cocktails to distract it. That gives you a chance to unload on it and maybe get a backstab/visceral. Equipping Father G or Black Church Attire will help with the poison
BaronLundi
Member
I enjoyed that.
C'était câlicement drôle!
Definitely don't make threads for those though
Yup, currently level 76 and I'm hurting in this area lol. Ran out of blood vials completely too which is also a first. A lot of firsts for me in this area haha.
When BSB pauses facing towards you, it's going to pounce, so move out of the way. Stay on the boss's left side/behind it and don't try going for visceral attacks, just hit and run. Wear poison resistant gear (Black Church set is great, Father Gascoigne set is also good) so you take less poison damage during the last part of the fight. Try to end the last part of the fight as quickly as possible.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Do you fight BSB in the defiled dungeon or is he just in the Ailing Loran?
Dem skillz
Nice job bro.
Dem skillz
Nice job bro.
Poison resist and spam R2 for a cheap and easy fight. When he gets his poison AOE start using urn + molotovs. If you don't have those attack then back out and wait for the poison to fall off a bit.
Thanks, didn't know blood cocktails worked. I know BSB is optional but I just wanted to try to do all the bosses. I could come back later with a more upgraded weapon I guess, but if I have problems with BSB I see myself going crazy with stuff like Ebrietas lol
FreeQuebec86
Member
I enjoyed that.
C'était câlicement drôle!
Definitely don't make threads for those though
Haha thx man!
And noted, it took me time to get that OT = Official Thread lol.
He actually gets stuck in that dual attack backstep loop. You can even not visceral him and just hack him up. It usually happens when he is in one of the corners. I killed him with that exact loop and it was just a hack-a-thon until he died. This loop also prevents his buff, as you noticed.
EDIT:
Tip, you dash at him after the backstep to keep him stuck in the loop.
Elysium-777
Member
You're right that it doesn't always look like this, but the issue is with the position of the moon to the angle of the water surface, and then to the viewer.
In the screenshot, that is not physically possible. The light source and it's reflection are always in alignment when bouncing off a flat water surface towards the viewer. There may be some choppiness to the water that will make the reflection more or less blurry, but they'll always be in alignment.
some examples
go from witches abode through the gate. kill the three big axe weilding dudes and the brick dude and anybody else who gets in your way. then either die or pop a bold hunter's mark.
bargeparty
Member
Pretty sure it's a "she," just sayin'
Laurentius
Member
The Miyazaki interview in the official guide is excellent. Here's some of the most interesting things from it (some possible spoilers, so tagging it just in case):
There's even more stuff in there, but that was some of the more interesting bits. I highly recommend the guide, it's really great.
* Miyazaki spends only about 20% of his time on his presidential duties
* Nobody thought Demon's or Dark Souls would succeed. Given their success, this helped the Bloodborne development in various ways, although gives extra pressure to the team.
* From has a "balance" team, and Miyazaki has not worked closely with the balance on the game
* They did playtesting, but he makes it clear that they don't just blindly follow people's suggestions. The game is definitely not "designed by focus group".
* Chalice dungeons weren't inspired by roguelike games, but rather as a way to keep that sense of discovery when you're in a new area after you've completed the game.
* He says the Wooden Shield becomes more important the more times you play through the game. (...wat?)
* Miyazaki loves reading people's theories about the stories in his games
* There's some *really* interesting stuff about whether or not everything in the game is a dream or not. (e.g., are places like Central Yharnam based in reality, or are they all just part of the nightmare?) He says that it was absolutely deliberate to leave that question in player's minds.
* They talk about the fine line of just letting "anything happen" if you are in a dream world, which could reduce enjoyment in the game. He says they were careful not to make it feel like anything could pop up at any time. (So even if it's a dream, it seems to be rooted in reality somehow. And this part wasn't in the interview, but in the Lovecraftian mythos dreams are often seen as another plane of reality. So even if it is all a dream, that doesn't make it "not real" in the game's story.)
* He talks a bit about the Gothic -> "Cthulu-style" (Lovecraftian) horror themes. The Gothic style is depicted from the start because it's more based in reality, which allows it to be eroded away by the Lovecraftian horror the further you get in the game.
* He pretty much confirms that Iosefka gets turned into the blue monster that drops the Iosefka's Vial
* He likes the character of Fake Iosefka a lot, even calling her "one of the heroines of the game". She follows the "scholarly investigator" trope, which he likes a lot. (Freke, Logan, etc.)
* Miyazaki thinks he's not very good at charecterization
* The sky is "Paleblood" because it's a pale blue, like a body that's been drained of blood
* There are multiple possible interpretations of Paleblood. For example, it's also another name for the Moon Presence.
* He says every other game he makes is inscrutable and interpretive, and the next is easier to understand. (According to him: Armored Core 4: hard to understand, For Answer: easier to understand, Demon's Souls: harder, Dark Souls: easier, Bloodborne: harder.)
* He finds something beautiful in dismalness, lack of salvation, and insanity
* Babies are offered as lures to the Great Ones because they all lose their children due to their "position"
* The Great Ones have fewer offspring because of how advanced they are. He says more advanced societies have lower birthrates.
* Threaded Cane is his favorite weapon, which is why it's priced higher. (Says they are playing favorites.)
* He says that ignoring gameplay, Rom is his favorite boss. He says he likes her plaintive air and the cute aspects of her movement.
* He's jealous of people that are scared of the dark
* The harder you try to resist beasthood, the more extreme of a beast you will become. (He says it's like a recoil effect.) This explains, for example, why clerics became the most fearsome beasts
* He's quite fond of Patches. He mentions that there are a lot of other "spider man" creatures in the game that have all gone insane. But he loves the fact that Patches maintains his sanity and continues his research.
* Miyazaki names everything in his games (except the titles).
* He says he personally laid out all of the maps in Bloodborne. (I'm unsure how much that actually entail -- i.e., did he just do a general overview of each area, or was he sitting there mapping out all of the shortcuts and everything?)
* Nobody thought Demon's or Dark Souls would succeed. Given their success, this helped the Bloodborne development in various ways, although gives extra pressure to the team.
* From has a "balance" team, and Miyazaki has not worked closely with the balance on the game
* They did playtesting, but he makes it clear that they don't just blindly follow people's suggestions. The game is definitely not "designed by focus group".
* Chalice dungeons weren't inspired by roguelike games, but rather as a way to keep that sense of discovery when you're in a new area after you've completed the game.
* He says the Wooden Shield becomes more important the more times you play through the game. (...wat?)
* Miyazaki loves reading people's theories about the stories in his games
* There's some *really* interesting stuff about whether or not everything in the game is a dream or not. (e.g., are places like Central Yharnam based in reality, or are they all just part of the nightmare?) He says that it was absolutely deliberate to leave that question in player's minds.
* They talk about the fine line of just letting "anything happen" if you are in a dream world, which could reduce enjoyment in the game. He says they were careful not to make it feel like anything could pop up at any time. (So even if it's a dream, it seems to be rooted in reality somehow. And this part wasn't in the interview, but in the Lovecraftian mythos dreams are often seen as another plane of reality. So even if it is all a dream, that doesn't make it "not real" in the game's story.)
* He talks a bit about the Gothic -> "Cthulu-style" (Lovecraftian) horror themes. The Gothic style is depicted from the start because it's more based in reality, which allows it to be eroded away by the Lovecraftian horror the further you get in the game.
* He pretty much confirms that Iosefka gets turned into the blue monster that drops the Iosefka's Vial
* He likes the character of Fake Iosefka a lot, even calling her "one of the heroines of the game". She follows the "scholarly investigator" trope, which he likes a lot. (Freke, Logan, etc.)
* Miyazaki thinks he's not very good at charecterization
* The sky is "Paleblood" because it's a pale blue, like a body that's been drained of blood
* There are multiple possible interpretations of Paleblood. For example, it's also another name for the Moon Presence.
* He says every other game he makes is inscrutable and interpretive, and the next is easier to understand. (According to him: Armored Core 4: hard to understand, For Answer: easier to understand, Demon's Souls: harder, Dark Souls: easier, Bloodborne: harder.)
* He finds something beautiful in dismalness, lack of salvation, and insanity
* Babies are offered as lures to the Great Ones because they all lose their children due to their "position"
* The Great Ones have fewer offspring because of how advanced they are. He says more advanced societies have lower birthrates.
* Threaded Cane is his favorite weapon, which is why it's priced higher. (Says they are playing favorites.)
* He says that ignoring gameplay, Rom is his favorite boss. He says he likes her plaintive air and the cute aspects of her movement.
* He's jealous of people that are scared of the dark
* The harder you try to resist beasthood, the more extreme of a beast you will become. (He says it's like a recoil effect.) This explains, for example, why clerics became the most fearsome beasts
* He's quite fond of Patches. He mentions that there are a lot of other "spider man" creatures in the game that have all gone insane. But he loves the fact that Patches maintains his sanity and continues his research.
* Miyazaki names everything in his games (except the titles).
* He says he personally laid out all of the maps in Bloodborne. (I'm unsure how much that actually entail -- i.e., did he just do a general overview of each area, or was he sitting there mapping out all of the shortcuts and everything?)
There's even more stuff in there, but that was some of the more interesting bits. I highly recommend the guide, it's really great.
KittenMaster
Member
Interesting. There may be some hidden mechanic affecting its poise/damage reduction on block.
EDIT:
Patches was secretly the biggest bro in Dark Souls and the one character that was ironically the most sane in the end so this doesn't surprise me.
Laurentius
Member
He said "disregarding gameplay". From a visual design perspective I think Rom is great.
I'm not surprised. It's not my favorite (that's Ebrietas) but I like Rom a lot.
Edit: When I finished typing, Rom's music started lol.
Laurentius
Member
I think it may have also been a bit of classic Miyazaki trolling...