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[DoubleTake]

Btw, with my Moonlight Sword build, right not at 25STR/25ARC/12SKL, I get way more transformed R1 damage leveling up SKL than ARC, despite the scalings.

This weapon is such an investment of levels to take out the most of it ._.

Yea had to push my level to 120 to get the most out of it.

Youre getting more damage by leveling up skill because youve reached the soft cap in Str already and will start to get diminished returns.

The way the MLGS works is in 1 hand mode its mostly Pure Physical damage. In 2 hand mode regular attacks are a split between Physical and Arcane scaling. The R2s however scale completely off of Arcane.

 

[robotzombie]

anyone have a cheap method of getting the rakuyo?

 

[Akiyama_AE]

anyone have a cheap method of getting the rakuyo?

try to summon and take turns backstabbing those dolphins ain't don't play around

 

[DoubleTake]

I guess it is NG+, I was saying NG this whole time but NG refers to first playthrough, ya? Fuck.

Side note, what new weapons do you guys recommend for a) Skill users and b) overall best new weapon?

I can't afford to level up all of them to experiment but they are useless on NG+ without leveling up.

The Beasthunter Saif has a sick moveset, also the

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Rakuyo

which you find late in the DLC.

I hate the latter though because the hitboxes are a bit absurd in PVP.

 

[Krusenstern]

anyone have a cheap method of getting the rakuyo?

Either by bringing a shitload of bullets with you and figure out their parry windows or by summoning two hunters for jolly slaughtering.

 

[Vire]

anyone have a cheap method of getting the rakuyo?

Bring shaman blades with you, sneak up behind the first shark fucker and stab it in the back. (You have to be real close). Then whittle it down to half health by being aggressive and don't stop swinging. Once you get to half health, the second one will drop down, run up to the first one and stab again with a shaman blade since the effect wears off. They will now attack each other for a bit, as its wearing off, lunge in and do a sweeping attack that hits both to finish them off.

That's how I did it at least.

 

[Donos]

Sorry, just realized I had to share it. You should be able to see it now.

k,searching (by the first lamp). Although i'm only in layer 1 starting lamp. Hope i don't have to fight till layer 3.

 

[drotahorror]

Got all the trophies. Didn't think I could do it honestly. Got about 15 levels and went back to L and the 2 fools in the well. Haven't fought either in over a day. 1 shot L and 2 shot the well.

For the well I just parried the thing like 3x and and wailed on him as he walked over to the other, then shaman bone blade finally went off (first time I had actually got it to work vs them, and actually the only time i had used the item) and they literally killed each other at the same time.

 

[Fancy Clown]

Basically always when they're just about to finish the strike. Was pretty much impossible to parry the anchor giants without getting hit as well.

But one thing that helped me killing the two shark/frog giants in the well (fi

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shing

h

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amlet

) is by finding out you can parry them even when they leap towards you, that sliding charge you're speaking of. That crazy leap where they almost crawl pretty fast into your direction. Somewhere more than halfway of that leap lies a parry window.

Thanks, I'll give it a go. Just have the well and optional boss to go and then I'm done with the DLC :'(

 

[myco666]

I guess it is NG+, I was saying NG this whole time but NG refers to first playthrough, ya? Fuck.

Side note, what new weapons do you guys recommend for a) Skill users and b) overall best new weapon?

I can't afford to level up all of them to experiment but they are useless on NG+ without leveling up.

Church Pick would be my pick for Skill build. Best moveset IMO. Close second is Saif. You can also test them without upgrading. Just go to area with easy enemies and try out the moveset.

 

[Cloud Strife]

Bring shaman blades with you, sneak up behind the first shark fucker and stab it in the back. (You have to be real close). Then whittle it down to half health by being aggressive and don't stop swinging. Once you get to half health, the second one will drop down, run up to the first one and stab again with a shaman blade since the effect wears off. They will now attack each other for a bit, as its wearing off, lunge in and do a sweeping attack that hits both to finish them off.

That's how I did it at least.

This. There will be a moment when you get the first anchor fucker down to half health and he will start to walk away from you to where his friend is hiding on the ceiling. Time it so that as soon as the second one falls down, you are right next to the anchor fucker to use the Shaman Blade.

They will have a great time using their bullshit moveset on each other and you can wail away at them. Take advantage and try to get both of their health down equally so that when the effect wears off, you can kill one with a hit or two and the last one will have low health as well.

Simple.

 

[J-Skee]

k,searching (by the first lamp). Although i'm only in layer 1 starting lamp. Hope i don't have to fight till layer 3.

Okay, cool. I'll just be sitting here, Indian style.

 

[Donos]

Okay, cool. I'll just be sitting here, Indian style.

check PM for further interactions to not derail thread.

 

[Phoenix944]

k,searching (by the first lamp). Although i'm only in layer 1 starting lamp. Hope i don't have to fight till layer 3.

Hmm I think you need to be on the same layer. I've tried with a friend 2 days ago, and we couldn't play together if we weren't on the same floor...

 

[Melchiah]

You should get to Mensis pretty easily and you can farm there even faster if you even need to considering the amount of Echoes you get from ToR and M. As for the recommended level you should atleast try it with lvl65 before being 'annoyed' about it. You might consider the area to be easy/decently balanced around that level. Lot of people have played this game last time when they beat it in March/April so no wonder they have hard time coming back when the enemies and bosses are way harder in the DLC than in the main game.

I agree though that they could have informed little bit more about what they recommend you to have when entering the DLC.

Yeah, I'll be doing that, and returning to the DLC before killing MWN at Mensis, and after getting the gems in the Winter Lantern bridge. I might try it even before that to see how it goes. Just to be sure, there's nothing in the main game that affects the DLC, including entering the

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burning dream

phase?

I haven't had such a long pause before the release of DLC, as I cleared the Defiled chalice in August, and proceeded towards a third playthrough after that. Although, when I returned to the game, I noticed that I often accidentally pressed square instead of X, and ended up using items for nothing. Dunno why. =)

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

anyone have a cheap method of getting the rakuyo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wybroWzTQNA

I did this on my second attempt. It helps it use the monocular and throwing knifes at first to get fishy's attention.

edit: I used the hunter's R2FTW mode. The second one cant reach as well since it lacks a weapon.

 

[xxRONN1Nxx]

This DLC is great!! I had 150 hours in original game and I'm probably gonna put many more hours because this DLC. I've made some many friends now on psn through GAF. Gaffers unite been so much fun meeting and chatting in party with guys I've only read on this forum.

 

[Akiyama_AE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49VqnwKuBm8 Was listening to this when I was fighting a certain boss I was surprised of how well it went with the pace of the fight.

 

[sam777]

For those in UK/Europe does the game of the year edition have the dlc on disc or via a code in the box?

Thanks.

 

[Donos]

Good luck J-Kee, sorry that it didn't work out.

 

[Draper]

It's been a while since I've jumped into BB- I think I'm on NG++(+?) at this point.

How fucked am I if I buy this DLC?

 

[xxRONN1Nxx]

It's been a while since I've jumped into BB- I think I'm on NG++(+?) at this point.

How fucked am I if I buy this DLC?

I started it on NG++++ at lvl 165. It's been tough but doable

 

[Akiyama_AE]

anyone doing any bosses I could use the souls.

 

[xxRONN1Nxx]

anyone doing any bosses I could use the souls.

I'm farming chalices if you wanna join

 

[Auctopus]

Living Failures is easily the worst boss in the entire game.

 

[sn00zer]

Living Failures is easily the worst boss in the entire game.

Ehh its fun in coop as you both run around taking on individual guys. Ludwig was far less enjoyable

 

[Draper]

I started it on NG++++ at lvl 165. It's been tough but doable

Alright...in I go.

GAF...I'm going to need your help.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

whew. laurence down on first try today on ng3. struggled a bit last night. had to summon valtr, tho

 

[Fancy Clown]

Ehh its fun in coop as you both run around taking on individual guys. Ludwig was far less enjoyable

Ludwig's the best boss in the game

 

[GIANKRATOS]

Part 9,

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research hall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKGRduM-KmI

This place is beautiful, it's like 10 times better than

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duke's archive

imho

 

[Vire]

Part 9,

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research hall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKGRduM-KmI

This place is beautiful, it's like 10 times better than

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duke's archive

imho

Considering Dukes Archive might be the least fun area in all of Dark Souls.... Yeah not hard to beat.

 

[Fancy Clown]

Part 9,

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research hall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKGRduM-KmI

This place is beautiful, it's like 10 times better than

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duke's archive

imho

Definitely the high point in the DLC for me, and one of the best areas in all of Bloodborne.

 

[Donos]

Living Failures is easily the worst boss in the entire game.

if you mean boring, yeah. Like Celestial Emissary.

 

[Fhtagn]

Ludwig's the best boss in the game

I wouldn't go that far but top tier for me alongside Ebrietas, Martyr,

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Gherman

, OoK, BSB (at low level), Maria...

Living Failures is basically

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Celestial emissaries crossed with the Four Kings

and it was easy as heck on my run but I still enjoyed it.

 

[Akiyama_AE]

I'm farming chalices if you wanna join

whats the number

 

[Draper]

I can't even tell if the DLC activated/was downloaded.

Is there any indication?

 

[AzureFlame]

Damn just finished everything in this DLC on NG+6... what a ride.

 

[Fhtagn]

I can't even tell if the DLC activated/was downloaded.

Is there any indication?

Do you have version 7 on the menu page?

The DLC content was downloaded with it.

 

[ScribbleD]

Considering Dukes Archive might be the least fun area in all of Dark Souls.... Yeah not hard to beat.

Lost Izalith would like a word with you.

 

[Fancy Clown]

I wouldn't go that far but top tier for me alongside Ebrietas, Martyr,

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Gherman

, OoK, BSB (at low level), Maria...

Living Failures is basically

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Celestial emissaries crossed with the Four Kings

and it was easy as heck on my run but I still enjoyed it.

Yeah, I enjoyed the Living Failure fight. Not for the mechanics of the fight itself, which are obviously very basic, but the story, setting, music, and

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the cosmos attack

made it pretty cool. Plus it's an easy fluff boss right before the actual boss of the area, which is amazing.

 

[Akiyama_AE]

which fights did everyone solo and didn't solo in the DLC for me I solo'd

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Ludwig

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Living Failures

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Lady Maria

had to get back up for

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Orphan of Kos

and still stuck on

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Laurence

 

[kurahadol]

which fights did everyone solo and didn't solo in the DLC for me I solo'd

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Ludwig

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Living Failures

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Lady Maria

had to get back up for

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Orphan of Kos

and still stuck on

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Laurence

Only boss I had to get help on was

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Laurence

because that son of a bitch was just straight up unfun

 

[HORRORSHØW]

fists of gratia worthless?

 

[Fancy Clown]

which fights did everyone solo and didn't solo in the DLC for me I solo'd

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Ludwig

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Living Failures

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Lady Maria

had to get back up for

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Orphan of Kos

and still stuck on

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Laurence

Solo'd all of them thus far. Only have the optional boss left and attempted him twice so far. He doesn't seem nearly as hard as the others (besides the second boss obvi).

 

[Fhtagn]

which fights did everyone solo and didn't solo in the DLC for me I solo'd

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Ludwig

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Living Failures

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Lady Maria

had to get back up for

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Orphan of Kos

and still stuck on

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Laurence

I soloed everything, but I did a bunch of co-op against the first boss to learn the patterns first and I had to resort to watching a video of someone beating the optional boss so that I could figure out the second phase pattern after about 4 hours across a couple days of failing to beat it on my own.

I was pretty high level in NG+ though. I'm going to try soloing them all again in NG at Lvl 70 or so.

 

[AlphaDragoon]

Side note, what new weapons do you guys recommend for a) Skill users and b) overall best new weapon?

IMO, Rakuyo is the king for Skill builds. It's fast, powerful, extremely diverse moveset, and can be buffed by Fire/Bolt Papers or Empty Phantasm Shell.

Overall, I'm hearing Whirligig Saw might be king of the ring due to insane damage output with Beast Blood Pellets.

 

[Neoweee]

which fights did everyone solo and didn't solo in the DLC for me I solo'd

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Ludwig

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Living Failures

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Lady Maria

had to get back up for

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Orphan of Kos

and still stuck on

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Laurence

Solo'ed everything on a fresh character.

I've never summoned help for my first kill against any boss in the entire series, and I'm sure not going to start now.

 

[Akiyama_AE]

Only boss I had to get help on was

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Laurence

because that son of a bitch was just straight up unfun

this fuck him what a shitty dick.

 

[darkslayer101]

guys quick question.

So I am trying to farm Blood chunks and i have decided to go the glyph route.

Problem is i forgot how to create cursed isz chalice dungeon. I have the great isz chalice but not the cursed one. So how do i go about creating a cursed one?

 

[Phoenix944]

Living Failures is easily the worst boss in the entire game.

It was a nice break after L

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udwig

and a cool warm up before M

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aria