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Bloodborne: The Old Hunters |OT| Old Hunters. New Tricks, Bells & Whistles.
- Thread starter Robot Pants
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sammyCYBORG
Member
I finished the game again and got up to level 88 before I started it.
Felt like the right time and was still tough.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Managed to beat Maria on my first try in my NG+ run of The Old Hunters. Was surprised because I kept hearing how hard she was. It was a close fight, for sure. Was down to like 4 blood vials at the end.
I still think the hunter in the Grand Cathedral that you have to fight as part of Eileen's quest is the hardest humanoid hunter enemy I've faced yet.
I still think the hunter in the Grand Cathedral that you have to fight as part of Eileen's quest is the hardest humanoid hunter enemy I've faced yet.
Persona RS
Member
The minimum recommended level to start the DLC is level 65.
Theman2k
Member
Thanks a lot!
Manged to finish the lower hitertomb.
but that Abhorrent Beast in the loran chalice is kicking my ass
Orochinagis
Member
mmm? later in a lamp room is a path that makes you go back to the other side of that place
She's a strange one, either you consider her super hard or super easy.
Orochinagis
Member
Some people tend to treat her as a Boss status. Maria is just and average Hunter NPC who can be easily parried or staggered.but with long range attacks and augmented damage because DLC.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
She was definitely easy to parry, but that last phase was brutal for me.
Even in the last phase if you corner her and have a fast weapon she becomes nothing. Blades of Mercy and high endurance destroy her.
I'm talking about a locked door that in cathedral ward takes you to the entrance of the forbidden woods... Here is locked and haven't found how to open it.
She's hard if you're not that good at timing your dodges and parrying. She's easy if you are.
BTW, if you are routing via an AV receiver, I highly recommend instead routing straight to TV and then have it send audio to the AV receiver. I recently changed this and noticed a big difference in input lag (fuck my Denon receiver!).
Orochinagis
Member
Oh, the graveyard, you cant acces that door as far as I remember, there are rocks blocking the path anyway
Yeah the graveyard sorry
thanks!Where are you fellow hunter? It depends where you are? I just played like 6 pvp rounds in hunter's nightmare and helped killing ludwing twice...
what am I supposed to do when all my ritual alters are full ?
i can remove but it will erase all progress and materials used to make it.
what happen if i'll want to make the same chalice again ? find the materials all over again?
You keep the Chalice item. You lose the blood/mould. Most of that stuff is really easy to get though.
Also just noticed Blood Rocks can be bought with 60 insight and chunks dropped to 20. That's pretty sweet.
sammyCYBORG
Member
I've been summoning people easily for the last several days. Sometimes it takes 10 mins but I always find someone.
Not helpful for you I know, check your network settings in the game is set to worldwide?
Sanctuary
Member
I hope that Dark Souls 3 ends up being better balanced than this. At least once the inevitable DLC arrives anyway. This isn't necessarily a complaint about The Old Hunters, but the balancing on it seems rather skewed. Unlike Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2, the DLC weapons and enemies are far from balanced with the main game (Artorias could have its spikes, but it wasn't like this).
It's been recommended to be at least level 65 before trying the content in this. However, level doesn't seem to matter as much as having +6 - +10 weapons with some of the best gems you can get from the main game/Chalice Dungeons. The enemies are ridiculous damage sponges that make it feel like even the heavy hitting weapons (+6 at least) are just doing the needle-prick damage of the Threaded Cane unupgraded, while the enemies hit you for 30% - 50% health per hit. Yeah, there's always trying to parry. When the game actually allows it. The circular, horizontal or diagonal swipes done by the early hunter enemies seems entirely random as for what the parry window is. Or there's some kind of resistance to it that I don't know about. Anyway, it just kind of seems like the enemies are NG+ or NG++ in difficulty by default.
You suffer through that for a little bit, and then you can grab the Beast Cutter. Still doesn't really help with that area much, but it's extremely strong for vanilla areas. Then, a few minutes later you can become one with the power of the pizza. Some people were complaining about how broken Ludwig's was for PvE, yet this thing just owns it in almost every conceivable way in vanilla content. No thrust attack, but so what?
Again, I just hope they do a better balancing job with the Dark Souls 3 main game to DLC, since it seems like it's going for a Darkborne style anyway.
It's been recommended to be at least level 65 before trying the content in this. However, level doesn't seem to matter as much as having +6 - +10 weapons with some of the best gems you can get from the main game/Chalice Dungeons. The enemies are ridiculous damage sponges that make it feel like even the heavy hitting weapons (+6 at least) are just doing the needle-prick damage of the Threaded Cane unupgraded, while the enemies hit you for 30% - 50% health per hit. Yeah, there's always trying to parry. When the game actually allows it. The circular, horizontal or diagonal swipes done by the early hunter enemies seems entirely random as for what the parry window is. Or there's some kind of resistance to it that I don't know about. Anyway, it just kind of seems like the enemies are NG+ or NG++ in difficulty by default.
You suffer through that for a little bit, and then you can grab the Beast Cutter. Still doesn't really help with that area much, but it's extremely strong for vanilla areas. Then, a few minutes later you can become one with the power of the pizza. Some people were complaining about how broken Ludwig's was for PvE, yet this thing just owns it in almost every conceivable way in vanilla content. No thrust attack, but so what?
Again, I just hope they do a better balancing job with the Dark Souls 3 main game to DLC, since it seems like it's going for a Darkborne style anyway.
I've been getting nonstop hits, which is curious because I feel like my level is kinda high.
Do you need help?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You can grab quite a few weapons before the first boss! Just do a few suicide runs.
Sigh, it is now...... Thanks.
sammyCYBORG
Member
No problem. Hope it helps, but like I said expect to wait a bit in certain areas still
Normally it's fine. Rough right at the moment though. Thankfully if you need help the NPC summons can hold their own pretty well.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Just for comparison I'm on NG+ with a Chikage that can do 570 AR in bloodied form and 370 in normal form (average gems). I felt like I had the perfect damage output against bosses and enemies. Enough so the fight did not seem impossible and not too much such that I could relax at any moment. A bigger problem I would say is how much damage these enemies can dish, although I am playing on NG+. The only boss who made me feel inadequate was
Laurence
If you are playing NG I reckon a 400 AR is all you need with some decent vitality (30).
I like that the DLC is especially tough, and this is coming from someone who has died scores of times against the bosses and even certain enemies.
I agree that Ludwig and Whirlig are overpowered in PvE. I think its their staggering capability. Makes it to easy for the player to just swing blindly.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Grants you eyes! Insight used to summon players or buy items from the messenger bath.
darkslayer101
Member
guys quick question regarding gems...
So i have both chikage and lost chikage and plan to make one of them a rapid poison build and other bloodtinge. It seems my regular chikage has far more blood damage compared to lost even with the 30.5 blt gem, so should make lost my poison build?
So i have both chikage and lost chikage and plan to make one of them a rapid poison build and other bloodtinge. It seems my regular chikage has far more blood damage compared to lost even with the 30.5 blt gem, so should make lost my poison build?
LowParry
Member
Neat. So is there restrictions when you summon people? This is all pretty overwhelming right now. lol - I have the first boss killed at least.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
You should have he beckoning bell. Check the messenger bath above the one to your left. I would recommend buying the small bell or whatever it's called. That will let you be summon to other player's world. It cost 1 insight for you to summon a player to your world. Doesn't cost anything to be summon to another player's world.
The cooper will have his stats reduce to be similar to your stats. And gain 1/2 of the rewards for a boss kill. You can only summon f the area boss is alive.
Edit: might have miss a few things since I am on mobile.
Goddamn! Just fought BSB on NG++ with the Pizza Cutter, fire paper, and Alfred for some reason, and it was absolutely trivial. The destruction the L2 move causes is comical at times. This weapon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeiksE0Q3XY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeiksE0Q3XY
omnislayer
Member
No, they carry over and don't get any kind of difficulty boost.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Nope they stay the same for each playthrough!
Thanks. I was pretty certain that's how it worked but I wanted to make sure.
Shifty Capone1
Member
This may be frowned upon, but I just got BB and the DLC. Fantastic so far, however I have always loved, honestly, cheating in these games. Always played souls games on PC offline. I don't want to do anything online at all. Is there a way to downgrade the version or get unlimited blood echoes with the DLC? I just want the freedom to do what I want, 100% offline. Wouldn't downgrading or never updating (turning off auto updates) be the best route?
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Not that I know about.
Any excuse to plug our own video again - much quicker than an hour: https://youtu.be/XlRG3Tjx2p8
A bottomless curse, a bottomless sea. All that there is and can be... a.k.a. the second ending in the main game where
you become Gehrman and the Hunt begins all over again. The cycle continues and there's no way to stop it
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Ah, the things that are okay in Bloodborne but make DS2 the worst game, lol.
I know you fixed your network setting but also you might be over or under levelled for the area?
I don't know what it is you're trying to do exactly, but you can't play the DLC without the latest patch so....
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
So I've heard you can buy bloodrocks with insight. This pleases me.
DoubleTake
Member
The lost chikage should always do more blood damage...Check you dont have your gems switched up. 27.2, 27.2 and 30.5 should be better than 3x27.2 on a normal Chikage.
You do realize constantly bringing up these comparisons only perpetuates the debate? Also ive never heard of anyone complain about enemies not being able to be interrupted from "Hyper Armor" attacks in Dark Souls 2. All big enemies have poise so its easy to know what enemies cant be interrupted.
In BB its harder to tell because nothing has poise so its all hyper armor. All enemies can be staggered out of Hyper Armor if you hit them with a big enough weapon/attack or if you hit them in quick enough succession. Isnt rocket science.
DoubleTake
Member
Dodge forward into his attacks except for the long delayed swipe. You know the one that always hits you? lol Also for the delayed jump; Run in a straight line towards he side of the room with the most space so you dont run out. Dont roll just run, youll never get hit. For the second phase, dont dodge backwards but around, and manage your stamina.