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Bloodborne: The Old Hunters |OT| Old Hunters. New Tricks, Bells & Whistles.
- Thread starter Robot Pants
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I don't know if it's because I haven't been sleeping great this week or if it's because my DLC character is one that is using a weapon I have slightly less experience with, but I'm just getting slaughtered by the first boss. Doesn't help that his first form is like the worst parts of Amelia and Ebrietas combined, two bosses my brain just refuses to wrap itself around for some reason. I spent all last night patiently running from the nearest lamp to the fight to die and learn just a little bit more. I must've died at least 20 times by now. I blazed through the content up to this point, so this roadblock is definitely surprising.
That said, I do enjoy the fight. My mood in the fight reminds me a lot of the first time I crossed swords with the Lost Sinner in Dark Souls 2: Died over and over, but enjoyed the battle so much it didn't make me mad at all. I will be overjoyed when I finally bring this guy down, but also a little sad because the duel will finally be over.
That said, I do enjoy the fight. My mood in the fight reminds me a lot of the first time I crossed swords with the Lost Sinner in Dark Souls 2: Died over and over, but enjoyed the battle so much it didn't make me mad at all. I will be overjoyed when I finally bring this guy down, but also a little sad because the duel will finally be over.
Yeah, I killed couple of the hunters at the start (trying arcane build with fire ludwig's) and it's just taking so long per hunter that it doesn't feel a good use of my time. I'll probably hop to do Shadows and maybe Rom just so I can get some more bloods fast.
Arjen
Member
Heh. I had him in 5 tries. Still struggling with the last boss.
I'm on NG++ and I've been through all the chalice dungeons with a fully upgraded weapon and I've never had weapons break clearing any of the areas like they are now. It's not just in the DLC area but the vanilla areas too.
Already mentioned but i used ign's strategy to defeat
I know it's kinda cheesy but it gets the job done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7lSQVL6L0
kos.
I know it's kinda cheesy but it gets the job done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7lSQVL6L0
I jumped in after Rom and it was challenging, but doable. Well, up to getting to the boss anyway. But I covered that in my post above. I just suck at him.
doing the DLC in ng+, the first boss was great. and HARD, I have a bloodtinge build and I was barely doing any damage.
didn't work even if I did that, had to exit the game. wasn't even the first time
Weird. I am repairing my stuff all the time though so that is why I haven't noticed them breaking easily.
edit.
Get Vit and your damage stat up to 50 and get some good gems. +20% more or less a must.
I went into this first area/boss in NG+ at level 111 and it was an absolute shit show :lol
Right now I'm just farming echoes in the 2nd Floor Lecture Building. I'm up to 125 now but I don't even think that's enough tbh.
The perfect Dark
Banned
I'm level 140 and it's the same, so....no.
Finally beat
. It really REALLY helps to not lock-on for that fight. It makes his moves way easier to see. His second form is really annoying but you can cheese it if you keep your distance and bait out his fire breath and his single arm swing from his small arm. I also don't recommend using the Blades of Mercy for this fight like I did. Its short range can be detrimental. He's easily the hardest boss in the game now, he makes Ebrietas look like a cake walk.
Laurence
I can't play again until tonight, but I was just thinking. Location spoilers: Anyone else disappointed with
how the research building looked with the addition of the green lamps? They weren't in any of the pre-release trailers and made it look worse than the original reveal imo.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Have you checked your gems arent, cursed - durability - 1000
Red Liquorice
Member
So the attack that
does which covers the entire boss room, there's a safe spot from that? lol I thought I was safe being on the complete opposite end of the boss room - NOPE!
Ludwig
I was at 109 when I beat him. He's definitely one of the most challenging bosses in the entire game so don't be suprised dying to him a lot. You really have to focus on his attacks. What's your strength? Mine was in the low 40s when I was in that fight. It's a longer fight so expect to use all of your blood vials.
It's towards the end of that area. There's a path that leads to the final boss and a path that diverges from it to the blood rock.
Assuming you're talking about the really large
charged sword attack? Keep strafing left or right the entire time he does it and then dodge when it comes down. You'll only take a little damage.
got him down to about 1/10th with a summon
the second phase ruined me, couldn't get close
finally took the two shark creatures down that protect the
rakuyo
I probably struggled against them the most ironically enough
now I have to decide if I should +10 the moonlight greatsword or the whirl saw
decisions
see this game is weird because i had no trouble with ebrietas but damn i keep dieng on this one
Arjen
Member
It's at the end of the area,just past some old friends.
I haven't had the chance to play yet, but that boss looks really annoying.
Nah, I always use +18%, +18%, +15% physicals you get from the main game so no penalties.
Umm... how is that cheesy? That is pretty much how you have to do with Str weapons.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
I get it. your awesome. and i did use them and it wasnt enough because im worse than you. however if you look at their health pools compared to all other bosses in the game they are way bigger. So yeah, I still think those bosses health pools are larger than makes sense. its not impossible, it just feels out of place with the rest of the game. Its fine though, being able to summon is there for a reason. I would have to go through all the chalice dungeons to get gems that would give me the damage output to make them all seem like they have a reasonable amount of health. no other boss in the main game has health like those.
I dont care if they ever nerf it or not. Its just my opinion they have more health than seems fitting with the rest of the game.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
I uploaded the second half of the optional boss, i have no idea how people are struggling with it, this should be the easiest boss of the dlc....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow9i2L7uXuA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow9i2L7uXuA
Restarted with a Cruel Fate character fresh. Hunter Axe. Holy hell this thing is OP as fuck. Makes my decision to Cane it up on my first playthrough insanely dumb in hindsight (although the fashion souls is lacking).
That 14 starting arcane should help me with the Bowblade and true blue.
That 14 starting arcane should help me with the Bowblade and true blue.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Unless i skipped over the cheese, this was just a normal boss fight
dunno what you are playing on but i am playing on ng+4
KCroxtonJr
Member
Whirlwig Saw, just do it.
I feel like I'm just mowing the lawn with this thing, I love it lol.
As far as I know, no.
I'm actually not that great at these. I die a lot on bosses sometimes that people don't struggle on. The problem with Bloodborne (base) is that they are too lenient with bosses considering the amount of resources they hand the player. You don't need 20 blood vials for hardly any boss in vanilla outside of chalice dungeons. The boss HP seems right now, luckily they did add more options for co-op if people struggle.
Red Liquorice
Member
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down, fourth try. I think it took me that long to see all his moves a couple of times each at least so not too bad. He actually went down pretty fast and I can see him being a pretty easy/quick boss on repeat plays.
It's nice of them (and classic From I guess) to put a bunch of easy kill enemies right before the boss room that drop a ton of vials and bullets. Actually a really quick farming spot.
udwig
It's nice of them (and classic From I guess) to put a bunch of easy kill enemies right before the boss room that drop a ton of vials and bullets. Actually a really quick farming spot.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
I wonder what set ups peopkle are using. i bet a lot of people have good set ups from doing chalice duneons and the save file trick to get all three endings but never moving to ng+
The videos i watch people are doing like 400+ damage a bit. my dude who has done all main game but no chalice dungeons was doing about way way less than that with a +10 weapon with 2 12% ish gems and another less powerful gem. best I have one me. so yeah.... doing that much more damage is the same as them having less health.
without seeing peoples set ups before they fight the bosses its hard to say.
KCroxtonJr
Member
I totally missed out on two items from the DLC because I thought I was done with an NPC and killed it lol...The dialogue made it seem like there was nothing more to give. oh well they're not items I really wanted asap anyways.
Still need to beat the optional boss, I almost got it halfway, I'm getting used to it now.
Also uploading the video of my fight with the final boss, it's worth watching for the few EXTREMELY close calls and the ending lol, it'll be up in about an hour (curse slow upload speeds).
Still need to beat the optional boss, I almost got it halfway, I'm getting used to it now.
Also uploading the video of my fight with the final boss, it's worth watching for the few EXTREMELY close calls and the ending lol, it'll be up in about an hour (curse slow upload speeds).
I just beat the final boss.! I will never fight it again on NG++++ and beyond. good thing my arcane character is at NG++ only.
should I kill the guy in the prison with
? what if I don't kill him?
an elevator from a different area to the
? I only know about elevators to the right and one takes me closer to the second boss!! I'm lost here.
should I kill the guy in the prison with
the beast hide
an elevator from a different area to the
research hall
KCroxtonJr
Member
Well the actual expansion content is actually part of the latest update for the base game, so yeah most likely.
The place that had two hunters in church garbs after the prison hallway. There was the elevator you used to get to research hall. Now the altar has changed and it has the skull. Also if you go down from there you get new weapon.
31GhostsIV
Banned
I've been trying to buy this (and the latest Rocksmith DLC) since first thing this morning on the PSN store (UK). However, when I try to pay for it, i keep getting an 'unexpected error' message - anyone else have EU PSN store troubles?
Cane is the best starting weapon. No, it doesn't have the badass spin move, but the whip's range and stamina usage is essentially an exploit against the enemy AI, as it hits enemies before they switch to their melee AI behavior. Quick, too. Melee caning is also fantastic combo of stun, damage, and stamina usage.
You can't attack it, at least not with your weapon from what I can I see. I ran up and tried to whack at it. There is an item you get from walking up to it and pressing the X button though.
I actually didn't know you could backstab it, so all i do now is wait for that moment lol