Bloomberg: iPad 3 in March with retina display, quad core chip

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Even when iPads overtake PC shipments from every other company combined, some people will still be parroting they're 'not real computers'. As if there's a magic ingredient that suddenly makes a computer 'real'. When people are using iPads to replace most of the tasks they used their laptops for, then yes, they're computers. An iPad doesn't need to be a replacement for 100% of the specific things you can do with a desktop OS to be considered a computer. I wouldn't trade my Macbook Air for an iPad in a million years, as I do professional design work and need the full power of many desktop suites, but I'm able to look at the big picture and realize what most people use their computers for, and don't project my requirements on the market at large.

These are Apple's mobile computer sales which include macbooks and iPads. It's crystal clear where things are going.

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Even when iPads overtake PC shipments from every other company combined, people will still be saying they're 'not real computers'. As if there's a magic ingredient that suddenly makes a computer 'real'. When people are using iPads to replace most of the tasks they used their laptops for, then yes, they're computers. An iPad doesn't need to be a replacement for 100% of the specific things you can do with a desktop OS to be considered a computer.

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The iPhone wasn't allowed to be counted as a smartphone in certain circles because it lacked copy and paste if I'm remembering that right. People react oddly when Apple does stuff.
 
Ipad is a real computer. Just like my shitty old android phone is a "real" computer. But do I want to do any type of creation or real computing on it? Fuck no.
 
Even when iPads overtake PC shipments from every other company combined, people will still be saying they're 'not real computers'. As if there's a magic ingredient that suddenly makes a computer 'real'. When people are using iPads to replace most of the tasks they used their laptops for, then yes, they're computers. An iPad doesn't need to be a replacement for 100% of the specific things you can do with a desktop OS to be considered a computer. I wouldn't trade my Macbook Air for an iPad in a million years, as I do professional design work and need the full power of many desktop suites, but I'm able to look at the big picture and realize what most people use their computers for, and don't project my requirements on the market at large.

These are Apple's mobile computer sales which include macbooks and iPads. It's crystal clear where things are going.

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Usage patterns don't define functionality of a device. They define....usage patterns of a device.

The same people that will tell you that the ipad isn't a computer but an appliance will tell you that most people don't need a full fledged computer to begin with. Computers have always been "too much computer" for most folks.
 
Ipad is a real computer. Just like my shitty old android phone is a "real" computer. But do I want to do any type of creation or real computing on it? Fuck no.

Last I checked computer doesn't equal creation. iPad is a computing platform whether people want to accept it or not, it's geared towards consumption but that doesn't mean that it is any less of a computer. Considering the average consumer does more consumption than creating with a computer, iPad is the ideal tool for many. Hell I love my MBA but I'd be lying if I said that I do a lot of creation on it. What I love about the MBA is the ease at which you can multitask, and tablets are getting better and better at this as time goes on. Jobs said it best, people are getting nervous as tablets slowly supplant traditional pc/macs, it's going to accelerate in the future. Get used to it.
 
Last I checked computer doesn't equal creation. iPad is a computing platform whether people want to accept it or not, it's geared towards consumption but that doesn't mean that it is any less of a computer. Considering the average consumer does more consumption than creating with a computer, iPad is the ideal tool for many. Hell I love my MBA but I'd be lying if I said that I do a lot of creation on it. What I love about the MBA is the ease at which you can multitask, and tablets are getting better and better at this as time goes on. Jobs said it best, people are getting nervous as tablets slowly supplant traditional pc/macs, it's going to accelerate in the future. Get used to it.

For fucks sake. I said it was a real computer. If you take the time to respond, take the time to actually read the post you are responding to.
 
LOL at people who say iPad isn't a computer

anyways, here's a technical question. If iPad 3 remains a dual-core CPU instead of quad-core, will that ensure a smooth transition in terms of app performance? Would apps need to be totally re-written for a quad-core? Would it break current apps? Just curious if the rumored A5X would make the compatibility process a bit easier.
 
LOL at people who say iPad isn't a computer

anyways, here's a technical question. If iPad 3 remains a dual-core CPU instead of quad-core, will that ensure a smooth transition in terms of app performance? Would apps need to be totally re-written for a quad-core? Would it break current apps? Just curious if the rumored A5X would make the compatibility process a bit easier.

You you HONESTLY think there's a chance in hell current apps will be 'broken' by the next iPad? Come on. It will be an ARM chip regardless, of course it won't break anything.
 
You you HONESTLY think there's a chance in hell current apps will be 'broken' by the next iPad? Come on. It will be an ARM chip regardless, of course it won't break anything.

Broken was a poor choice of words. I just remember reading about a few apps having issues between iPad and iPad 2. Nothing wide spread. I was just curious if apps would have to be re-written for a quad-core. I know nothing about the technical side of things, hence my poor ability to articulate my questions.
 
Well, aren't you two just a couple of smug assholes.

Smug? Tobor, really, I'm just an asshole.

But I guess it's time for me to acknowledge the iPad as an Apple computer product. I mean, RAM upgrades are just as expensive, so it really makes sense to put it in that category.
 
Everybody has a different opinion
On what type of nachos are ruling
But we can agree on this one point
That the concept of nachos is awesome and incredible
 
Everybody has a different opinion
On what type of nachos are ruling
But we can agree on this one point
That the concept of nachos is awesome and incredible

What really defines nachos, though? There are people in here that are advocating that chips with only really good ground beef on them qualify as good nachos...when I say that you can hardly even call them nachos unless it's got all that melty cheese, the gooey sour cream, the jalapeños AND the good ground beef on them.

It's like...are we eating nachos or did someone decide to sprinkle some left over meat on some chips?
 
Yeah its a far less capable computer, which is why it is half the price of Apple's low-end Macbook. But to claim it isn't a computer is absurd. Apple markets it as a computer, it used by many people instead of a computer, and all PC sales trackers include it in PC sales. Its not a high-end computer by any means but it is indeed a computer.

It does everything and does them pretty damn well that most people need from a home computer. Most people only need one for internet browsing, social networks, e-mail, and some light document writing. All of which iPad does.

Netbooks, Tablets, Notebooks, & Desktops are all PC's.
I don't think anybody was saying that it shouldn't be classified as A computing device, but whether it should be THE ONLY computing device you need want. .

Being a tablet, it is not ideal for all situations and tasks. So it would be odd that somebody who is presumably tech-literate would not be able to substitute a laptop or something until the iPad3 is announced.
 
Concerning Kindle vs iPad for reading... I bought my Kindle primarily because I like to read giant 1000 page books and I only buy hardcover, so weight is a huge issue. The difference of a half pound Kindle vs a 1.3 lb ipad is large. But I guess it depends how you read. I read a lot in bed holding a book over my head which I would never do with an ipad.

The ipad 3 will be my couch computer, Kindle stays in the bedroom.
 
I'm pretty sure people have discussed this already but I was just thinking...

If the retina rumours are true, we're gonna have to deal with lots of blurry apps for some time, right?
 
I'm pretty sure people have discussed this already but I was just thinking...

If the retina rumours are true, we're gonna have to deal with lots of blurry apps for some time, right?

Well text should automatically scale up to retina resolution, but art assets won't look tht great on iPad 3. Devs will update their apps over time but it will probably take six months to a year before the majority of apps are retina native. It took about the same amount of time for Devs to do the same for iPhone apps
 
I don't think anybody was saying that it shouldn't be classified as A computing device, but whether it should be THE ONLY computing device you need want. .

Being a tablet, it is not ideal for all situations and tasks. So it would be odd that somebody who is presumably tech-literate would not be able to substitute a laptop or something until the iPad3 is announced.
The laptop form factor is no longer suitable for me. It's not what I want and a poor substitute for an iPad.

I have a desktop, and it's fine for certain games and as a media hub, but that's it. The rest of my use case scenarios are better handled with an iPad.
 
a retina display iPad 3 will make the Kindle vs iPad argument a little more interesting. I'm certainly looking forward to using the iPad 3 for more e-reading with the higher res display. Much easier on the eyes.

Still though...my wife's Kindle does a great job if you simply want to read books in a variety of settings.
 
a retina display iPad 3 will make the Kindle vs iPad argument a little more interesting. I'm certainly looking forward to using the iPad 3 for more e-reading with the higher res display. Much easier on the eyes.

Still though...my wife's Kindle does a great job if you simply want to read books in a variety of settings.

I really didn't like reading on the iPad until someone recommended using sepia instead of white for the background. After that there no issue with my eyes getting tired. iPad 3 resolution should help greatly here. I'm excited to read some of my magazines on that incredible display.
 
Well text should automatically scale up to retina resolution, but art assets won't look tht great on iPad 3. Devs will update their apps over time but it will probably take six months to a year before the majority of apps are retina native. It took about the same amount of time for Devs to do the same for iPhone apps

:( didn't know it took so long, I took the plunge into the iOS world after the retina conversion. This is a major bummer. I just hope that the popular devs already have their updates in the pipeline.
 
:( didn't know it took so long, I took the plunge into the iOS world after the retina conversion. This is a major bummer. I just hope that the popular devs already have their updates in the pipeline.

I'm sure that many of the popular apps that has active development will be updated very quickly. Just meant that the majority of apps (including niche apps) will take longer to make the jump. AAA games and other big apps (flipboard, etc) will probably go retina quickly.
 
Well text should automatically scale up to retina resolution, but art assets won't look tht great on iPad 3. Devs will update their apps over time but it will probably take six months to a year before the majority of apps are retina native. It took about the same amount of time for Devs to do the same for iPhone apps

Yeah. Also, I'd bet a lot of games will just not be updated for retina.
 
:( didn't know it took so long, I took the plunge into the iOS world after the retina conversion. This is a major bummer. I just hope that the popular devs already have their updates in the pipeline.

The big apps will update quickly. It's the outlier stuff and certain games that take forever or never get updated at all.
 
I really didn't like reading on the iPad until someone recommended using sepia instead of white for the background. After that there no issue with my eyes getting tired. iPad 3 resolution should help greatly here. I'm excited to read some of my magazines on that incredible display.

That's actually a good point. I switched mine to Sepia a long time ago and just forgot...but it's definitely set that way for the same reason.
 
An argument against universal retina apps... App sizes are going to be a lot larger than necessary, if, for example, you only have an ipad2. Your app will contain assets for iPhone, iPhone retina, iPad, iPad retina.

Are the assets all separated or organised within the app bundle? Is it possible, say, to have the device only install the assets for that device during installation?
 
An argument against universal retina apps... App sizes are going to be a lot larger than necessary, if, for example, you only have an ipad2. Your app will contain assets for iPhone, iPhone retina, iPad, iPad retina.

Are the assets all separated or organised within the app bundle? Is it possible, say, to have the device only install the assets for that device during installation?

I'm fairly certain that the benefit of universal apps is that there isn't so much duplication of assets as there is just scaling of assets. Like the assets running on the iPad would ideally just be scaled to run on the iPhone...but wouldn't require two different files, you know what I mean?

I doubt that this is true 100% of the time, but admittedly I'm not fully in-the-know on the subject.

For what it's worth I haven't noticed universal apps being insanely larger than regular apps by any stretch. That may change when Retina becomes the standard though...because all new apps would supposedly support up to Retina level graphics.
 
An argument against universal retina apps... App sizes are going to be a lot larger than necessary, if, for example, you only have an ipad2. Your app will contain assets for iPhone, iPhone retina, iPad, iPad retina.

Are the assets all separated or organised within the app bundle? Is it possible, say, to have the device only install the assets for that device during installation?

With all the power in these things, they should probably just go real time vectors w/effects for graphical assets.
 
I have it on good authority that iPad 5 will be the greatest iPad upon its release. 2014 will be the year of the iPad.

Awesome! That's what I will be doing! No really! I own a iPad 2. Don't see a need for an upgrade yet. So unless iPad 4 comes with something mind blowing... I'll be waiting it out till iPad 5.
 
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