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BO Wkd 06•16-18•17 - Queen is dethroned, all hail McQueen, ScarJo roughed up

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This but with Gadot would work.

How often did Leslie Nielsen pretend to fuck women who were born when he was 39?
 
I get this pov, I just dont' understand why it's the automatic go-to.

Instead of looking at it as "they got a Wonder Woman and a Deadpool so right that they ran over the rest of the box-office that year and became general phenomenons" it's "They only got their Ws because the RIGHTFUL winners got cheated by bad filmmakers"

It's not a question of rightful, it's a question of what does and doesn't have a massive built-in audience.
 

firelogic

Member
I know you're probably joking, but I would love to see Snyder's take on A Star Wars film.

At the very least, it would be the best looking with the most awesome action sequences in the series. I think he'd do a lot of cool things with the saber battles incorporating a lot more force powers. DAMN I WANT THAT!
 
Yes. Kenzo and me brought up in the previous thread that e.g. its German debut is half of that of the other DCEU movies, I think someone reported similar numbers for France.
Now whether that is disappointing or not, it *is* a WW1 prequel detached from the rest of DCEU after all, is up for debate.

To be fair, it is yet another war movie about beating up villainous Germans. If I were German I'd be like "oh come on, we weren't even Nazis in this one."
 

ArmGunar

Member
Worldwide Updates: (kswiston isn't here)

Beauty and the Beast - $1.253B
The Fate of the Furious - $1.237B

Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $650M
Wonder Woman - $572M ($39.5M intl we)
The Mummy - $295.6M
Cars 3 - $74.8M ($21.3M in 23 markets)
 
It's not a question of rightful, it's a question of what does and doesn't have a massive built-in audience.

And maybe the importance of "massive, built-in audiences" is being overestimated by people who self-identify as belonging to that audience.

It happens a lot in these BO threads: the cognitive dissonance from superhero fans who think the popularity of a character in the comics they're being adapted from is a reliable barometer for general public acceptance.

People tend to not care all that much if they've ever heard of a superhero before.

They care more about whether the superhero is fun to spend time with.

And there is a bit of a connection between "massive built-in audience" and "rightful," isn't there? You're essentially suggesting that due to that built-in audience, by RIGHTS Superman and Batman should be bigger than Wonder Woman, and when they aren't, it's not Wonder Woman's victory, it's Superman & Batman's loss.

It's a difference in perspective, I guess.
 
At the very least, it would be the best looking with the most awesome action sequences in the series. I think he'd do a lot of cool things with the saber battles incorporating a lot more force powers. DAMN I WANT THAT!

This is pretty much the main reason why I would want to it. His saber duels would be insane.
 

Dmented

Banned
Solid numbers for All Eyez on me since it's not a big budget and not in as many theaters, all shows have been full when I was looking for tickets online

I'm still surprised it was made let alone in major theaters. I figured if it were to be made at all, it would be a straight to DVD release. It looked like it had many issues from the start.

Shame it apparently sucks. A good 2Pac biopic deserves to be made. Sadly this may stop that from happening.
 

Kusagari

Member
And maybe the importance of "massive, built-in audiences" is being overestimated by people who self-identify as belonging to that audience.

It happens a lot in these BO threads: the cognitive dissonance from superhero fans who think the popularity of a character in the comics they're being adapted from is a reliable barometer for general public acceptance.

People tend to not care all that much if they've ever heard of a superhero before.

They care more about whether the superhero is fun to spend time with.

And there is a bit of a connection between "massive built-in audience" and "rightful," isn't there? You're essentially suggesting that due to that built-in audience, by RIGHTS Superman and Batman should be bigger than Wonder Woman, and when they aren't, it's not Wonder Woman's victory, it's Superman & Batman's loss.

It's a difference in perspective, I guess.

Wonder Woman and Deadpool were unbridled successes but neither will end up touching the last Batman film, let alone Dark Knight, before the DCEU came into existence.

That's what I think a lot of people are ultimately comparing BvS to: the fact that it couldn't even come close to Nolan's highs when it should have. And the opening weekend suggests that if it wasn't a turd that it would have reached those highs.
 
And maybe the importance of "massive, built-in audiences" is being overestimated by people who self-identify as belonging to that audience.

It happens a lot in these BO threads: the cognitive dissonance from superhero fans who think the popularity of a character in the comics they're being adapted from is a reliable barometer for general public acceptance.

People tend to not care all that much if they've ever heard of a superhero before.

They care more about whether the superhero is fun to spend time with.

And there is a bit of a connection between "massive built-in audience" and "rightful," isn't there? You're essentially suggesting that due to that built-in audience, by RIGHTS Superman and Batman should be bigger than Wonder Woman, and when they aren't, it's not Wonder Woman's victory, it's Superman & Batman's loss.

It's a difference in perspective, I guess.

Well look, are you going to get dispassionate, objective opinions about Batman from internet nerds? No, you might as well ask a Southern Baptist English professor what he thinks about Jesus and Shakespeare, and then mash those into one thing.

I don't think it's about comics - that audience is so small it can't have any broader effect. And I get what you're saying, I was the one guy in the world who heard they were doing a Guardians movie and thought it was a great idea because Rocket & Groot would hit with kids and space works well on a big screen. And because comic fans only ignored that series based on dumb things like "it doesn't happen in New York so they can't meet Spider-Man and Wolverine so it doesn't really count."

But it's pretty obvious that Batman as a global media property has had massive mindshare for decades. Everybody knows who he is, what his deal is, why he's cool, and whether or not they already want to see a movie about him. People who've never seen an issue of Detective with their own eyes have seen him in movies, cartoons or video games, toys, t-shirts, weird Prince videos. All he has to do is not show up with rock-bottom word of mouth to challenge box office records.

Wonder Woman? People know she's the default female superhero reference and that's about it. To get to specifics you had to be pretty deep into pop culture lore for most people - can she fly? Is she bullet proof like Superman? That's shit even most comics writers don't seem to know. Artemis? Giganta? Sentient invisible jet? Meaningful solo media representations in the last 40 years? Forget it. There just wasn't much brand equity built up there.
 

tkscz

Member
Worldwide Updates: (kswiston isn't here)

Beauty and the Beast - $1.253B
The Fate of the Furious - $1.237B

Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $650M
Wonder Woman - $572M ($39.5M intl we)
The Mummy - $295.6M
Cars 3 - $74.8M ($21.3M in 23 markets)

At that point, WW is already profitable for WB. Also damn if Tom Cruise puts world wide butts in seats.
 

ItIsOkBro

Member
Worldwide Updates: (kswiston isn't here)

Beauty and the Beast - $1.253B
The Fate of the Furious - $1.237B

Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $650M
Wonder Woman - $572M ($39.5M intl we)
The Mummy - $295.6M
Cars 3 - $74.8M ($21.3M in 23 markets)

what the fuck at that worldwide mummy
 

Schlorgan

Member
I want Justin Lin to do a Star Wars movie.

There's only one franchise I want see Zack Snyder direct.

Final Fantasy
That's actually the only one that seems appropriate. What I remember of
Advent Children
was already pretty close to a Snyder film.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Rough Night feels like something that could've been a hit if it didn't have such bad marketing. But then I also think Bobby Roberts is right that this concept missed its window by several years.
 

DJChuy

Member
I'm suprised how well All Eyez on Me did. I thought it was going to bomb judging by the reviews.

Solid hold for WW, and the monster universe still lives?
 
Holy shit. Is international audiences have shit taste in movies! What the fuck is that kind of box office for The Mummy when it all but bombed in the US???
 
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