Stevonidas
Member
Lazy, unoptimized port. Probably a GKC release as well.
MP4 looks and runs circles around this slop.
MP4 looks and runs circles around this slop.
vodka-bull
Member
But Vita is overclockable which solves most fps issues.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
It's not.
kat_on_the_roof
Member
I don't really understand why everyone expects the Switch 2 to be able to easily play current games.
For me, a handheld console has always been something separate from the graphics-intensive consoles from Xbox and Sony. I have absolutely no desire to play Borderlands 4 or Cyberpunk on the go. For me, only games with a well-suited UI for a handheld and that were also developed with mobile gaming in mind are worth playing.
For me, a handheld console has always been something separate from the graphics-intensive consoles from Xbox and Sony. I have absolutely no desire to play Borderlands 4 or Cyberpunk on the go. For me, only games with a well-suited UI for a handheld and that were also developed with mobile gaming in mind are worth playing.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
It's concerns trolling, nothing more.
Vaquilla
Member
30fps should be expected for ports of demanding current gen games to a handheld system.
The laws of physics mean a big console box plugged into the mains will always have an unassailable power advantage over a handheld a fraction the size that has to run off a battery.
This isn't news, it's to be expected. If you want high level performance, then you're not the target audience.
The laws of physics mean a big console box plugged into the mains will always have an unassailable power advantage over a handheld a fraction the size that has to run off a battery.
This isn't news, it's to be expected. If you want high level performance, then you're not the target audience.
PlayStaytion
Member
That's like saying shut up Randy and eat your lunch.
vaibhavpisal
Member
You should try BL3 on current consoles and see how well it runs.
Was expecting same for BL4 also, but apparently not.
Its online action game as far as I am concerned. Eye candy can be disabled here.
Baemono
Member
When you see Metal Gear 3 runs at 756p on the PS5 Pro with heavy dips, you put things into perspective
Neofire
Member
For a system that is the same price as current gen consoles when it was released a few months ago? Yeeeeeah I say people expected more and to hear other talk about the Switch 2/DLSS it's the best thing next to oxygen.
Now all of a sudden, "unreal is the problem" or "Gearbox doesn't know how to optimize"
Switch 2 owners need to realize that the thing is a handheld with lots of limitations and DLSS isn't going to magically turn it into a Xbox Series X or PS5.
LordOcidax
Member
Who is thinking that?. The only people that are moving the goalposts here are the Switch 2 haters…
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Kenneth Haight
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Title: "runs at 30 FPS"
Actual impression: "barely runs at 30 FPS"
Actual impression: "barely runs at 30 FPS"
Spiral1407
Member
Was anyone even expecting 60fps with that CPU? I mean, the phone I'm typing this on is significantly faster and can be bought for around the same price as S2.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
That piece of shit console is only good enough for mario games, kiddy games or tetris like games. It amazes me the amount it has sold.
Bert Big Balls
Gold Member
Good job I won't be playing it on a switch 2 anyway.
baphomet
Member
You should probably get those eyes checked. Forget the drops to the low 20's happening regularly, and just pay attention to the complete hitches happening only slightly less regularly.
Power Pro
Member
Here we go again. Always moving the goalpost. Switch 1 (don't expect 60fps games)... okay, we have a more powerful Switch 2 (don't expect 60fps games again). A console that is said to be on par with an xbox series s, which has plenty of 60fps games...oh we shouldn't expect games to run at 60fps.
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Mozza
Member
What is more surprising is the fact we are surprised about the endless threads on here. All basically suggesting the Switch 2 is rubbish because it does not have PS5 or Series X power. It was never going to in the first place. Funny how you never see the same comparisons between the current gen consoles and top spec pc's as you would get similar issues.Actually, the Switch 2 graphics and sales performance is exactly what i expected.
The Switch 2 is mainly going to push Nintendo's own software and this will drive the sales of the console. Games like this will be bought by customers totally unaware of any of this or the fact it's being discussed on niche videogame websites in the first place. These gamers will simply buy Borderlands for the Switch 2 and enjoy it. As I will.
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Skifi28
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What goalpost did I move? The CPU is nowhere near the Series S. Whoever told you to expect the same level of performance as the S in CPU demanding games, like UE5 for example, has been lying to you as the CPU has roughly half the performance. The Switch 2 can get theoretically close to the S in terms of GPU power combined with DLSS, but most modern games seem to ve very CPU limited so you're looking at 40fps performance modes at best. Look at Cyberpunk as a good example of what a Switch 2 port of a moden game will look like and adjust your expectations accordingly instead of lashing out at me.Here we go again. Always moving the goalpost. Switch 1 (don't expect 60fps games)... okay, we have a more powerful Switch 2 (don't expect 60fps games again). A console that is said to be on par with an xbox series s, which has plenty of 60fps games...oh we shouldn't expect games to run at 60fps.
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lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Actually, the Switch 2 graphics and sales performance is exactly what i expected
I agree 100%. I think nintendo should stop investing on third parties and invest more on 1st party on their platform.
Not sure which game you are referring to, but im glad i bought a ps5 pro for Mh wilds, heard it runs like ass on PC.
demigod
Member
Yup
Clearly 30 fps, but I don't see anything like what the tweet is saying
I posted that video way early in the day and this is the thread to decide that someone's words on twitter is worth more than the fucking footage of the game demo recorded?
Again, Switch 2's version is october 3, the demo build is likely a couple weeks old, it surprisingly looks better than I expected it would be.
Someone is lying
Are you guys blind? Stutters / split second freezes galore. 2:18, 2:40, 3:13, 5:29, 6:03, 6:08 from the small segment that i watched. Weird to see folks that champion PC are defending this shitty port.
ThisIsMyDog
Member
Here is an explanation of the Switch 2 framerate problems.
If a game is designed with 60fps on PS5 in mind, then on Switch 2 the CPU is going to struggle to even maintain a stable 30fps.
If a game is designed with 60fps on PS5 in mind, then on Switch 2 the CPU is going to struggle to even maintain a stable 30fps.
winjer
Member
Here is an explanation of the Switch 2 framerate problems.
If a game is designed with 60fps on PS5 in mind, then on Switch 2 the CPU is going to struggle to even maintain a stable 30fps.
Geekbench is a terrible benchmark to compare CPUs, because it mostly stresses the backend, while most applications, especially games, stress the frontend.
Mozza
Member
Yet to most people it will look and play exactly the same. Not suggesting that you guys are somehow wrong in your views, or that they do not have some weight. But in reality most people will buy this game for the current generation consoles and P.C.
The Switch audience will be pretty small and most of them will simply see this as Borderlands 4 for the Nintendo Switch 2. They will simply play it and have fun unaware of any of this. As it will simply not affect most people moaning complaining on here.
Mozza
Member
Which are what they do. Look at the top selling games on the Switch to see this. Third parties are welcome and will get extra sales as well.
Mozza
Member
Awesome... Well done... seriously
Vaquilla
Member
Price doesn't scale linearly with power, the ROG Ally X is more expensive than a PS5 but less powerful.
And a handheld machine releasing in 2025 being less powerful than home consoles from 2020 isn't unusual at all, it takes longer than that to close the gap between home console and mobile tech.
Vaquilla
Member
Not hating at all, I love my Switch 2 and I'm having a blast playing stuff like Donkey Kong and Cyberpunk on it.
Just saying, people getting worked up over a PS5 port being 30fps on it are being silly, at the end of the day the thing's a fraction the size of a PS5 and uses a fraction the wattage.
Mozza
Member
Like the new avatar.
Mozza
Member
Please continue to give your invaluable insights. I for one will be writing some of this stuff down. To help me with my future videogaming purchases.
Mozza
Member
He will be back............For how long I am not sure lol...
Woopah
Member
A lot will depend on how third parties sell in the next few years.
If PS5 games come to Switch 2 a year later and still sell well, then we'll also see PS6 games ported to Switch 2. But if third party games have to be Day 1 on Switch 2 to get good numbers, then publishers have to invest in a Day 1 relesse or not bother.
There's still a noticeable gap, but a smaller one. For example, it took three years for Borderlands 3 to come to Switch.
Why not do both? Borderlands 4 might not have even needed investment from Nintendo.
Literally in this very topic you see "shitty port" comments. You ok?Who is thinking that?. The only people that are moving the goalposts here are the Switch 2 haters…
Cyberpunkd
Member
They don't care. Switch 2 as Switch will be 95% Nintendo, everybody else will play for scraps.
Unless I misunderstood your post, Panic Button are the ones doing this port.
Vaquilla
Member
There's still an audience for playing games like this on the go; they may not sell as much as Mario Kart or Zelda, but they still evidently make enough to justify the investment, otherwise these kind of conversions would have stopped in like 2018.
When the game is already made, you only need to sell maybe half a million to recoup porting costs.