Borderlands 4 runs at 30FPs Docked on Nintendo Switch 2

There's still an audience for playing games like this on the go; they may not sell as much as Mario Kart or Zelda, but they still evidently make enough to justify the investment, otherwise these kind of conversions would have stopped in like 2018.

When the game is already made, you only need to sell maybe half a million to recoup porting costs.
Yeah but I hate how 3rd party devs think "it's good enough" and just release a vastly inferior port with same price tag to make quick bucks.

I don't expect magic on Switch 2, but if your game is 30fps and lower res I expect solid performance in every situation.
 
There's still an audience for playing games like this on the go; they may not sell as much as Mario Kart or Zelda, but they still evidently make enough to justify the investment, otherwise these kind of conversions would have stopped in like 2018.

When the game is already made, you only need to sell maybe half a million to recoup porting costs.
Yes, those people will buy a PC handheld, not a Switch.
 
Yes, those people will buy a PC handheld, not a Switch.
PC handhelds are a tiny niche, that entire market has sold what, a few million in the last 3 years?

Hardly anybody actually owns one outside of a small audience of enthusiasts, whereas the Switch 2 audience will be many times larger.
 
PC handhelds are a tiny niche, that entire market has sold what, a few million in the last 3 years?

Hardly anybody actually owns one outside of a small audience of enthusiasts, whereas the Switch 2 audience will be many times larger.
The Switch 2 audience doesn't care about non-Nintendo games.
 
PC handhelds are a tiny niche, that entire market has sold what, a few million in the last 3 years?

Hardly anybody actually owns one outside of a small audience of enthusiasts, whereas the Switch 2 audience will be many times larger.
These handhelds (I don't consider them pc's) still haven't had a true flagship product.

The Steam Deck is good, but not widely advertised and still not available everywhere.
The others are overpriced and bogged down by windows crap.

Let's see what happens when some juggernaut makes and properly promotes a really good handheld.

It kinda reminds me of the smartphone market in the 2000s, when dozens of manufacturers were experimenting with different form factors, interfaces, and operating systems—until iOS and Android settled the market.
 
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The Switch 2 audience doesn't care about non-Nintendo games.
I don't think that's true, otherwise we wouldn't have a swarm of switch 2 owners complaining about "bad" ports. If you talk about about casual players outside of the gaming space... ok, that's true. But that's true for virtually every console/hardware/device out there.
 
Worthwhile doesn't mean "with care", which is what we are getting here - minimal effort.
It would be nice if they were higher quality, yes.

A lot of publishers do seem to be cashing in on the system's popularity with mixed results.

Still, we do get some good stuff out of of it, like Cyberpunk or Hitman or Kunitsu-gami. Hopefully in time the good ones will win out.
 
People on here were hyping up the switch 2 before launch saying 'DLSS will help them switch 2 massively and you won't be able to notice a difference in games' and now that the switch 2 has been exposed as the hunk of shit it is technically they've backtracked too '30fps and stuttering is fine man because the switch 2 isn't about power'. The facts are that the switch 2 is an overpriced hunk of junk and i was screaming that it was going to be just that before it even launched.


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People on here were hyping up the switch 2 before launch saying 'DLSS will help them switch 2 massively and you won't be able to notice a difference in games' and now that the switch 2 has been exposed as the hunk of shit it is technically they've backtracked too '30fps and stuttering is fine man because the switch 2 isn't about power'. The facts are that the switch 2 is an overpriced hunk of junk and i was screaming that it was going to be just that before it even launched.


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Lol, DLSS in the Switch 2 is doing exactly that, look at Cyberpunk, Street Fighter and WWE 2K25. And nobody here was expecting a PS5 parity performance, some of you are trying hard to prove something that never happened just to throw shit to the Switch 2… So predictable.
 
People on here were hyping up the switch 2 before launch saying 'DLSS will help them switch 2 massively and you won't be able to notice a difference in games' and now that the switch 2 has been exposed as the hunk of shit it is technically they've backtracked too '30fps and stuttering is fine man because the switch 2 isn't about power'. The facts are that the switch 2 is an overpriced hunk of junk and i was screaming that it was going to be just that before it even launched.


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Not true. I was never ever expecting games to run at 60fps. For me decent visuals on these types of games at 30fps. Just look at the size of the Switch 2 and the power it draws to tell you this. Plus if people want a dedicated current generation console there are already two options available. And to be honest this is where the majority of sales for this and similar games will go.

That being said there is still a market for these types of experiences on the Switch 2. But there will always need to be some sacrifices. It's not as simple as labelling something as rubbish just because it does not offer performance of consoles it was never going to in the first place.
 
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Not true. I was never ever expecting games to run at 60fps. For me decent visuals on these types of games at 30fps. Just look at the size of the Switch 2 and the power it draws to tell you this. Plus if people want a dedicated current generation console there are already two options available. And to be honest this is where the majority of sales for this and similar games will go.

That being said there is still a market for these types of experiences on the Switch 2. But there will always need to be some sacrifices. It's not as simple as labelling something as rubbish just because it does not offer performance of consoles it was never going to in the first place.
Ok we have:
LordOcidax LordOcidax : Switch 2 Handheld = Base PS4+ , Switch 2 docked PS4 Pro+
@kevboard: Switch 2 Handheld = Sub Base PS4, Switch 2 docked Between Base PS4 and PS4 Pro.
Mr Moose Mr Moose : Switch 2 Handheld = Base PS4, Switch 2 docked Between PS4 Pro and Series S.
 
Nah, it's not CoD.


Any shooter in 2025 needs 60fps.

Because we all know when a game says 30fps, it really means 25-30fps under stress. 60fps with some drops is incredibly manageable, 30fps isn't. Feels like ass even with slower paced shooters.
 
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Funny how you never see the same comparisons between the current gen consoles and top spec pc's as you would get similar issues.
Because the differences in convenience, price, exclusives, etc. Only matter when they're compared to PC. When they're to Switch 1 or 2 it all gets forgotten. They get dynamically humble.
 
Not sure which game you are referring to, but im glad i bought a ps5 pro for Mh wilds, heard it runs like ass on PC.
A plague tale requiem and Gotham knights came without 60 fps mode, then we got Jedi Survivor with horrible performance and mandatory RT in the performance mode, then the performance mode for current gen only games had horrible IQ for basically all of them... I rather upgrade my GPU than having to eat whatever console version allows me to have. So yeah, nothing to brag about using these consoles to shit on Switch, they run games better but not in the minimum acceptable for many people.
 
Are you guys blind? Stutters / split second freezes galore. 2:18, 2:40, 3:13, 5:29, 6:03, 6:08 from the small segment that i watched. Weird to see folks that champion PC are defending this shitty port.

UE5 stutter?

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The twitter made it seem that the game hovers in the 20's FPS. It seems 30 FPS with some stutter. He should be clear. The game is still released weeks later than the other consoles in October, I'll evaluate the port I'm never gonna buy till then rather than make drama on twitter .

And the other platforms evaluated while we're at it because people's shouldn't celebrating too hard on trolling what they're seeing on switch 2

Considering..



There's stutter there on a 5090 🤷‍♂️
 
I mean it's UE5.
It's probably going to run at upscaled 720p 45-60fps on Ps5 and SX so it's hardly surprising that it will be 30fps on Switch 2.
 
The Switch 2 audience doesn't care about non-Nintendo games.
Switch audience bought over half a billion third party games, and that's not even counting digital-only titles which is an area third parties dominate.

So if the Switch audience cared about non-Nintendo games, why would the Switch 2 audience not care?
 
You know the Switch 2 runs Borderlands 3 at 60 right ?
as it should, BL3 is a 6yo game ffs, now what i want want to see is how SW2 ll handle this level of mayhem on BL4, since the game is already supposedly running bad at the beginning.
 
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Any shooter in 2025 needs 60fps.

Because we all know when a game says 30fps, it really means 25-30fps under stress. 60fps with some drops is incredibly manageable, 30fps isn't. Feels like ass even with slower paced shooters.
Destiny PvE was fine at 30fps for me. Of course higher is better but I never had a problem with it.
 
Who is thinking that?. The only people that are moving the goalposts here are the Switch 2 haters…
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A few more posts from the "haters®" and you'll start crying...

...and you're the guy making fun of "fanboys" in other threads ? absolutely zero self awareness my man.

You've been reply bombing each and every "dissenting" opinion for months now and frankly, it's become insufferable.

No one can take you seriously in here
 
Lazy, unoptimized port. Probably a GKC release as well.

MP4 looks and runs circles around this slop.

The port was outsourced to Panic Button, a studio well known for optimizing for Switch hardware. Calling it 'lazy' and 'unoptimized' is silly. It's still a work in progress, and you can't blame the dev for the Switch 2's power profile.

MP4 is a Switch 1 game that has been uprezzed and some visual flair added. It doesn't hold a candle to the complexity of this project.
 
These handhelds (I don't consider them pc's) still haven't had a true flagship product.

The Steam Deck is good, but not widely advertised and still not available everywhere.
The others are overpriced and bogged down by windows crap.

Let's see what happens when some juggernaut makes and properly promotes a really good handheld.

It kinda reminds me of the smartphone market in the 2000s, when dozens of manufacturers were experimenting with different form factors, interfaces, and operating systems—until iOS and Android settled the market.
Which juggernaut?
 
A few more posts from the "haters®" and you'll start crying...

...and you're the guy making fun of "fanboys" in other threads ? absolutely zero self awareness my man.

You've been reply bombing each and every "dissenting" opinion for months now and frankly, it's become insufferable.

No one can take you seriously in here
Rather than of course the endless people on here moaning about games for a console they will never own.
 
Rather than of course the endless people on here moaning about games for a console they will never own.

I do own one Mozza and I won't get my panties in a twist whenever someone states facts, i.e, that it's an underpowered, late to the party console.

Personally, my honeymoon period with it has already ended not even 3 months in - there's VERY few S2 upgrades, new games coming out don't even have a native S2 version (NG ragebound/Shinobi etc), we still don't know shit about how they'll handle S1 and S2 versions etc etc, for me it's gotten so bad that even when I'm about to buy a 2D indie game I have to search the internet whether it's sub 30fps or 60 (see Ragebound for the most recent example)...

Maybe you're OK with it brother but I'm not, people should be able to call a spade a spade - same thing with the PS5 Pro (which I also have one), the thing is too little, too late with no big improvements especially when you take into account that it's almost double the price of a base PS5, and yet, you still see people trying to defend that.
 
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I do own one Mozza and I won't get my panties in a twist whenever someone states facts, i.e, that it's an underpowered, late to the party console.

Personally, my honeymoon period with it has already ended not even 3 months in - there's VERY few S2 upgrades, new games coming out don't even have a native S2 version (NG ragebound/Shinobi etc), we still don't know shit about how they'll handle S1 and S2 versions etc etc, for me it's gotten so bad that even when I'm about to buy a 2D indie game I have to search the internet whether it's sub 30fps or 60 (see Ragebound for the most recent example)...

Maybe you're OK with it brother but I'm not, people should be able to call a spade a spade - same thing with the PS5 Pro (which I also have one), the thing is too little, too late with no big improvements especially when you take into account that it's almost double the price of a base PS5, and yet, you'll people trying to defend that.
There is a difference between people stating simple facts and basically trolling. Pretty sure LordOcidax owns multiple consoles. And he has always stated what the thought the power of the Switch 2 would end up being. I bought one knowing exactly what to expect.

No issue with people doing this in a constructive way. But the drive by comments are pointless. Plus it's not really defending when the console was never going to produce the results some are slating it for not living up to in the first place. Plus price has nothing to do with it.
 
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People on here were hyping up the switch 2 before launch saying 'DLSS will help them switch 2 massively and you won't be able to notice a difference in games' and now that the switch 2 has been exposed as the hunk of shit it is technically they've backtracked too '30fps and stuttering is fine man because the switch 2 isn't about power'. The facts are that the switch 2 is an overpriced hunk of junk and i was screaming that it was going to be just that before it even launched.


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Yeah I thought this was supposed be on par with series s. Lol.

Nobody overhypes pre-release hardware like Nintendo fanatics. Then when reality hits they act like this is what they always expected. Been seeing it since the 3ds.
 
It's a console between PS4 and PS4 Pro

And those consoles are not even getting Borderlands 4

They are forced to port to Switch 2 because it's a new console that currently has no games to play

They can make a lot of money with a shit port
 
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