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Borderlands |OT| More guns than the population of the Netherlands
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Jamesfrom818
Banned
While not the most efficient or safest way of killing things, I'm really liking my Siren's Plaguebearer build that uses constant Phaseblasts to daze enemies along with my x4 corrosive rocket launcher that fires in a spread pattern.
SquallASF said:
Ι still haven't played Borderlands on my set (Samsung 40F86) but I've seen RE5 on 3 different HDTV's at 1080p and the tearing was horrible in all 3 sets...in fact this is maybe a strange bug of the MT Framework (also stated at an article at digitalfoundry) as all games based on that engine on resolutions higher than 720p are plagued with tearing.
BTW still waiting for my copy (along with Tekken 6) from play-asia to arrive...
BobFromPikeCreek
Member
:lol Rockets. Keep reaching for that rainbow.
BobFromPikeCreek
Member
My penchant for hoarding exceeds both my generosity and my disgust for rocket launchers.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
I can't think of a valid reason why you should opt for the PS3 version if you already have a PC that can run the game flawlessly or at the very least with a consistent framerate. The performance on consoles is really bad (somewhat depending on the resolution allegedly), if that matters to you.AgentOtaku said:
You don't need to hit your enemies dead-on with a rocket. Don't know what gave you that impression. Splash damage is good enough to put a serious dent on your enemy's health / shield, even if it doesn't have an elemental to boost its strength.drizzle said:
- The Helix rocket launchers are hit-and-miss. Often only 1 rocket will hit where they should (even if you adjust the way you fire them) and it's a pain to deal with turrets when using one of those.RubxQub said:
- Rocket launchers without elemental damage can be good too.
- You forgot to mention that rocket launchers with burst fire are the ones that truly "suck".
Given how poorly the game performs on consoles, I sincerely doubt that.SquallASF said:
arts&crafts
Member
I bought borderlands on steam presuming I could play it, I have core2 duo 6400 and ati x800 gto 2, but when i went to play the game it crashed due to me not having pixel shader 3.0. Clearly I haven't been a PC gamer in a while and missed this pixel shader business. Now I am looking for a cheap upgrade to play borderlands and I don't want to wait a week to get it shipped so I was wondering if this is a viable upgrade and will it run Borderlands?http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pr...0113482&catid=25617&logon=&langid=EN&dm=DEBUG
PS I am in Canada, so this would be cheaper in US dollars.
PS I am in Canada, so this would be cheaper in US dollars.
The game runs fine on the PS3 there have been a few times where the framerate got low but 2 of those times I was going up a elevator lol and the other was when I was fighting a pretty big monster with lots of adds, but overall I haven't had any major performance issues the game doesn't run poorly.
Squall ASF
Member
Shoogoo said:
It's a Samsung, 550 series I believe.
MicVlaD said:
Hasn't performed poorly for me *shrug* No reason to lie about it. I didn't have that RE5 tearing problem either so either I'm just lucky, or my tv pwns. I think a little of both
Granted, there's at least two successors to mine now but it's still working great for me. My roommate had the tearing issue with RE5 though, he even had it at 720p!Squall ASF
Member
funkmastergeneral said:
The guy standing up on the cat walk at the middle of nowhere outpost gives you a few quests which ultimatley lead to reparing the quest board at that outpost. Just run up to where the board is, and then across from it, staying on the catwalk. Only guy there.
RubxQub
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Again, my style of shooting the rockets seem very different than others. You jump and shoot them downwards at the enemy to ensure that you're aiming at their feet, not their head or their body. This way you'll get all 3 rockets to either hit them directly or land directly next to them so you still get the splash damage.MicVlaD said:
You can shoot your rocket right into someone standing right next to you as long as you jump away from them and shoot down at them.
Rocket haters need to duel me and see who kills harder.
Hint: I kill in one shot and don't even have to hit you directly.
X800? Holy hell, i didn't even know they made those on PCI Express. That's one hell of an old card.arts&crafts said:
The 9500 you linked is horrible. Hell, even the 9600 is horrible. If you REALLY want to game on the cheap, get AT LEAST an NVidia 9600. But i'm pretty sure you can find a series 4xxx from ATI to help you. I don't know my low-end videocards well enough to help you - but if you need a HighEnd videocard, just give me a shout out.
You could, also, go to the Neogaf Desktop PC thread, there's lots of good deals on hardware there.
Would this be considered a decent rocket launcher then?RubxQub said:
Because... it still sucks! I still get faster/more precise firing (and thus, more damage done to the enemies) with my Assault Rifle, since not all 3 rockets hit the target to do said damage.
RubxQub
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That rocket launcher shoots a bit slow, but otherwise is a good one for your level.drizzle said:X800? Holy hell, i didn't even know they made those on PCI Express. That's one hell of an old card.
Would this be considered a decent rocket launcher then?
Because... it still sucks! I still get faster/more precise firing with my Assault Rifle, since not all 3 rockets hit the target and do damage.
To ensure that you're getting all 3 rockets to hit, aim at their feet when jumping, don't shoot straight on.
X - - - - - O = bad
X
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Have you used it on Lance yet?drizzle said:Would this be considered a decent rocket launcher then?
Because... it still sucks! I still get faster/more precise firing (and thus, more damage done to the enemies) with my Assault Rifle, since not all 3 rockets hit the target to do said damage.
RubxQub said:
I'll use the easier version of your graphic:
Rocket Launchers = bad
I've been bunnyhopping like a mofo with that launcher and yeah, while it works at close range, at medium range it's just a joke. And at close range I have my Corrosive Shotgun that does the exact same job, without me jumping all over the place.
As a soldier, i don't like it. Don't know about brick's skills tho.
funkmastergeneral
Banned
SquallASF said:
I recall in my first run through there was actually a quest to go up and talk to that guy, which seems to be the case since he's not offering me anything. Just don't know how to get that one
RubxQub
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So frustrating, because I know this isn't true. It's just silly at this point trying to argue it.drizzle said:
The impact damage is insanely high, and the elemental effect after impact melts their health even more (a lot, actually) and makes them weaker to damage (corrosive).
All I know is that they don't suck, and I'll post my other weapons if people think I play with shitty guns.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
That is exactly what I do as well. Doesn't make the Helix Rocket Launchers any less unreliable than they already are however.RubxQub said:
Standard rocket lawnchairs > helix >>>>>> burst fire.
RubxQub
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NOOOOO!MicVlaD said:
How is it even possible that a helix launcher can be worse than a normal rocket launcher?
If you're aiming downwards, all 3 are going to at least land right next to the person, so all 3 will do their damage in some respect. The damage on helix launchers aren't less than regular launchers, so their damage potential is at worst equal, at best 3 times as good.
TrAcEr_x90
Member
drizzle said:X800? Holy hell, i didn't even know they made those on PCI Express. That's one hell of an old card.
The 9500 you linked is horrible. Hell, even the 9600 is horrible. If you REALLY want to game on the cheap, get AT LEAST an NVidia 9600. But i'm pretty sure you can find a series 4xxx from ATI to help you. I don't know my low-end videocards well enough to help you - but if you need a HighEnd videocard, just give me a shout out.
You could, also, go to the Neogaf Desktop PC thread, there's lots of good deals on hardware there.
Would this be considered a decent rocket launcher then?
Because... it still sucks! I still get faster/more precise firing (and thus, more damage done to the enemies) with my Assault Rifle, since not all 3 rockets hit the target to do said damage.
Just get the new 5770 radeon HD. My jaw dropped when I tried it out last night after installing it. I had all settings maxed except for AFx6. And it runs on my 350w psu. Thats not even the high end card either. For only 160-170, not sure for that price what could beat it.
RubxQub
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I've run into these as well. They always have some type of red text describing some special attribute they have, but they never seem nearly as exceptional as the yellow/orange/dark orange guns.Reallink said:
Seem like common guns with special properties, but not all the perks available to an orange.
arts&crafts
Member
Firestorm said:
Fair enough, I guess I will just order one. What is the best card I can get for under 100 Canadian? Should I check out tiger direct?
Higher whites are a glitch in the rarity system where the rarity index goes over 100 due to the bonus some red text can give the weapon.Reallink said:
Dark Orange goes up to 100, but if it goes over the game treats the color as a white at a higher index (which is why it is at the top).
practice02
Banned
I want to slap one of those into my rig and crossfire with my 4870. whats the 5770 power usage?TrAcEr_x90 said:
RubxQub said:
The GBX forum calls them "pearl" weapons. They are variously thought of as a hidden rarity, glitched whites that are too good, glitched oranges that aren't good enough, or just plain glitches.
@Practice: Crossfire requires 2 of the same model videocard.
AgentOtaku
Member
MicVlaD said:
Well I've been playing the PS3 version for a couple of hours now. Honestly it really is fine. Framerate doesn't bother me as I capped the PC version at 30fps anyways.
Feels better to control and more satisfying to shoot.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
And yet they don't, not with any consistency. I use rocket launchers all the time, I'm in the camp that's convinced they're actually proper weapons once you find a good specimen (same can be said about every other type of weapon), but I'm still of the belief that the Helix Launchers are wonky.RubxQub said:
- Sometimes only 1 Helix rocket will fully hit its target, whilst the other two will regularly touch the floor either too soon or too late (usually delivering hardly any damage as a result).
- Sometimes the splash damage doesn't even seem to work after they detonate right next to someone. Especially apparent against enemies behind cover. No, I didn't hit said cover.
- Sometimes one of 'em will blow up in my face 'cause it collided with my cover. Sometimes it won't, even if I didn't take a step back.
Downsides that I think only exist thanks to the twirling trajectory. I'd rather stick with a plain one-shot-at-a-time rocket launcher (whether or not its cartridge can only hold one missile) and not deal with those flaws, as well as having a more versatile model at the same time that isn't garbage at mid- or long-range.
Squall ASF
Member
funkmastergeneral said:
Hmm I don't think I had an indicator for him, I just ran up and talked to him but you tried it anyway and it still didn't work eh? I can think of a few other guys that give quests that you didn't mention, but they don't lead to other stuff I don't think, just stand alone quests. Besides the guy on the rocking chair near fyrestone, there's another guy, the one that gave you the quest to go the safehouse that gives more quests. I remember I missed the one where he has you shoot the Rakk crap off a fan and I was wondering how I didn't get the achievement. He's in the little hut close to the vending machines right next to Arill Hills. Not sure if I spelt the first word right. If you're coming out of fyrestone, you'd turn right and drive down that road all the way as far as it goes before forcing you to turn left I believe. There's also Scooter, the guy sitting behind that outside counter in New Haven right beside the new-u station.
RubxQub
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But again, helix launchers deal the same damage as regular launchers, only x 3.MicVlaD said:
Even if only 1 rocket is hitting, it's equally as good as the normal launcher. They don't use more ammo, and once you get used to the helix shape and how to consistently hit people, I can't ever imagine going back.
BobFromPikeCreek
Member
I've never seen someone so furiously defend something so objectively terrible.
Alright, I'm just trying to bug you at this point
RubxQub
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I just want to spread right in a sea of wrong.BobFromPikeCreek said:
It's all good, I'm sure I'm coming across as annoying as well.BobFromPikeCreek said:
I should just let it go, but I have issues with that.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Am I doing something wrong with my soldier?
When I'm playing with my friends in a 4 man group I have a support build where I'm usually healing and regening the whole time and doing some damage. Works great.
However in single player (second play through) with a combat rifle build I don't do enough damage. I think I'm level 37 and I have some mid 20's legendary combat rifles that are pretty terrible overall. Their clip size is 35 without talents and their damage is near 120, accuracy is in the 60's with fire rate around 10.
I tried farming New Haven on my first Play through but I never got a single good CR. I get TONS of excellent 500-600dmg sniper rifles and 300-400 dmg revolvers but the combat rifles are pure piss. It seems like the game is telling me I'm doing it wrong because finding a good combat rifle is nearly impossible. I also tried farming a chest in Arid Badlands on my Second Playthrough but I keep getting excellent sniper rifles and revolvers and crap for combat rifles.
Am I just forced to roll a hunter if I want to play single player through the second and third playthrough?
When I'm playing with my friends in a 4 man group I have a support build where I'm usually healing and regening the whole time and doing some damage. Works great.
However in single player (second play through) with a combat rifle build I don't do enough damage. I think I'm level 37 and I have some mid 20's legendary combat rifles that are pretty terrible overall. Their clip size is 35 without talents and their damage is near 120, accuracy is in the 60's with fire rate around 10.
I tried farming New Haven on my first Play through but I never got a single good CR. I get TONS of excellent 500-600dmg sniper rifles and 300-400 dmg revolvers but the combat rifles are pure piss. It seems like the game is telling me I'm doing it wrong because finding a good combat rifle is nearly impossible. I also tried farming a chest in Arid Badlands on my Second Playthrough but I keep getting excellent sniper rifles and revolvers and crap for combat rifles.
Am I just forced to roll a hunter if I want to play single player through the second and third playthrough?
practice02
Banned
Really? thats lame.Hawkian said:
Peronthious
Member
RubxQub said:
I have both a Helix that does 500-something x3 and a regular launcher that does 1000-ish, but aside from that they have similar stats. I've noticed that the regular launcher is more reliable than the helix.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Most of the time, Helix rocket launchers have lower base damage precisely because of the added multiplier even when they're at the same level. Much like how these two rocket launchers differ from one another damage wise because one has a bigger ammo clip:RubxQub said:
Not that these are the best examples because they're Legendaries with unique abilities, but it gets the idea across.
Might want to try co-op, whether or not you select the second playthrough. The loot that gets dropped usually becomes more varied if more players are involved, preferably each with a different character.Killdozer said:
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Playing through as soldier and I feel the same way. I usually end up using a revolver/shotgun/sniper rifle. Occasionally I'll use a SMG if it has a high rate of fire/reload speed. But the combat rifles seem, "meh."Killdozer said:
No 3rd playthrough. When you hit 50 everything is 48-51 though.Killdozer said:
I would give you my awesome MG (Level 28, Glorious Havoc), but I gave it to someone else
112, 88.8, 12.1
Mag of 72
Man that was one awesome gun. Didn't find a better one until level 50.
*That Launcher is insane
Well I was literally getting 10-15 load times in some places, and you were claiming it was a second or less for you.Hawkian said:
And with a 7200 rpm drive that shouldn't be happening for me. It may be faster now, or it may just be that I'm hosting.Anyway, as long as 5-10 is normal and Hawkian doesn't have magic 1-second loads, I'm good. The friends list finally works now that I am using my new crazy account. Even verifying the old one didn't help, I had to use the totally new email. The name should be GAFBlizzard, but you'll have to re-add me.
This is about $120:arts&crafts said:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...=OTC-sho6b0tCA-_-Video+Cards-_-XFX-_-14150369
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If your budget is pretty strict on that $100:
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*reads rest of thread* Yeah, 5-10 seconds is fine, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't "supposed" to be 1 second.
About rocket launchers, I spent forever taking down a lone badass bruiser last night (he had some sort of auto-aim flaming rocket launcher) which turned out to be a mediocre/normal double-clip rocket launcher. Unfortunately I lost that weapon along with my experience when I killed the game by accident.
Today I got a helix rocket launcher with decent damage and a 3 clip, so I can finally pull it out when I want to goof off. I gave someone else the first alien weapon I found, which fired a giant pink ball of energy really slowly. I assume I can always just do that boss fight again? Side note, if I want to fight Mad Mel again, how do I get him to respawn?
I got a primal masher, which does something ludicrous like 9x101 if you hit with all the shots (I've done like 1900 damage with it on a critical at level 23-24), but only has two shots in the clip. SO ANNOYING. :lol I also liked that one pistol I got had a little screen-looking scope instead of the normal scope.
About rocket launchers, I spent forever taking down a lone badass bruiser last night (he had some sort of auto-aim flaming rocket launcher) which turned out to be a mediocre/normal double-clip rocket launcher. Unfortunately I lost that weapon along with my experience when I killed the game by accident.
Today I got a helix rocket launcher with decent damage and a 3 clip, so I can finally pull it out when I want to goof off. I gave someone else the first alien weapon I found, which fired a giant pink ball of energy really slowly. I assume I can always just do that boss fight again? Side note, if I want to fight Mad Mel again, how do I get him to respawn?
I got a primal masher, which does something ludicrous like 9x101 if you hit with all the shots (I've done like 1900 damage with it on a critical at level 23-24), but only has two shots in the clip. SO ANNOYING. :lol I also liked that one pistol I got had a little screen-looking scope instead of the normal scope.