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[TheFallen]

So who's mostly playing single player only? Would anyone recommend the game based on SP alone, because that's where the majority of my time would be.

I have a solo character and a co-op character. I can tell you this:

Co-op is incredibly fun. It's faster paced and much more difficult. The loot is always better and overall it's a different experience. Just make sure to play with friends or GAF groups. Most of the GAF groups I've put together have been excellent. A lot of people on the list don't want to play co-op though, which is silly, you guys shouldn't have added yourselves.

Single player is still great. There are some things you just miss out on when playing co-op. You don't really have the time to sit there and compare items, open up all the loot chests and take in the entire game when you've got people waiting on you. You'll miss almost all of the backstory of Pandora. I know I couldn't ever hear the annoying voice of Tannis over the talking co-op players and never had the time to read (only skimmed) the mission logs.

If you're going to play Borderlands alone for the majority of the time you'll still enjoy yourself. It's a great game, regardless of the amount of players involved. 90% of the press reviews you've seen have been based on SP only. Jeff Gerstmann from Giant Bomb only played co-op for the first time when he did the Quick Look iirc.

 

[Anerythristic]

The only issue I have with co op is people need to learn how to be polite and loot properly.

I played with Dyslexic(sp?) a gaffer and he was an awesome looter, he found a chest called you over and you split the loot, we found a purple shotgun and he was playing soldier, he waited for me to give him the OK to take it.

I played with another gaffer that I wont call out by name, he pocketed an entire chest of purples after we just took down a sub boss with team work...I just quit.

 

[SlasherJPC]

Finished this last night in 4 player co-op. Level 37 hunter. Did every single mission! Total time was 1 day and 1 hour. Loved it. Started a new game +. Will be starting a new character hopefully sometime this weeekend to play with a buddy of mine that got the game as well.

Damn good game and while the ending is short, the battle to the end and final boss was damn epic so not sure why the ending is so frowned upon. Most games have shitty endings or no ending these days. I'm used to it. For me it was the journey to the end!

 

[Lord Phol]

How does the character ratio look online for people who have the game?
Interested in all platforms but the question is manly directed towards PS3 users.

*hint hint* anyone? :c

 

[Olivero]

So could we start posting are weapon pickups? So far I've found three purples. Anyone found an orange?
I'm playing hunter at level 22.
Equipped weapons:
RV10 B Vitriloic Justice (P) Revolver
D: 138
A: 94.8
FR: 1.3
3.7x zoom & x3 Corrosive
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LB470.2 Fearsome (B) Sniper
D:223
A:95.0
FR:1.4
+4 Magazine, 1.5x zoom, 150% Critical Hit Damage
---------------------------------------------

 

[Pimpbaa]

So who's mostly playing single player only? Would anyone recommend the game based on SP alone, because that's where the majority of my time would be.

I'm having a lot of fun playing single player.

 

[Teknoman]

I have a solo character and a co-op character. I can tell you this:

Co-op is incredibly fun. It's faster paced and much more difficult. The loot is always better and overall it's a different experience. Just make sure to play with friends or GAF groups. Most of the GAF groups I've put together have been excellent. A lot of people on the list don't want to play co-op though, which is silly, you guys shouldn't have added yourselves.

Single player is still great. There are some things you just miss out on when playing co-op. You don't really have the time to sit there and compare items, open up all the loot chests and take in the entire game when you've got people waiting on you. You'll miss almost all of the backstory of Pandora. I know I couldn't ever hear the annoying voice of Tannis over the talking co-op players and never had the time to read (only skimmed) the mission logs.

If you're going to play Borderlands alone for the majority of the time you'll still enjoy yourself. It's a great game, regardless of the amount of players involved. 90% of the press reviews you've seen have been based on SP only. Jeff Gerstmann from Giant Bomb only played co-op for the first time when he did the Quick Look iirc.

There are people in the Borderlands group that dont want to play co-op? Whats the point of being in the group then? Its just like being in the L4D group and not wanting to team up for campaign/versus.

 

[Anerythristic]

*hint hint* anyone? :c

From what I have seen and it's anecdotal Hunter / Soldier are common Brick and Lilith are simply less common.

So far I've found three purples. Anyone found an orange?

I got an orange drop of a random it wasn't even a boss, exciting as hell.

 

[Baker]

The hunter is broken. Half of his is tree is more damage, more damage faster, more damage more accurately, oh and also lets make sure your bullets bypass pesky shields.

Not the class to play if you want a challenge.

How does that make it broken? If you ask me, it makes it FUCKING AWESOME.

I slowly crawl into a new area and find a suitable vantage point.

BANG

Some guy's head explodes.

The multipliers start stacking up. My damage is increasing. My health is regenerating. My accuracy becomes impeccable.

BANG BANG BANG

Those baddies didn't just lose their heads. Their entire bodies simply and elegantly erupt in a fine, bloody mist.

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I don't get what your problem with bypassing shields is. It's an elemental attack and you'll find 50,000 weapons with it, so you can't single out the Hunter as being cheap. It's a necessary part of the game (just look at Sledge). I have fire and shock artifacts for Bloodwing that I switch out depending on the situation.

 

[anddo0]

Thanks, poweld and TheFallen.

I'm watching the Giantbomb quick look. I'll most likely pick this up next week.

There are people in the Borderlands group that dont want to play co-op? Whats the point of being in the group then? Its just like being in the L4D group and not wanting to team up for campaign/versus.

lol, I'll try out the co-op eventually. I tend to finish single player before venturing into the online realm. I didn't play RE5 co-op until half way through my second run.

 

[Keyser Soze]

What is this colour thing people are talking about with in regards to guns. Is it a quick way to notice a good gun without looking in-depth at the stats?

 

[chubigans]

Awesome, I'm gonna go pick it up today then. Thanks for the impressions!

 

[BobFromPikeCreek]

What is this colour thing people are talking about with in regards to guns. Is it a quick way to notice a good gun without looking in-depth at the stats?

Indicates quality/rarity.
The order is white, green, blue, purple, orange.

 

[Baker]

What is this colour thing people are talking about with in regards to guns. Is it a quick way to notice a good gun without looking in-depth at the stats?

It tells the rarity of the item and usually rarer = better.

White -> Green -> Blue -> Purple -> Orange

 

[Keyser Soze]

Thanks guys, was totally unaware of the colour rating

 

[ThirdEngine]

After bitching about not finding anything Legendary, I lucked out and had two orange and a yellow drop in the span of about 20 minutes. An SMG with regenerating ammo and nasty damage, a corrosive revolver that deals 250 damage with a x4 elemental chance, and a shock sniper rifle that will bypass shields. I am now very happy.

 

[Anerythristic]

How does that make it broken? If you ask me, it makes it FUCKING AWESOME.

Agrreeedd, I wasn't stating that broken equals BAD.



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I don't get what your problem with bypassing shields is. It's an elemental attack and you'll find 50,000 weapons with it, so you can't single out the Hunter as being cheap. It's a necessary part of the game (just look at Sledge). I have fire and shock artifacts for Bloodwing that I switch out depending on the situation.

I was talking about the Trespass skill which is awesome, it can make every bullet bypass shields no matter what element.

.......

 

[BioNut]

So how do yall think sales are going for boarderlands?

Think it can top 1 million in october on 360/ps3

Spoiler

and PC?

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Cant wait for PC version to begin..

So a thottbot or wowhead type database will begin.. Then we can just link the image cards of the weapons.. !

 

[ghostmind]

I have at least one orange - a shotgun with 263 dmg and a +450% dmg mod. Good times!

 

[Raide]

Played about an hour or so, love it!

 

[Deunnero]

So how do yall think sales are going for boarderlands?

Think it can top 1 million in october on 360/ps3

Spoiler

and PC?

Well, the 360 version of the game is nowhere to be found around here in Ottawa. I guess "SOLD OUT" can be interpreted as a success!

 

[Frawdder]

Well, the 360 version of the game is nowhere to be found around here in Ottawa. I guess "SOLD OUT" can be interpreted as a success!

Also being among the top sellers on Steam is promising.

 

[RS4-]

Level 25 solo soldier, having those class only equips are pretty handy lol.

Auto regen ammo is too good. Infinite shotgun and rocket :lol By the time I'm finished reloading, the shots I just fired are already back.

I gotta figure out the math on the turret skills, deploy and refire. The wording makes it a little...puzzling.

 

[Dunlop]

Well, the 360 version of the game is nowhere to be found around here in Ottawa. I guess "SOLD OUT" can be interpreted as a success!

yeah but in Canada, I think stores are holding back stock until the Walmart special ends

 

[Grecco]

Played co op finally yesterday with 3 friends. We spent half the time running into each other with the cars, or having duels. This game does have that Crackdown, make your own fun sort of thing.

 

[Wallach]

Level 25 solo soldier, having those class only equips are pretty handy lol.

Auto regen ammo is too good. Infinite shotgun and rocket :lol By the time I'm finished reloading, the shots I just fired are already back.

I gotta figure out the math on the turret skills, deploy and refire. The wording makes it a little...puzzling.

The turret skills work like this:

Deploy: Cuts the overall time required in half.

Refire: Cuts the time required by 5 seconds per hit, no more than once every 2 seconds.

Think of your Scorpio cooldown as a flat number. Default, it requires 100 to be able to deploy, and you passively gain 1 per second from the point that your last Scorpio despawned.

Deploy cuts that requirement to 50. Refire removes 5 every time it procs, but there's a brief CD on it. The catch is that Refire works as soon as you deploy your turret, even though the CD normally doesn't start until the turret dies.

 

[RS4-]

Alright thanks! I'll have to respec, just to take advantage of it all.

 

[TheFallen]

The only issue I have with co op is people need to learn how to be polite and loot properly.

I played with Dyslexic(sp?) a gaffer and he was an awesome looter, he found a chest called you over and you split the loot, we found a purple shotgun and he was playing soldier, he waited for me to give him the OK to take it.

I played with another gaffer that I wont call out by name, he pocketed an entire chest of purples after we just took down a sub boss with team work...I just quit.

If someone is a loot whore, please mention them in the Borderlands co-op thread so we can remove them from the list. That's kind of the point. You're supposed to play with GAFers so you don't get stuck with PUGs who are dicks.

 

[poweld]

If someone is a loot whore, please mention them in the Borderlands co-op thread so we can remove them from the list. That's kind of the point. You're supposed to play with GAFers so you don't get stuck with PUGs who are dicks.

But I'm a loot whore!

 

[Indrew]

Well, the 360 version of the game is nowhere to be found around here in Ottawa. I guess "SOLD OUT" can be interpreted as a success!

Phone the microplay on Merivale Rd. I got it two days ago there and they had a few copies left. Every EB I phoned was sold out, along with futureshop and bestbuy.

 

[womp]

Just snagged it last night and was able to get an hour under my belt before bed.

Quick question though - I'm playing as the Hunter and was wondering if there is the ability to dual wield pistols at some point? That would really kick ass!

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

I'm loving that game (level 11), but they really didn't mask that they were imitating WoW. The color code for the weapons is exactly the same, also the skill tree splitted in 3 branchs, etc.

Also, the Halo references in the FPS part are very clear.

But even with this, the mix of generes is very original and works perfectly.

They did the color coding on purpose.. so it wasnt a new system to confuse players.. They mimicked a lot of things and even said them in interviews.. not sure why you wouldnt expect it when for the past year they said they were doing it to make it easier on players to understand and relate too.

The only issue I have with co op is people need to learn how to be polite and loot properly.

I played with another gaffer that I wont call out by name, he pocketed an entire chest of purples after we just took down a sub boss with team work...I just quit.

I would call him out please. If you don't then we will run into the same issues if other GAFers play with him thus wasting our time.

So how do yall think sales are going for boarderlands?

Think it can top 1 million in october on 360/ps3

Spoiler

and PC?

Eh no.. this isn't like Halo or something .. It will do good though.

 

[elrechazado]

still looking for a resource that explains weapon modifiers. Like what does my pistol's flashing 7 on the damage number mean? I've seen that on shotties and seen some explanation, but people seem to disagree about what it means.

 

[elrechazado]

There are people in the Borderlands group that dont want to play co-op? Whats the point of being in the group then? Its just like being in the L4D group and not wanting to team up for campaign/versus.

Well in defense of the people on the list who maybe turned down an invitation or two, not all of us got on that list to coop every time an invite goes out. Sometimes I'm playing for 20 minutes and don't want to take a spot. Sometimes I'm waiting for rl friends to jump on. Just because someone says no right when you ask doesn't mean they're not ever cooping with Gaf. Just a thought.

 

[Wallach]

still looking for a resource that explains weapon modifiers. Like what does my pistol's flashing 7 on the damage number mean? I've seen that on shotties and seen some explanation, but people seem to disagree about what it means.

The flashing x7 means that each round fired has 7 points of impact, each one doing the listed damage (the number that flashes alternating with the x7).

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

still looking for a resource that explains weapon modifiers. Like what does my pistol's flashing 7 on the damage number mean? I've seen that on shotties and seen some explanation, but people seem to disagree about what it means.

I was under the impression that if your weapon flashes as x7 or x4 then it will multiply your ammo each shot..

So if my pistol had x4.. then 1 shot of ammo would actually be 4 bullets coming out but only take 1 piece of ammo from my inventory.

 

[The Chef]

TOO many games!

I still havent beat Uncharted. I'm planning on getting Demon Souls and Ratchet. I wanted to get Modern Warfare 2...God damn it when am I going to play this

 

[elrechazado]

I was under the impression that if your weapon flashes as x7 or x4 then it will multiply your ammo each shot..

So if my pistol had x4.. then 1 shot of ammo would actually be 4 bullets coming out.

I'm wondering if that multiplies my gun crazy skill (chance to fire two shots). Probably not, since it's not a "chance to fire double the amount of shots". But that would be awesome if my 7 shot pistol actually had a chance to shoot 14 shots

The thing I wonder is, how would a new player know what this means. It doesn't explain in game or in the manual.

 

[Ninja Moomin]

The only issue I have with co op is people need to learn how to be polite and loot properly.

I played with Dyslexic(sp?) a gaffer and he was an awesome looter, he found a chest called you over and you split the loot, we found a purple shotgun and he was playing soldier, he waited for me to give him the OK to take it.

I played with another gaffer that I wont call out by name, he pocketed an entire chest of purples after we just took down a sub boss with team work...I just quit.

LOL.... OMG.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Neverfade]

Anyone have the Tell Two Friends achievement I can grab? PM me!

 

[Amneisac]

still looking for a resource that explains weapon modifiers. Like what does my pistol's flashing 7 on the damage number mean? I've seen that on shotties and seen some explanation, but people seem to disagree about what it means.

I was getting ready to post the exact same question. I used to think it was how many rounds it fired (a coincidence early on) but that's not it, and it's not an elemental damage modifier. I don't get it. Of course, I also don't get some of the class mods that add to things that aren't really skills. I can't think of a good example but they're like +2 assault and stuff.

 

[Baker]

I played with Dyslexic(sp?) a gaffer and he was an awesome looter, he found a chest called you over and you split the loot, we found a purple shotgun and he was playing soldier, he waited for me to give him the OK to take it.

Yeah this is the way to play (of course).

It was hilarious the first night I was playing with some gaffers and we opened up a chest with a rocket launcher. We stood around for a good two minutes going "I dunno, do you want it?"

 

[bengraven]

I realized today I wouldn't have enough money until after Christmas to pick this up. And on PC. I hope there are people playing this, on PC, in three months.

 

[poweld]

I was under the impression that if your weapon flashes as x7 or x4 then it will multiply your ammo each shot..

So if my pistol had x4.. then 1 shot of ammo would actually be 4 bullets coming out but only take 1 piece of ammo from my inventory.

It doesn't take up ammo for each point in the multiplier. Think of it as a shell: when you fire one shell (how your ammo is packaged) the end result is several scattershot coming out. The damage listed is for each shot in the scatter, since all won't necessarily hit (shooting a shotgun from too far away).

So, each squeeze takes 1 off your ammunition, with a maximum amount of damage being the damage listed times the multiplier, with the least amount possible being 1x the damage listed (excluding whiffs).

 

[Neverfade]

I'm wondering if that multiplies my gun crazy skill (chance to fire two shots). Probably not, since it's not a "chance to fire double the amount of shots". But that would be awesome if my 7 shot pistol actually had a chance to shoot 14 shots

You are correct.

It took me a while to figure it out, but Gun Crazy effectively just doubles your damage, so X * 2 where X = connecting bullets would be your GC damage total.

Gotta love those Mashers!

 

[SirButterstick]

Is there a GAF group on Steam? Just got a new PC, looking to buddy up.

Damn, the wait until Tuesday is KILLING me.

 

[Zertez]

I'm loving that game (level 11), but they really didn't mask that they were imitating WoW. The color code for the weapons is exactly the same, also the skill tree splitted in 3 branchs, etc.

Also, the Halo references in the FPS part are very clear.

But even with this, the mix of generes is very original and works perfectly.

EQ had the color coded weapon tiers long before WoW, and more than likely EQ copied it from another game. Diablo 2 had a similar system. A lot of games use it now, because it works. Diablo 2 had the skill trees split into 3 branches as well. They set out to make a Diablo 2 type game, so it is not surprising they took some of the things that work with the game.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

It doesn't take up ammo for each point in the multiplier. Think of it as a shell: when you fire one shell (how your ammo is packaged) the end result is several scattershot coming out.

Uhh.. thats what I said.. hence my last line.. "It only takes 1 piece of ammo" as opposed to the x4 that most people would assume[/quote]

 

[Anerythristic]

LOL.... OMG.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

What? I don't remember how to spell it.