-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Boxing Discussion
- Thread starter cthoaa
- Start date
Syphon Filter
Member
huh?did you not see him vs cotto?
Watching Mayweather fight is probably the last great technical display in boxing.
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
Yep. He got caught. He was careless in that he wanted to make a statement leaving himself open more often.
I thought he looked good before the finish. Idk why people are saying he should retire, he has been KO'd before.
Anyway I want to see one more lol.
joeygreco1985
Member
When does Freddie Roach play the PED card again? Think he'll give it a day or two?
perineumlick
Member
A big part of the allure was the perception that Manny was the guy to beat the invincible PBF. That has been shattered. They are both past their prime; and Manny has never lost like that. Boxing is 90% mental; who knows how he'd respond to that brutal ko. And Marquez/Manny 5? Really, why bother?
Like Jones vs Tarver II.
Jones was looking great. One punch that he wouldn't have got caught with a couple fights before. Career over.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Filipino here.
'twas a great fight indeed. It was a well deserved win for JMM - it was a long time coming. I'd be up for a part 5, tbqh.
'twas a great fight indeed. It was a well deserved win for JMM - it was a long time coming. I'd be up for a part 5, tbqh.
JMM has never had a problem landing on manny though. He reads manny like a book.
IrishNinja
Member
must've been weird for romney to watch what the rest of us saw happen to him just over a month ago
this...he's a shitty human being & all that but an excellent fighter, top 10 defensive easily for me
this...he's a shitty human being & all that but an excellent fighter, top 10 defensive easily for me
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
Such brutality.
perineumlick
Member
He was basically a teenager then, and it was from a body shot. A LONG time ago.
FLoyd's planning two fights next year...one in May and another in September...strong possibility it's Guerrero then Canelo in September
difference is Jones was a much better boxer (defense) than Pac ever was. He relied loads on his reflexes and when age (and losing 15-20lbs of muscle) caught up to him, Tarver caught him with that punch from hell.
difference is Jones was a much better boxer (defense) than Pac ever was. He relied loads on his reflexes and when age (and losing 15-20lbs of muscle) caught up to him, Tarver caught him with that punch from hell.
pacman and marquez have both had a long career and are very lucky to be even fighting at such a high level at their age. a knockout like the one pacman took is not something a fighter at that age can just shake off. many fighters are never the same after getting brutally knocked out like that. my guess is that mayweather will fight marquez on the cinco de mayo weekend for a pretty big payday.
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
floyd and manny are nothing alike,never have been,never will be. manny's athleticism allowed him to make up for his many deficiencies in the ring. floyd has none that is exploitable. textbook and athletically gifted. not just that, floyd is controlled in the ring, manny is not. floyd knows where he is the ring at every moment, waiting to take advantage of the slightest of mistakes. also, he is a gymrat and does not overlook anyone.
perineumlick
Member
I can see that at the corner bar. It's called The Sweet Science for a reason. I like to see two guys who know how to fight, not soak up punishment till someone falls.
i don't like the way he gets trapped on the ropes recently
people say he does it intentionally but i dunno.....
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
What I should of said is that he's been finished before though not as devastating as tonight.
I still feel he has a couple more fights in him and he should get a chance to redeem himself against jmm.
Pac still thinks he can throw like he used to. Thats obviously part of the problem...
If you're an attacking fighter that has been successful as he has, then you don't get caught like he did - Pac pulls out of there safely 100% of the time just two years ago and jumps back in laying the pace like its exactly what he practices and expects from his body. One year ago he pulls out and is safe but has trouble controlling the fight like how we saw in his last two fights. Today? He doesn't even realize how he's leaving his face out there - and tomorrow he'll have to deal with the decline plus having his face reupholstered.
Officerrob
Banned
Marquez put that card on the table when he had Angel Hernandez "train" him
And that's the guy that knock the shit out of Pacquiao.
Mayweather will hilariously destroy Pacquiao now.
he was brutally knocked out, that's why it's a big deal.
perineumlick
Member
Yeah, I love to watch these guys fight each other, but 5 fights is a stretch, lol. They remind me of JMM's brother and Israel Vazquez; I can watch those guys go to war every weekend.
Dude just keeps his distance. With the mosley fight we saw what happens when he got to close... and it didnt look pretty. Of course that was long after mosleys prime, maybe thats why floyd chose to wait so long.
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
until proven otherwise, it is a psychological thing he does with opponents. to be so close but yet, not hit him. i agree though, i love watching it but i don't want him doing it often. if he boxes from the outside like the first four rounds against cotto then he beats everyone with ease.
CountAntonius
Member
Love Pacman and it was tough watching him go down like that but it was clean and went to a deserving guy. JMM earned it. Great fight.
wrong sport bro. I like a brawl as much as the next person, but watching a technician dismantle his opponent is quite entertaining IMO
Floyd knows he isn't as fast as he used to be... even Mobley almost chased him down.
But at least Floyd knows that and adapts. Manny has been trying to strong arm father time for the past three fights and hasn't even started to acknowledge it in his style.
perineumlick
Member
He's still full of shit, cause they had a hissy fit and took Floyd to court for saying the exact same stuff about Manny.
Manny has been trying to Bernard Hopkins the competition for the last 2 years, Hopkins was an anomally. I don't know how he stayed that good for so long. Everyone waited year after year for him to slow down and he eventually slowed down near 40 lol. Take that money and go be a congressmanny.
floyd called Mosley out in 2006...Mosley said he had a toothache and had to see his dentist first. GTFO lol.
who closed out that round going backwards? Who was going forward the entire rest of the fight? Floyd had one bad round and you guys act like that's what usually happens when he doesn't "run"...lol gtfo
well Floyd weighed in at 147 against JMM..JMM was 143
pac weighed in at 147...JMM 143....
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
shane had tooth aches and even after that punch, floyd walked him down that very round.
i see floyd losing by someone banking rounds by outworking him against the ropes or KO'ing him there
i think that is the way to do it if it's gonna happen
Mayweather got rocked and if dude had the same gas tank from even two years ago then Mayweather would've been screwed. Everyone could see how Mosley was gassed. Screw the pre-fight stories, Mayweather was damned lucky to be fighting a guy with a foot in a retirement home.
perineumlick
Member
Fixed.
When I was a wee lad I hated great boxers, Pernell Whitaker, Ray Leonard, Finito Lopez, Prince Naseem, until I realized 10 years later I didn't know crap about boxing. Same way a lot of cats do now, and thats cool. I mean dudes wanna see Rocky IV type fights in the ring, slobberknockers, blood going everywhere, 4 knockouts per fight. But the beauty is what some of these dudes like Floyd provide. Not getting hit, not getting hurt. But it's more for the hardcore, less for the casual fan. So I understand. But on the real, when you don't take things too seriously and who people are outside the ring, and their bragaddocio and twitter feeds it becomes easier to enjoy boxers.
so pac had JMM on wobbly street for half a round and he couldn't finish him...does he not have the same gas tank as before?
Shane caught Floyd with two good shots...I've always said Shane had the strongest single shot power in that division and Floyd was rocked good. But dude was coherent and didn't simply lay on the ropes..he made sure to throw back and pick his spots. He threw some body shots fending off Shane, pushed him back and dominated the rest of the fight.n It's not like Shane was teeing off on him freely and simply "gassed" and stopped.
Shane caught Floyd with two good shots...I've always said Shane had the strongest single shot power in that division and Floyd was rocked good. But dude was coherent and didn't simply lay on the ropes..he made sure to throw back and pick his spots. He threw some body shots fending off Shane, pushed him back and dominated the rest of the fight.n It's not like Shane was teeing off on him freely and simply "gassed" and stopped.
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
even during the leadup to the fight, nazzim told him, after you hit floyd with your best shot, he is going to come back like a fire breathing dragon. floyd got caught then proceeded to whitewash shane all night long.
Syphon Filter
Member
no,he can still fight bradley.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I would maybe be happy for JMM had he not dedicated his victory to fucking Enrique Peña Nieto. :/
IrishNinja
Member
good post.
wait, Naseeum was great? i only saw clips, took him for a Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! character
ps what's EPO
That is nice avatar material.