Man, this fight ain't gonna be nothing. Alexander showed how to beat Maidana, watch what Floyd does/
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Man, this fight ain't gonna be nothing. Alexander showed how to beat Maidana, watch what Floyd does/
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Floyd is going to box circles around him, it's going to be a clinic. This isn't an untested Broner, Maidana (despite being a fun fighter to watch and a legit bad motherfucker) brings NOTHING to the table that Mayweather hasn't already seen or has trouble with.
I don't know if he even wins one round.
I don't know if he even wins one round.
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Meh, at least Kahn brought speed to the table (along with a shitty chin and stamina, lol).
I really hope Bradley wins and then fights Floyd in a mega fight in the fall. Fuck this Cold War nonsense.
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Deserves the shot more so than Khan. However, still outmatched. He's going to be thinking he is stepping in the ring with Broner 2.0, when in reality it's a different situation entirely. He will get schooled, and it will not be pretty.
More excited about Sergio and Cotto, and I hope Sergio is in similar shape as he was against Murray, because then it could get entertaining. If he is close to 100%, he will probably beat down Miguel with that hand speed. I'm a big Cotto fan, and I hate to admit that.
Also, concerning Zou Schming (sp?) he is a bit of an arrogant prick considering he fights kids all the time. And the ref did a terrible job ruling it a slip, when it was obvious that Zou had been knocked down by a right hand. Obviously, he was going to win regardless, he wasn't really hurt by the punch, just knocked off balance. Still, the 10 second reprieve could have made a difference for Yokthong.
More excited about Sergio and Cotto, and I hope Sergio is in similar shape as he was against Murray, because then it could get entertaining. If he is close to 100%, he will probably beat down Miguel with that hand speed. I'm a big Cotto fan, and I hate to admit that.
Also, concerning Zou Schming (sp?) he is a bit of an arrogant prick considering he fights kids all the time. And the ref did a terrible job ruling it a slip, when it was obvious that Zou had been knocked down by a right hand. Obviously, he was going to win regardless, he wasn't really hurt by the punch, just knocked off balance. Still, the 10 second reprieve could have made a difference for Yokthong.
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I know floyd will win but you realize maidana is a different fighter after the fight with Devon right?
UrbanDandy
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I was also thinking this. If these words come out floyd's mouth and was one of the reason's why he picked Maidana, then he's the worst type of person and a bigger asshole that I've seen in a while.
Expect it to happen. The whole Broner and Floyd "brother" relationship will be used as a tool to promote the fight.
How can you call it a bottle job though? It's what the fans wanted. The fighter that deserved it more got the fight. He's fought (and it a champion) at the weight. It makes sense.
It's time to face facts people. I doesn't matter who Mayweather fights now at 147, no one is in his class. Until either Pacman or Bradley leaves Top Rank, Mayweather won't be in a competitive fight (unless he moves up)
As I had said above I would have prefered Khan. Oh well, still a compelling fight. I pick Mayweather to win but I think it will be an exciting athletic display. Maidana will be on him all night. Mayweather will have to do a lot to win, but I have no doubt that he will rise to the occasion.
This. I don't pick Maidana will win but he is a much more legitimate opponent than Guerrero. Maidana is arguably Goldenboy's number 2 fighter at 147 (behind Floyd). Is there anyone that you would rank higher? I would like to hear the argument.
This is unfortunately a possibility as well.
I was actually really looking forward to the Broner-Maidana rematch. That is probably my biggest disappointment with this match-up.
I agree regarding Khan, but what can you do. I'm still excited to see where he goes from here. There have been a lot of whispers about how good he has looked in the gym with Virgil Hunter at his new weight of 147. In a sense I am happy that the Mayweather fight isn't happening now because he will be able to further legitimize himself with 1-2 nice wins at 147. Also, one would think that a fight with Kell Brook would be huge in England. It's also a very legit fight.
I agree. Everyone lost their shit when Thurman beat Soto Karass but Maidana knocked him out in 2012 (granted the circumstances were very different). Also, the win over Broner was truly his career best. By all measures he has improved tremendously since he started with Robert Garcia.
I agree, and this completely emasculated Broner. I wanted to see Broner take the fight for himself.
I completely disagree with you here. I think the one clear reason why he took this fight over the Khan fight was money. I'm sure that the people behind the scenes said that this would be bigger. Khan was the semi-announced opponent going back to last fall.
Floyd and his people then sat back to see if anything more interesting would come out of Goldenboy's large number of welterweight fights at the end of the year:
Shawn Porter vs. Devon Alexander
Keith Thurman vs. Jesus Soto Karass
Paul Malignaggi vs. Zab Judah
Adrien Broner vs. Marcos Maidana
Ultimately nothing truly scintillating came out of these fights. Broner was obviously supposed to beat Maidana and Maidana forced Floyd's hand when he refused to fight Broner this spring. I think Floyd ultimately couldn't turn down his most lucrative potential opponent.
I agree completely. Even if Floyd beats all of the guys listed above his legacy won't likely improve over where it is now. But I still want to see those fights. Floyd is still the most compelling fighter in the sport. He can do things that no one else can do and he is still undefeated after 17 years in the sport.
The only fights that will expand his legacy at this point are with the Top Rank guys or all the way up at 160. I don't think he even has any business worth doing at 154, except maybe with Lara. And that fight would be a stinker.
I don't think he is going to be surprised here. I think that's being kind of disrespectful to Maidana. Again, I don't pick him to win, but I fully believe that he and Robert Garcia will come in with valid gameplan.
I agree that it is a more exciting fight than Floyd's. Both of those guys are past their prime but it is somehow a perfectly calibrated match-up. I am strongly thinking about buying tickets to the fight.
I agree all around. It definitely should have been ruled a knockdown but he also wasn't hurt. It was more about Zou being off balance while flailing uncoordinated punches at his hurt opponent to try to stop him.
Also, yes, he has been a dick to his opponents in his fights. He is fighting made to order opponents at this stage in his career. It would be like an Olympic sprinter beating a high school sprinter and then taunting him. No class.
I'm still interested to see what top rank can get out him. This was still only his 4th pro fight. He should continue to develop as a pro.
The fans actually voted for the fight to be with Khan. The problem is though is that Khan is fast and Mayweather doesn't want to fight someone with fast hands. Yes Khan is chinny but at least he would give mayweather trouble.
The Insinuation that Mayweather is afraid of anything Amir Khan has to offer is ridiculous on every level.
Da fuck?
The main reason he's going with this fight isn't because he's "scared" slightly of Khan, it's because he can sell the "he beat the clone but can he beat the original" angle for this fight. What's the sell for the Khan fight........ yeah don't think too hard for that one.
Jest Chillin
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Khan fans rallied for him to win that. Not boxing fans in general. I mean shit that poll only had like 35k voters total. Khan doesn't have anything that would give Mayweather trouble. Maidana at least has the longshot possibility of landing something hard enough to make a difference.
Maidana really is the better of the two fights, even if only slightly.
LOL at this, avoiding somebody with average power, a shit chin and a shit recent record to go up against somebody worth power and impressive recent performance.
Khan's twitter followers boosted him big time (over a million versus Maidana's 100k or so) so a bit of a skewed poll to go off. ESPN and another boxing site both had polls in favour of Maidana.
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FIGHTHYPE.COM ‏@fighthype 5m
AMIR KHAN SAYS HE'S "VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH FLOYD AND HIS TEAM"; CLAIMS MAYWEATHER AVOIDED FIGHTING HIM http://dlvr.it/51LSbr #fighthype
lmao khan is salty
AMIR KHAN SAYS HE'S "VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH FLOYD AND HIS TEAM"; CLAIMS MAYWEATHER AVOIDED FIGHTING HIM http://dlvr.it/51LSbr #fighthype
lmao khan is salty
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Both fights are shit.
Kahn was the one I favored to see how Floyd handled someone who had fast hands and would try to box him from the outside. Kahn also has a shit chin, no ability to actually implement a game plan, suspect stamina, and the superpower to shart himself in his biggest fights.
Maidana has a lot of power, but showing a sloppy jab in his last few fights certainly doesn't make me a believer that he is going to do anything different than the last few Mayweather fights as a brawler who gets in close, gets pottshotted and then follows Floyd around for 12 rounds. He looked pretty damn buttflustered against the god awful Devon Alexander and went life and death with Eric Morales corpse.
Neither fight is 70$ PPV worthy. At least Maidana is coming off the Broner win so there's something to try and sell.
So once again, Floyd UD 12. Without the hands of glass, he could prob stop a frustrated Maidana late. They really need to build up an opponent for him for the fall if the stupid promotional cold war is going to stop it being against the Bradley/Manny winner.
Kahn was the one I favored to see how Floyd handled someone who had fast hands and would try to box him from the outside. Kahn also has a shit chin, no ability to actually implement a game plan, suspect stamina, and the superpower to shart himself in his biggest fights.
Maidana has a lot of power, but showing a sloppy jab in his last few fights certainly doesn't make me a believer that he is going to do anything different than the last few Mayweather fights as a brawler who gets in close, gets pottshotted and then follows Floyd around for 12 rounds. He looked pretty damn buttflustered against the god awful Devon Alexander and went life and death with Eric Morales corpse.
Neither fight is 70$ PPV worthy. At least Maidana is coming off the Broner win so there's something to try and sell.
So once again, Floyd UD 12. Without the hands of glass, he could prob stop a frustrated Maidana late. They really need to build up an opponent for him for the fall if the stupid promotional cold war is going to stop it being against the Bradley/Manny winner.
Dominican Power
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Another shitty Mayweather fight.
Syphon Filter
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How you figure?
Eh, it's a cherry pick however you look at it. It's the best option out of the two shitty choices presented.
perineumlick
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Maidana is far from a shitty fighter. He's a live threat to any welterweight out there; problem is Mayweather is just that much better than everyone else.
This. People are going to keep saying this though unless he goes up to 160.
Or unless he takes a pay cut and faces the Top Rank fighters.
Dmncnby2k9
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cmon Khan does not deserve this fight. his recent resume looks like crap. Maidana has been more impressive lately. and more people know his name after upsetting Broner.
Boy Wander
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I want to see Kell Brook demolish Khan this year....
I hope that fight gets made this year.
I said shitty choice, not fighter.
As for Brook, I'm past caring about him. Bored shitless if the this year's my year bollocks.
Team Khan announces their shortlist now that the Mayweather fight has evaporated:
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/khan-camp-names-opponent-short-list-237776
Regarding Peterson, I am a longtime fan and that fight would make sense for both fighters. Maybe they could do it in England this time to even things out after the last fight took place in DC.
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/khan-camp-names-opponent-short-list-237776
I would most like to see him in with Porter or Peterson with Porter being the more interesting match-up for me. Even though he has only just now burst onto the stage with his win over Alexander, I have seen Porter fight ~6 times on ShoBox cards and various undercard matches over the last 4 years. He fought at middleweight as an amatuer and I think that he might be able to make waves at 147. A fight with Khan would be a great test for both men.
Regarding Peterson, I am a longtime fan and that fight would make sense for both fighters. Maybe they could do it in England this time to even things out after the last fight took place in DC.
I would like any of those fights. But given that list, we already know he's gonna chose Malignaggi.
I love Paulie but I think a Khan rematch is pointless. Porter would be interesting. What's Matthysse up to nowadays? I thought Khan was moving up as making 140 was killing him, at least according to him?
The fight makes sense for Khan but not for Malignaggi. Khan KOed Malignaggi in their previous fight and he could win a belt by doing it again.
From Malignaggi's end, he has said that he's holding out for Floyd. He's pulling the "I'm close to retirement" card. He knows that he's vulnerable and he wants to make the biggest payday possible before he hangs up his gloves. Whether that fight ever materializes or not is another question.
Khan already KOed him. The only reason that fight would happen is if Malignaggi were totally sure that he could avenge the loss.
His next fight is almost certainly going to be at 147. The speculation is that the Peterson fight would take place at 147 (or a catch weight) so that Peterson could keep his belt even if he lost. Peterson got KOed by Matthysse at 141 and yet kept his belt.
Matthysse is rumored to return on the Mayweather-Maidana undercard. It looks like Richard Shafer is still trying to develop Matthysse into a Mayweather opponent.
Malignaggi had already said as much. And as he's always saying, very candidly, he only fights for the money these days. He hates the politics side of boxing, and the chances of him getting the Mayweather fight are slim to none.
Khan will want that fight, and I'm sure his camp would offer Malignaggi the right amount of money for it, as tight as they are, haha.
I personally wouldn't mind seeing him fight Peterson or Broner at either weight. Heck I think Alexander is still a viable option.
...Interesting. I hadn't heard this.
The fight makes perfect sense for Khan. If Malignaggi wants it then I agree that it could actually happen. A win over Khan this spring could earn him Mayweather's fall slot.
I've definitely heard him tell it to Ellie Seckbach. Tracking the video down will be a pain though. He would give Khan a good fight but in my opinion I think he still loses by decision. The second half the fight would be interesting though, because Khan fades towards the end.
illmatic22
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About to watch Salido and Lomachenko fight
EDIT: Salido up a few rounds already, Lomachenko looking like the lack of experience is a problem.
EDIT: Salido up a few rounds already, Lomachenko looking like the lack of experience is a problem.
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Lomachenko looking kind of blah.
Also: Shobox was fun again last night, people need to start watching it!
illmatic22
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Badou Jack getting ko'd was a surprise.
Even fight now, Salido getting a lot done inside and Lomachenko getting everything upstairs.
Salido has been going too low however.
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illmatic22
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lol Khan, fight and beat someone of consequence first, than talk.
Wow this ref was ridiculous, Salido must have set the world record for low blows tonight.
And Lomachenko hurt Salido and may have earned a draw or win. Who knows, wow what a finish.
EDIT: Wow, split decision for Salido. Salido was overweight, didn't even try to make weight. He threw a ton of low bows, it's crazy that he barely got any warning. At the same time, that what veterans do, they use every trick they can to win a fight.
Lomachenko's handlers were wrong to put him in this fight right after his pro debut.
Wow this ref was ridiculous, Salido must have set the world record for low blows tonight.
And Lomachenko hurt Salido and may have earned a draw or win. Who knows, wow what a finish.
EDIT: Wow, split decision for Salido. Salido was overweight, didn't even try to make weight. He threw a ton of low bows, it's crazy that he barely got any warning. At the same time, that what veterans do, they use every trick they can to win a fight.
Lomachenko's handlers were wrong to put him in this fight right after his pro debut.
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Ref should have taken multiple points from both men. Lomachenko hype train derailed, and the HBO excuse machine is in overdrive.
Not sure why they thought it would be a good idea to match him against a B level crafty veteran other than believing their own press.
Not sure why they thought it would be a good idea to match him against a B level crafty veteran other than believing their own press.
illmatic22
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There is a reason why you rarely hear about young fighters going for a belt so early in their pro careers, this was a bad idea.
perineumlick
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I saw some special things in Lomachenko. He's hard to hit solid, at least upstairs, and has good hand speed and combos; he moves very well. This style matchup was all wrong for him though; Salido is one of the best pressure fighters around, and crafty too. Gotta give him props for weathering that body attack, and those low blows, and going 12 hard rounds without wilting, even finishing strong against a guy like Salido this early in his career. The fight was ugly, but I think Lomachenko has a bright future.
perineumlick
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I so want to see Chavez Jr savaged by either Golovkin or Ward. I don't know why, but he just irks me.