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"They thought I was just going to wait and that I only had one option. They underestimated me. They thought I wasn't going to look at other options. I was the last Golden Boy fighter to fight on HBO before the Cold War. How ironic that I am now the first fighter/partner of Golden Boy to get back on HBO to open the flood gates." ~ Hopkins.
UrbanDandy
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What does this mean?
Ninja Scooter
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He's an alien.
UrbanDandy
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Instead of Hopkins, I want Kovalev vs either Ward or Froch, though I'm leaning heavily towards Froch.
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Al Haymon tried to screw Hopkins out of the IBF belt, Hopkins double crossed him by going to HBO and signing to fight Kovelev.
BadAss2961
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So is this where Hopkins gets knocked out? I have a hard time imaging how he'll survive against a beast like Kovalev, but he always pulls it off somehow. Even when he loses, it's an ugly, frustrating fight for his opponent.
Heebie Jeebies
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Kovalev was chasing a fight with Stevenson, it was a great fan friendly fight. Stevenson however 'crossed the street' to Showtime and signed with Al Haymon, seemingly with a view of fighting Hopkins in the future. However Hopkins has since said there has never been serious negotiations for a fight with Stevenson, and with an IBF mandatory looming Hopkins needed a unification fight to get out of it. Haymon it seems thought the only option for a unification fight was Stevenson, so tried to corner Hopkins. Hopkins however smashed the 'Cold War' wall and signed to fight Kovalev on HBO for the unification instead.
It's amazingly glorious.
Kovalev makes enough mistakes for Bhop to capitalise upon and win a snoozefest on points.
Avon Barksdale
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I'm hoping Kovalev knocks Hopkins into retirement already.
Am I the only one who though that Drakulich was disqualifying Rios (and not Chaves) at the time of the stoppage?
When that moment hit in the 9th round, at first I thought he was breaking their clinch, and then Rio started screaming (and Chavez had a shocked look on his face in response to Rios' loss of control), and as then, as the fight was being waved off, Rios had to be physically restrained.
I was watching it with my GF and we were both trying to track what was going on in the aftermath of Drakulich waving it off. At first I thought he had disqualified Chavez, but then when I saw Rios screaming I assumed that he was disqualifying Rios (due to to Rios' complete lack of self-control). She actually thought Drakulich had simply waved off the fight (with the outcome to be decided by the scorecard).
This has to be by far the worst move by a ref I have ever seen (aside from fights that were allowed to go too long and fighters got injured) and this wasn't close to being the dirtiest fight I've ever seen. What the hell Drakulich? The fouls just weren't that bad. And now the winning fighter has a loss to Rios on his record.
When that moment hit in the 9th round, at first I thought he was breaking their clinch, and then Rio started screaming (and Chavez had a shocked look on his face in response to Rios' loss of control), and as then, as the fight was being waved off, Rios had to be physically restrained.
I was watching it with my GF and we were both trying to track what was going on in the aftermath of Drakulich waving it off. At first I thought he had disqualified Chavez, but then when I saw Rios screaming I assumed that he was disqualifying Rios (due to to Rios' complete lack of self-control). She actually thought Drakulich had simply waved off the fight (with the outcome to be decided by the scorecard).
This has to be by far the worst move by a ref I have ever seen (aside from fights that were allowed to go too long and fighters got injured) and this wasn't close to being the dirtiest fight I've ever seen. What the hell Drakulich? The fouls just weren't that bad. And now the winning fighter has a loss to Rios on his record.
Hopkins has pushed the ejection button in two past fights by claiming questionable injuries . If he's getting beaten up, he will simply figure out a way to escape.
http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=8400
http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=623522
We will never see Hopkins face-first on the canvas.
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Kovelev has never been past 8 rounds. He's never fought anyone near the level of skill of Hopkins. His power is fantastic, but Hopkins has a way of making you fight his fight.
Hopkins will take him to deep waters and eek out a split decision. After the fight no one will be able to understand why Kovelev stood in front of him and didn't throw punches.
Hopkins will take him to deep waters and eek out a split decision. After the fight no one will be able to understand why Kovelev stood in front of him and didn't throw punches.
I personally think Kovelev is a tier above guys like Jean Pascal and Tavoris Cloud who had fights like that against Hopkins. We shall see.
UrbanDandy
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Does Haymon have a stake in Showtime? From what I've heard of him, he's a shadowy figure.
My understanding is that he and Richard Schaefer (former Golden Boy CEO) had plans to ultimately start a boxing network in the vein of the WWE network. So, no Haymon does not have a stake in Showtime. This is part of the reason that Golden Boy / Haymon fighters no longer appear on HBO.
This is somewhat relevant since he'll probably need to use a similar but modified gameplan to beat Kovalev.
Bernard Hopkins vs. Kelly Pavlik
Bernard Hopkins vs. Kelly Pavlik
Syphon Filter
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anyone watching garcia vs salka? not that interesting but i'll watch it.
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I'm watching it too, even though its a shit fight. I was a big Garcia fan until recently so I hope Salka can pull a win out of his ass.
Also: On NBCSN, Derrick Rossy got jobbed on the cards in a heavyweight fight worthy of old school Tuesday Night Fights
perineumlick
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Santana is going to be shitting blood cakes after all those body shots from Peterson.
perineumlick
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Flown to the moon.
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Salka destroyed. Feel kinda bad for the dude, he was way over his head.
Peterson/Garcia next, no more of this bullshit.
Peterson/Garcia next, no more of this bullshit.
Syphon Filter
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wtf i go to do something and already its over,didn't even get to see it lol.
perineumlick
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I think Garcia KOs Peterson. He likes to load up, and Garcia has mastered that counter hook.
Good luck to him. Must've taken a massive set of balls to go public.
IrishNinja
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Really impressive knockdown by Figueroa vs Estrada then. Used a large cut as bait and sucked Estrada in then dropped him with a huge right hand. Very smart.
Syphon Filter
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Who yall got? shawn porter or kell brook? I got porter,he is the future.
Heebie Jeebies
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Porter. Brook has never impressed me tbh, the hype around him completely passed me lol.
I think Summer Slam has come early with this fight.
I think Summer Slam has come early with this fight.
He fights like a club fighter.
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Way too much holding in this fight. Porter jumping in and smothering his shots and Brook holding like crazy. Zzzzzzz
illmatic22
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SummerSlam will be more entertaining than this. I'm thinking of watching that BKB stuff instead.
illmatic22
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And the crowd boos. God bless them.
Secret_asian_man
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Sky Sports had Porter winning on Jim Watt's unofficial score cards
Syphon Filter
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Reminds me of porter vs alexander
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Yuck. Too bad they both couldn't lose.
Porter is the common denominator with his bum rushing style.
Syphon Filter
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Well cant say he didn't deserve it. Disappointed in porter.
illmatic22
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Brook holds way too much for my liking, but Porter did not fight like a champion.
I really don't think he had much choice with the way Porter was rushing in