Team Golovkin deserves it. Oscar is just giving them the same treatment they gave to Ward. After all the bullshit Team Golovkin fed to the public, it's rather enjoyable seeing them on the other end of the duck.
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Team Golovkin deserves it. Oscar is just giving them the same treatment they gave to Ward. After all the bullshit Team Golovkin fed to the public, it's rather enjoyable seeing them on the other end of the duck.
Ward fights at 168 now. GGG hasn't shown interest in moving past 160 as far as I know.
The Ward Golovkin negotiations ended because Golovkin had already finalized the fight with Lemieux, and following that, would be in line for the mandatory for the 160 belt which at the time would be held by the winner of Cotto Canelo.
Ward needs to stop sitting on his ass. I guess Canelo is just following Wards plan, delay and claim GGG is ducking him while never intending to actually fight him.
CopperPuppy
Member
Ward actually fights at 175 now.
When GGG-Ward was even hinted at, Ward fought at 168. At the time, and as he still is now, Golovkin is concerned with unifying titles at 160. Obviously he would pursue a Canelo fight over a Ward fight - Golovkin has been the mandatory challenger to that title for a minute now, not to mention the fact that they are matched perfectly for size despite Canelo usually being the heavier man in the ring.
LOL at equating Canelo-Golovkin negotiations to Ward-Golovkin trash-talking. That fight was never in serious consideration nor should it have been. Ward had difficulties making 168 as it stood and is naturally suited to 175. Moving up was a better career move than fighting GGG and will produce the best fight boxing has to offer - SOG v. Krusher.
When GGG-Ward was even hinted at, Ward fought at 168. At the time, and as he still is now, Golovkin is concerned with unifying titles at 160. Obviously he would pursue a Canelo fight over a Ward fight - Golovkin has been the mandatory challenger to that title for a minute now, not to mention the fact that they are matched perfectly for size despite Canelo usually being the heavier man in the ring.
LOL at equating Canelo-Golovkin negotiations to Ward-Golovkin trash-talking. That fight was never in serious consideration nor should it have been. Ward had difficulties making 168 as it stood and is naturally suited to 175. Moving up was a better career move than fighting GGG and will produce the best fight boxing has to offer - SOG v. Krusher.
Canelo has the lineal Middleweight title, GGG wants to unify, how is he ducking Ward who fights at light heavyweight?
BadAss2961
Member
Definitely not fair to be rushing GGG into fighting Ward. Let him get a chance at cleaning out his own division before demanding he move up.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Canelo:
Terrified of GGG @ 160
Terrified of GGG @ 160
Ether_Snake
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What the fuck, who was that fool lol
Fight happening in the ring post fight.
These ring girls are so hot.
Fight happening in the ring post fight.
These ring girls are so hot.
Ether_Snake
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Goodness, what's going on at Box Nation?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Goodness, what's going on at Box Nation?
Is that supposed to represent how old Canelo and GGG will look before the finally fight?
Ether_Snake
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lol I don't know, Steve Bunce is asking people to send him pictures of boxers with great facial, first one they got was a picture of Yosemite Sam lol
Steve Lillis having none of it
edit: Haha, they showed a picture of Margarito, and Bunce says "Look at that! Margarito! At the peak of his time! Well... maybe not... maybe it was before the drugs."
edit2: Welp I guess that was Mosley's last fight ever.
lightskintwin
Banned
Golovkin should've did everything in his power to pursue a Ward fight. Now he's 34 years old and squandering his prime fighting mediocre to decent opposition in a talent poor division chasing Canelo so he can be involved in a big fight. The fucked up thing is we may never know how good or great Golovkin ever is because he has yet to even fight a really good to great fighter yet; mostly not Golovkin's blame as it is the talent in his division. However he had an opportunity to fight a top P4P, future hall of famer in his prime and him and his handlers chose the "unifying the division titles" reasoning instead, which funnily didn't come up when potential fights with Chavez Jr. and Froch at 168 were being discussed.
Syphon Filter
Member
That is one cool pic, any context? R.I.P.
There's this Nick Arce dude who is always at stubhub as an undercard. Dude is from here in LA and draws a huge crowd buy I swear he's like the most boring fighter ever. Plus the dudes he gets lined up with. Like right now 9 wins 8 losses 2 KO. Like I just don't this dude's hype he doesn't even roll over these dudes. Even his KOS are whatever.
Like we're sixth round and this dude has been outboxing him I guess but it's hard to not outbox a tree stump. Falling asleep. Also this Corona was 15 bills. Robbery.
Like we're sixth round and this dude has been outboxing him I guess but it's hard to not outbox a tree stump. Falling asleep. Also this Corona was 15 bills. Robbery.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
If you aren't watching Salido v Vargas on HBO right now.. fucking turn this shit on.. NOW.
Kitschkraft
Member
Best fight I've seen in quite some time.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Salido coming on big time... had Vargas in real trouble there.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
goddamn.. such a great fight.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Final round
Let's get it on
Let's get it on
Kitschkraft
Member
Wonderful fight. I had it for Salido but I can see either way to be honest. Really tough to score. HBO has it a draw and I can't be mad.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Nah, I love Salido... dude will fight anyone and will go to war to try and win.
Just a fighter through and through.
So the official decision is:
115-113 Vargas
114-114 x 2 Draw
Draw
REMATCH.
Just a fighter through and through.
So the official decision is:
115-113 Vargas
114-114 x 2 Draw
Draw
REMATCH.
Kitschkraft
Member
115-113 Vargas
114-114
114-114
No complaints from me.
Edit : Beaten
I agree, I'd love to see it again.
114-114
114-114
No complaints from me.
Edit : Beaten
I agree, I'd love to see it again.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Spike is showing this doc right now where they interview various guys about their fights with Ali. Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton, Leon Spinks...and every single goddamn one of them has subtitles when they speak because their speech is so goddamn slurred. Man this is some sad shit.
UrbanDandy
Member
I have it on DVD. Saddest part was Frazier's.
Kitschkraft
Member
It's why I think Foreman losing to Ali (And subsequently, losing his heart to fight for a few decades) was a blessing in disguise for him. He got out and remained the most healthy of the lot. Ali fought every single big name in his era, securing his place as the greatest, but he also took the most punishment.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Liam Smith says he's been offered the Canelo fight, his promotor says:
"We have something very special in the pipeline for him, a September blockbuster that will stir the juices of fight fans everywhere. We should be in a position to reveal all very soon so watch this space,"
The duck is 99.9% locked in.
"We have something very special in the pipeline for him, a September blockbuster that will stir the juices of fight fans everywhere. We should be in a position to reveal all very soon so watch this space,"
The duck is 99.9% locked in.
BadAss2961
Member
Willie Nelson's 6'3 at light-middleweight and is trying to fight like he's Tyson.
Great performance by Andrade. Molina-Provodnikov was a fun action fight.
Phenomenal performance by Lomachenko. Damn.
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Phenomenal performance by Lomachenko. Damn.
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CopperPuppy
Member
Loma and Andrade both looked great. Thankfully, the divisions around both of those guys are fairly stacked. Hopefully spells good matchups for these two in the near future.
Nice.Lets go! Ward vs Kovalev set for Nov 19!
Almost certainly the most important fight of the year.
IrishNinja
Member
Lets go! Ward vs Kovalev set for Nov 19!
I don't know how they came up with those values, but I bet they're close to dead on.
lightskintwin
Banned
Those values are about right, although Ward has faster hands than Kovalev.