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Who was that pretentious and condescending HBO interviewer, who did indeed keep interrupting Mayweather in his after fight speech? What a twat.
As soon as I saw the HBO logo and the interviewer in my head I was thinking "Why?". Should have had one of the Sky Brit boys on it. You know, journalists who actually show some respect for a fighter who not only just won the fight, but fought sublimely.
That HBO guy needs to be fired.
Anyway, great fight. Mosley doesn't really interest me though. It's all about Mayweather vs Paquiao now.
As soon as I saw the HBO logo and the interviewer in my head I was thinking "Why?". Should have had one of the Sky Brit boys on it. You know, journalists who actually show some respect for a fighter who not only just won the fight, but fought sublimely.
That HBO guy needs to be fired.
Anyway, great fight. Mosley doesn't really interest me though. It's all about Mayweather vs Paquiao now.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
yup - it's baffling. Boxing also has the extra danger that a good punch from anyone can pretty much take out any other boxer.
So some of the greatest boxers of all time are the careful tacticians. Mayweather dismantled this guy and remained focused for the duration and didn't do anything stupid, adding a convincing win against someone who -could- have potentially caused him some trouble.
BamYouHaveAids
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You can hear Larry get more and more senile every fight he commentates.
facepalm007
Member
Sort of true...Manny did go up to 147lbs against De La Hoya, and did so moving up from straight up lightweight. (Although I thought he did look slower in that match than previous matches.)BamYouHaveAids said:
I guess I would change it to 144lbs...not my personal sweet spot for this match, but it's definitely within both the fighters ranges.
Of course when it comes to this fight, the way they split the money would be the one thing that would stop this fight from happening.
EDIT ADDED @ Below: ::nods head:: That's what I thought as well...
i dont konw why this fight even happened...the mismatch was staggering...bigger stronger faster a better athlete and more technically proficient...did anyone really expect mayweather to loose?..id really like to see him fight mosley..but im pretty sure hes going to go back to his 'retirement' untill they announce the winner of pac/cotto
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Anyone who was expecting a brawl was on the wrong PPV channel :lol
It's PBF.
It's PBF.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
I was watching this fight in a movie theater. That shit was awesome. I can't go back to watching a big fight any other way.
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Ultimo hombre
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Norml said:
Verano said:
You guys should switch to backyard brawls on youtube. You'll be better satisfied.
Ultimo hombre
Banned
That was a technical masterpiece. Marquez is a smart fighter and has mixed it up with many but it was clear that he had no answer for Floyd at any level.
Looks like working with his Dad has really helped Floyd become functional with his jab. This in turn kept him more active than normal where he might be just inclined to sit on lead hooks and rights. It also went a long way to keep Marquez off balance as he was constantly getting tagged with sharp jabs to the head and body.
Floyd still had some timing issues due to ring rust but they got better as the fight went on. He was having trouble with his right hand leads and lean back counters but improved on them steadily throughout the fight. You could see he wasn't loading them up as much though in the later rounds as he was trying to work on getting his timing back. The left hook timing was still there.
The most impressive thing tonight was the jab though. We can a textbook display of how a jab can dominate a fight. Anytime Marquez tried to gain momentum, Floyd simply jabbed him until he got demoralized. I'm quite certain such jab usage wasn't expected by the Marquez camp.
At 32, Floyds handspeed, footspeed and body movement looked as sharp as ever.
Looks like working with his Dad has really helped Floyd become functional with his jab. This in turn kept him more active than normal where he might be just inclined to sit on lead hooks and rights. It also went a long way to keep Marquez off balance as he was constantly getting tagged with sharp jabs to the head and body.
Floyd still had some timing issues due to ring rust but they got better as the fight went on. He was having trouble with his right hand leads and lean back counters but improved on them steadily throughout the fight. You could see he wasn't loading them up as much though in the later rounds as he was trying to work on getting his timing back. The left hook timing was still there.
The most impressive thing tonight was the jab though. We can a textbook display of how a jab can dominate a fight. Anytime Marquez tried to gain momentum, Floyd simply jabbed him until he got demoralized. I'm quite certain such jab usage wasn't expected by the Marquez camp.
At 32, Floyds handspeed, footspeed and body movement looked as sharp as ever.
Mecha_Infantry
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Only just seen HHH walk out with PBF :lol
I love Pac-man from years ago, and quite simply think he can put the pain on PBF..but I think PBF is too quick and will effectively avoid Pacmans more powerful attacks
I love Pac-man from years ago, and quite simply think he can put the pain on PBF..but I think PBF is too quick and will effectively avoid Pacmans more powerful attacks
Jamesfrom818
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Even though I love Pacman, I'm fairly certain he'd lose against Mayweather. I think it would be a far more entertaining fight though.
J Tourettes
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nib95 said:
Are you being serious? Sky's boxing covereage isn't even the best in the UK. As for calling them 'journalists'? :lol
Re: last night's fight, why are people going overboard with the PBF praise? He won a fight that he was expected to win handily and he couldn't even be bothered to come in at the contracted weight. I hope this puts to bed any argument about PBF not being a 'legit' welter now, seeing as he couldn't make 144. A lot of fanboys can't trot out that excuse anymore when it comes to his abysmal record of fighting the genuine welters out there.
J Tourettes
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Zep said:
Steve Bunce is a legend. It's a shame Setnata went tits up over here as they had the best boxing coverage going.
talisayNon
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Yea count me off the Pacman bandwagon...Mayweather's gonna pound the shit out of him.
And Pac will beat Cotto. Cotto's a fatass - he'll be winded by the 4th round chasing that little Filipino midge et around the ring.
But Mayweather-Pac ain't even fair. Pac should stick to junior welter bouts.
Kellerman: He's definately a pro-Mayweather guy, I thought Mayweather took offense..but yea, I could see how Kellerman could have done better. In all honesty I think Kellerman probably wanted to get Floyd back for how he treated the Brian Kenny interview.
And Pac will beat Cotto. Cotto's a fatass - he'll be winded by the 4th round chasing that little Filipino midge et around the ring.
But Mayweather-Pac ain't even fair. Pac should stick to junior welter bouts.
Kellerman: He's definately a pro-Mayweather guy, I thought Mayweather took offense..but yea, I could see how Kellerman could have done better. In all honesty I think Kellerman probably wanted to get Floyd back for how he treated the Brian Kenny interview.
J Tourettes
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J Tourettes
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charsace said:
Really? There's no denying his skills but I wouldn't go so far as to label him one of the most dominant boxers of all-time. Boxing is a 'What have you done for me lately sport?' and unfortunately for Floyd he hasn't done anything of note for years. It'll be interesting to see where PBF goes from here if Cotto wins against (still not sure if he's damaged goods from the Marga fight myself but if he's not I fully expect him to take Pac out). That'll leave him with the choice of SSM, Cotto or Williams if he comes back down, can you see PBF making these fights?
DarienA said:
Floyd needs to be disrespected to get him in a real fight against a real Welterweight. It's funny how when the smaller guys call Floyd out, he hears them loud and clear (Hatton, Marquez) yet SSM disrespects him to his face and Floyd shat a brick.
I'm all for any action that'll get PBF into a legit welter bout.
Wow, that was one of the most incredible performances I've ever seen. Going into this fight I considered Marquez to be the number 2 technical fighter in the sport and Mayweather absolutely humiliated him. I never thought I'd see Marquez miss wildly like that.
Bring on Mosley, Cotto, and Pacquaio. I'd buy any of the PPVs.
Bring on Mosley, Cotto, and Pacquaio. I'd buy any of the PPVs.
J Tourettes said:
You call that back and forth between the two Floyd getting scared? No bias peeking through there right?
I'm sorry did any smaller guys come in and do a Kanye during Floyd's interview time in a match? Can't say I remember that.
I'm all for people calling people out, just not in the ring after a victory interrupting an interview. Call em out at a press conference, or my favorite call em out after the fight when the victor is pointing out people in the audience. I didn't like when I was sitting ringside in CT when Chad Dawson did it in the ring to Antonio Tarver and I don't like it now. That's not the way you do it.
J Tourettes
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DarienA said:
Well I think PBF looked uneasy/uncomfortable.
When all other avenues have been exhausted, you gotta do what you gotta do. It was blatantly stage managed by Goldenboy anyway, just wasn't sure if they let PBF in on it, unless HHH has been giving pretty boy some acting tips. It's not exactly like SSM did a Kanye anyway. He was a co-promoter of the fight so had a right to be in the ring and PBF beckoned him over to talk. Big difference IMO.
How else could SSM get PBF in the ring in your opinion? We all know Floyd isn't really up for challenges nowadays, being so paranoid about protecting that '0'. My problem with PBF is one of frustration ie I know how skillful he is and I genuinely think that he could've gone down as one of the ATG's, if only he'd fought the best competition at the higher weights. I have no qualms with his record at 126, 130 and 135 but since then he's hardly fought a murders row of opposition.
UltimaKilo
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datruth29 said:
Yeah it really was. But at least we have November 14th to mark on our calenders! Paq-Cotto is set to be a great fight!
SSGMUN10000
Connoisseur Of Tedium
What a masterpiece by Mayweather. The frustrating part about thought was that we all knew what a mismatch it would be. I dont know why he chooses to fight guys smaller than he is. I dont know if I would want him to fight Pac as he probably would pick him a part worse than he did Marquez. He would have a tougher time with Mosley or Cotto.
I thought mayweather would stomp Marquez... easy 10+ mil for him.
The next fight that needs to happen is Mayweather vs. winner of Cotto/Pacman.
That would be an epic fight either way. I'm pretty excited to see the heavyweight title fight this weekend. I don't think we have had one with this much potential in a long, long time.
The next fight that needs to happen is Mayweather vs. winner of Cotto/Pacman.
That would be an epic fight either way. I'm pretty excited to see the heavyweight title fight this weekend. I don't think we have had one with this much potential in a long, long time.
I think Mayweather/Pacquiao would be a good fight. My opinion is that Pacquiao has a lot more power and momentum in his punches than Mayweather. Mayweather is blindingly fast, but his hits never seem to do the kind of damage you would expect. Maybe it's a compliment to his opponents, but I haven't felt like he's really been able to destroy anyone. He's broken some spirits, but he hasn't really been able to dominate like you would want a great champion to do. That said, I still enjoy his fights and I understand why he fights like he does. It's very low risk. I mean, the sport isn't called knockout, it's boxing.SSGMUN10000 said:
If he didn't put a good performance against a totally gimped JMM then something would've been really wrong. Not taking anything from PBF he was impressive, but JMM was so gimped I just feel like the domination doesn't says anything to me.Tom_Cody said:
It was JMM first fight in over 135lbs, some boxers make smooth transitions but for others it takes time. He was fighting a PBF that was, probably in that fight, at least 10lbs bigger than him. PBF also had a larger reach with the arm, and was a bigger guy couple that with PBF's speed, and I just don't see how he wasn't going to dominate.
JMM looked slow and uncomfortable in that weight, he's punching power is clearly not welterweight level. It was a totally one sided fight.
:rollseyes
Cotto has fought some of the best fighters in the welter division. That cheating fucker Margarito, Shane Mosley, Joshua Clottey... And Pacman? Some british brawler that thinks he has boxing skills and a dehydrated Golden Boy. None of which were true welterweights.
People are in for a surprise in the Cotto/Pac fight, just saying...
J Tourettes
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Error said:
I'm putting some money on Cotto rounds 7 - 9 at 11/1. Having said that we still don't how much the Marga beating has affected him as he was cut in the Clottey fight so it's hard to judge from that performance. If Cotto hasn't been too badly affected I see no reason why he won't finish Pac within the distance.
Jamesfrom818
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My brother in law mentioned something that gives me some doubts about Manny's chances against Cotto. Against, Freddie Roach's wishes, he decided to train for the fight in the Philippines. Not too sure how much of a distraction that is going to be.
ragingadamo
Neo Member
Jamesfrom818 said:
I'm not sure, I would argue that being away from his family for so long would be a distraction as well.
Last night's fight was amazing, while I knew that PBF would win it was still great to see him back in the ring.
I can't wait for the Pacquiao Cotto fight. Pacquiao is always exciting to watch.
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