benita316 said:Uhh joke post? At the moment, Mayweather is ready to fight and Manny's the one backing out.
It's not like he's requesting anything outrageous or different to what most other athletes have to go through.
Why the fuck is Mayweather the one who has to compromise lest he be accused of being scared?
I repeat, he's good to go as is.
harSon said:Only a Mayweather hater could manage to turn this ordeal into a Mayweather issue, it's not Mayweather's fault that Manny refuses to take testing that many other prominent athletes are already doing.
And this method of drug testing was present within the contract they both agreed to:
"We agreed to $10 million per pound, or fraction thereof," Schaefer said. "That's what the Pacquiao side wanted and we said OK to that. That's unheard of. We have agreed on everything except for this drug testing issue. I have to think Pacquiao is unaware of this. The drug testing had been part of the contract for a while and then they suddenly said no. I was informed of that [Tuesday] morning. Suddenly they changed course and I don't know why."
If Mayweather would have pulled this shit, people would be foaming at the mouth with rage.
BakedPigeon said:I don't see what the big deal is about the fighters taking a drug test. Surely everything would be fine without the test but of one fighter would like it done then I don't see the problem. If your not a cheater and you do things legitimately then what is the hold up?
Teddman said:Yeah, WTF is Mayweather thinking? Don't try to introduce random drug testing into boxing, the sport has become boring enough nowadays as it is.
Btw, the fight is officially off.
BakedPigeon said:I don't see what the big deal is about the fighters taking a drug test. Surely everything would be fine without the test but of one fighter would like it done then I don't see the problem. If your not a cheater and you do things legitimately then what is the hold up?
benita316 said:Uhh joke post? At the moment, Mayweather is ready to fight and Manny's the one backing out.
It's not like he's requesting anything outrageous or different to what most other athletes have to go through.
Why the fuck is Mayweather the one who has to compromise lest he be accused of being scared?
I repeat, he's good to go as is.
BakedPigeon said:I'm not saying I agree with it. All I am saying is what is the big fucking deal? Surely it can't be as big of an inconvenience as your post suggests. Were not talking about something that takes a lot of work, its a fucking drug test. If neither boxer has anything to hide then it should not be an issue whatsoever.
I think you're being trolled by Mayweather's posturing.BakedPigeon said:All I know is if the fight falls through and both of these fighters throw away the insanely large purses they are going to walk away with, all because the pacman does not want to piss into a cup..... i am going to be fucking pissed.
Angry Grimace said:I think you're being trolled by Mayweather's posturing.
Money May says what Money May says, and he'll keep saying it until the fight ends.
Boxing itself is a joke in its current form. The talent drain has been extreme over the last decade. You institute Olympic-style random testing and EVERYONE who's anyone or on their way into the sport will abandon it for MMA, football, and other pro sports that are more lax. Very few pro sports test that rigorously.Ultimo hombre said:holy shit. there's someone arguing against drug testing? Boxing drug testing is a joke in it's current form. If a major fight like this prompts change to a better drug testing program, I'm all for it.
BakedPigeon said:All I know is if the fight falls through and both of these fighters throw away the insanely large purses they are going to walk away with, all because the pacman does not want to piss into a cup..... i am going to be fucking pissed.
jakncoke said:Isn't he pissed because mayweather wants random blooding testing?
Alex Anderson said:Floyd is such a pussy. It really is a shame given how gifted he is.
He knew making such a bs demand would be incredibly insulting and disrespectful; that there'd be next to no chance of Pacquiao agreeing to it. Floyd wants out of the fight and is trying to deflect blame. What an asshole.
Anyone blaming Pacquiao for not going along with this is bona fide retarded.
Ultimo hombre said:holy shit. there's someone arguing against drug testing? Boxing drug testing is a joke in it's current form. If a major fight like this prompts change to a better drug testing program, I'm all for it.
harSon said:You guys are unbelievable.
If Pacquiao is truly legit and the fighter he claims to be, he wouldn't let something as simple as random blood tests get in the way of solidifying his position as one of the best boxers of our era. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Mayweather wanting the fight to be 100% free of performance enhancing drugs, anyone who says otherwise is a bona fide retard.
I don't see how Pac's fans can condone such bullshit, his excuse is he doesn't react well to blood being taken out. That's pretty fucking ridiculous, if Mayweather said some shit like that 90% of you would be demanding that his boxing licence be suspended. The hypocrisy here is astounding.
harSon said:You guys are unbelievable.
If Pacquiao is truly legit and the fighter he claims to be, he wouldn't let something as simple as random blood tests get in the way of solidifying his position as one of the best boxers of our era. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Mayweather wanting the fight to be 100% free of performance enhancing drugs, anyone who says otherwise is a bona fide retard.
I don't see how Pac's fans can condone such bullshit, his excuse is he doesn't react well to blood being taken out. That's pretty fucking ridiculous, if Mayweather said some shit like that 90% of you would be demanding that his boxing licence be suspended. The hypocrisy here is astounding.
harSon said:Everyone says Mayweather is the one who is dodging Manny but the opposite has been true every step of the way. Freddy Roach and Manny have been bitching since the beginning, first the fight almost didn't happen because they were whining about the date of the match and now this?
J Tourettes said:It's hardly surprising you'd read it like that, you're the biggest PBF fan in here.
Personally I believe that the majority of top athletes are taking some kind of performance enhancers. My point is (for the third time as you keep ignoring the question) what gives Mayweather the right?
J Tourettes said:It's hardly surprising you'd read it like that, you're the biggest PBF fan in here.
Personally I believe that the majority of top athletes are taking some kind of performance enhancers. My point is (for the third time as you keep ignoring the question) what gives Mayweather the right?
harSon said:Because he's 40-0 and has a lot to lose.
If I'm in his shoes, I'd make damned sure that I was heading into a fight that was 100% legit as well.
BakedPigeon said:What do you mean what gives him the right? He is participating in the fight.... If any of the two boxers have request's I think they both have the right to make them, its their fight.
Cellbomber said:The issue is the blood test within 48 hours of the fight. The article I read had comments saying dr's wouldn't advise doing this during your training leading up to the fight. This isn't your Olympic style boxing these guys are training for.
I think it's going to reflect bad on Mayweather the most. Manny can and will take any fight.
Let Floyd go cherrypick his next fight. He felt forced to accept this and he found his way out.
Schaefer said Arum is merely "ranting and raving," and should talk to USADA chief Travis Tygart about how the blood-testing procedure would work. Schaefer said it was his understanding that Pacquiao would have to give "less than a tablespoon of blood" less than 48 hours before the fight under USADA guidelines.
"Pacquiao may be having this nightmare of this being a huge needle sucking all this blood from him, and that's not what this is about," Schaefer said.
[Updated at 12:30 p.m.: Tygart told the Times today that the USADA's "testing will not interfere with the competition. It's unreasonable to believe that it would." Tygart noted that the NFL and MLB don't test blood and said that Pacquiao's current stance to be tested only 30 days and beyond from the fight was "unacceptable to any effective anti-doping program."]
J Tourettes said:This kind of thing is above and beyond the normal requests (ring size, glove type, judges, referees). It's ridiculous.
Why not request olympic headgear as well?
BakedPigeon said:Instead of playing the why not game, why not just take the blood test and fight the fight?
Jamesfrom818 said:I don't think Mayweather has fairness on his mind especially after the shit he pulled with the Marquez fight.
Come in overweight? Whatever. Lets just throw some money around. That should make up for it.
harSon said:Mayweather agreed to give up $10 million for every pound he comes in overweight, an unheard of figure within the sport.
Mayweather seems willing to accept ridiculous demands, I don't see why Manny should be given a free pass.
J Tourettes said:That's because it's a welterweight fight and Mayweather has previous.
harSon said:And?
The figure is still ridiculous.
Also, have a look at the link I posted above. Manny would have to provide no more than tablespoon of blood a few days before the fight, the people in charge of the testing have also said that blood taken 30 days or more prior to the fight would be completely useless as far as anti doping measures are concerned.
Manny is just being unbelievably superstitious.
:lolJ Tourettes said:Why not request olympic headgear as well?
BakedPigeon said:All I know is if the fight falls through and both of these fighters throw away the insanely large purses they are going to walk away with, all because the pacman does not want to piss into a cup..... i am going to be fucking pissed.
Mecha_Infantry said:Floyd is a pussy, nothing more nothing less. I said on this forum the fight wouldn't be in March, because I knew something like this, or the purse woulda been a problem
Piss, blood, follicle, it doesn't matter. Pacquiao has pissed before and after the Cotto fight where people said he was on something, and he came back clean. This is nothing more than the whole Mayweather camp realising that Floyd WOULD have been beaten by Pacquiao
No on Pacquiao has fought has asked for this, not even the great DLH who had a lot to prove, THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE MUTTERING of this shit when he destroyed Hatton, but all of a sudden when he eats up Cotto and has Mayweather in his sights, "he's on something"
This is why I fucking hate Mayweather, pigeon headed fool
Did you read the thread at all?
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Mecha_Infantry said:Floyd is a pussy, nothing more nothing less. I said on this forum the fight wouldn't be in March, because I knew something like this, or the purse woulda been a problem
Piss, blood, follicle, it doesn't matter. Pacquiao has pissed before and after the Cotto fight where people said he was on something, and he came back clean. This is nothing more than the whole Mayweather camp realising that Floyd WOULD have been beaten by Pacquiao
No on Pacquiao has fought has asked for this, not even the great DLH who had a lot to prove, THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE MUTTERING of this shit when he destroyed Hatton, but all of a sudden when he eats up Cotto and has Mayweather in his sights, "he's on something"
This is why I fucking hate Mayweather, pigeon headed fool
Did you read the thread at all?
I think the issue is that there's really no reason for Pacquiao to be taking additional blood tests. Usually we would think about such a thing if there was a previous transgression or a rumor of sorts. I mean, I understand the frustration towards Pacquiao, and wanting him to just take the random blood tests so we can have a fight. But then I have to think if there's any reason what so ever for him to submit to a random blood test in the first place, and honestly I can't.harSon said:Keep it classy Floyd haters!
I have to think if there's any reason what so ever for him to submit to a random blood test in the first place, and honestly I can't.
harSon said:Keep it classy Floyd haters!
Hope it means something other than this:
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BakedPigeon said:Like I said a few post's ago, I caught it on espnews while I was falling asleep. blood test not piss test, big whoop its the same concept. You would have know this had you read the thread and saw my post.
harSon said:Isn't there a pretty big difference between a blood and urine test in terms of effectiveness? I'm not an expert, but doesn't urine test simply test for the drugs themselves while a contrast between two blood samples test for the levels of whatever performance enhancing drugs spike or lower?