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Knux-Future
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Hopkins got jobbed
gollumsluvslave
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Pretty much - I had the score 115-113 to Hops, but I didn't count the 1st knockdown for Pascal.
JP did nothing after round 5, it was all Hops. Has anyone other than Calzaghe beaten Hops in the championship rounds?
Knux-Future said:
Not really. IMO, Hopkins won 8 rounds and Pascal won 4. But because of the two early knockdowns, my final score is only 114-112 for Hopkins. It certainly possible to give one more round to Pascal, since one or two of them were close, and you get a 113-113 results.
It looked like he got robbed because he dominated the second half.
Hopkins got robbed imo, he won most of the rounds from the 5th on. Controlled the fight, hurt Pascal a few times with good solid body shots.
But with that being said I'm surprised he even got a draw cause I expected them to give him the loss.
But with that being said I'm surprised he even got a draw cause I expected them to give him the loss.
gollumsluvslave
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It wasn't a robbery - like Marco Huck earlier against Lebedev, that was an even worse decision that Mike Jones winning against Soto-Karass on the Pacqiauo - Maragrito undercard, which is pretty difficult IMO.
The Pascal Hops fight was pretty close, but I thought the strange fact that Hops was the aggressor for nearly the whole fight and Pascal was on his bike a bit would tilt it in Bernard's favour.
Very disappointed with Pascal tonight - he fought the whole fight 100% against Froch, but tonight he looked gunshy, and maybe a bit too respectful of Hopkins.
The Pascal Hops fight was pretty close, but I thought the strange fact that Hops was the aggressor for nearly the whole fight and Pascal was on his bike a bit would tilt it in Bernard's favour.
Very disappointed with Pascal tonight - he fought the whole fight 100% against Froch, but tonight he looked gunshy, and maybe a bit too respectful of Hopkins.
gollumsluvslave said:
Respectful? I'd say he looked out of gas at times.
This isn't a new issue, watching Pascal's fights he often seems to have endurance problems in the middle/end of fights and thats something that Hopkins rarely has that type of problem.
Hopskins body shots were hurting Pascal and he basically shut it down in the of the fight.
In the last qtr he picked it up but Hopkins was still landing more shots.
It is what it is though.... with that being said I seriously doubt Pascal will give Hopkins a rematch. If his team is smart... they won't.... even with that I think Hopkins gave a good blueprint on how someone like Bute could beat Pascal.
gollumsluvslave
Member
Well kind of like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He just seemed to hand the initiative to B-Hop and never turned it around.
Strange
Ninja Scooter
Member
Hypocrit much?
Ninja Scooter
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dream said:
lol so how many more over the hill zombies is Pac gonna be allowed to fight before he gets called out as a "ducker" like so many of his fans like to do to Floyd? Mosley looked like toast when Floyd fought him and now a year (and a draw against a mediocre Sergio Mora) later Pac is trying to pass this off as a legit opponent? Lets just all admit that both of these guys are hand picking scrub opponents and just want to coast the rest of their careers.
dream
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Ninja Scooter said:
The ridiculous thing is how the media, as expected, is trying to push this as a competitive fight...only they have to stretch soooooooooooo far to do it. Like this article I just read...
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/hopkins-vs-pascal-proves-pacquiao-vs-mosley-no-mismatch
I'm just going to avoid pac mosley like a bad dream. Who gives a fuck about pac or pbf when there's some good shit going down in boxing right now? Alexander-Bradley is on the horizon in January, as well as Donaire-Montiel! Gamboa is going to unify with Rojas or Hasegawa very soon, Martinez-Dzinziruk is on the horizon, and Brandon loudmouth Rios is about to take on Acosta in his first title bout.
J Tourettes
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Despite Alexander looking like shit against Kotelnik, I'm still picking him over Bradley. Should be a good fight.
J Tourettes
Banned
I heard that the tickets were selling like shite for Bradley Alexander, if so that's a fucking shame. I'm sure it'll give Amir an excuse. Who are they? How many tickets do they sell? etc etc. I hope he doesn't but Amir's camp have a reputation for lowballing fighters and taking the path of least resistance, the exception being the Maidana fight that they were basically forced in to taking.
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dream said:
I don't know if I am the only one watching this PPV, but it literally the worst thing I have ever seen in about 25 years of being a boxing fan. Holy crap.
The fights are horrid and then there is god awful musical acts between each fight....
dream
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x Power Pad Death Stomp x said:
I just read Dan Rafael's twitter (he's been liveblogging the PPV) and he sounds like he wants to die after watching this shit.
I just tuned in for the Holyfield fight though...not sure if I really want to watch this but I'll give the man credit - he's in amazing shape physically.
edit: lol@them playing Get The Party Started in between rounds
No doubt in my mind Holyfield quit but I'm glad he did. That third round was hard to watch.
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dream said:
Holyfield is my favorite fighter of all time. I never ever want him to fight again.
The fight ending in a no contest pretty much sums up this shitty card.
J Tourettes
Banned
Potential game changing news from Dan Hauser at MaxBoxing
Much more on the site, well worth a read and I hope it's a success as it'll shake up the circle jerk that is HBO-Haymon-GBP.
Much more on the site, well worth a read and I hope it's a success as it'll shake up the circle jerk that is HBO-Haymon-GBP.
J Tourettes
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EschatonDX said:
Indeed. The more exposure on terrestrial (Network I think it's called in the US), the better for boxing.
Won't be able to stay up for Bradley-Alexander this weekend but will be recording it. I'm sticking some money on Alexander as he's a 2/1 underdog and I fancy his chances. I think people are putting too much stock in the shitty showing against Kotelnik.
In other news, Paul McCloskey's (who? Irish European champ, not exactly well known and certainly not in Khan's league at this point in his career) camp have rejected the offer to fight Khan. I'm extremely glad that they have as Khan should be fighting a better level of opposition than that, even if it is only a 'stay busy' fight.
I have no idea why they don't take Prescott up on his offer. Everybody seems to think that Khan would handle him easily (he probably would) but then it's not like any of the other proposed opponents will give him that much of a hard time plus Khan gets to avenge a brutal KO defeat. The fight would sell itself over here, guaranteed sell out at the MEN arena and the PPV's would probably be Khan's highest to date.
J Tourettes
Banned
I'm sticking twenty quid on Alexander to win in rounds 6-12 at 11/1. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed in my sleep tonight.
J Tourettes
Banned
Fuck it's gone down to 13/2 
, might not bother now.
, might not bother now.Totally anticlimactic fight, even without the Technical decision due to headbutt. Bradley never seemed to get in a rhythm, and Alexander didn't look like his usual sharp self either. Way too much holding and grabbing (mostly initiated by Alexander), but regardless it was just a complete dud. I know Alexander said he wants to exercise that rematch clause but I really hope they just move on to Khan/Maidana/anybody else rather than run this one back. Huge potential this fight had, too bad it ended up a huge disappointment.
J Tourettes
Banned
I had the fight scored quire closely but despite that it was obvious that Alexander wanted to be anywhere but in that ring. He completely bitched out and I hope the rematch doesn't go ahead.
J Tourettes
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Reminds me of a sports game cover, like it though.
J Tourettes
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Have you read the bullshit about the WBC stripping Martinez? OOps, I mean making him 'champion emeritus'. Fucking disgraceful, all in order to gibe JCCjr a chance to get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b0JlJ5jkP4
Glorious, thought I'd share. A tribute to the heavies made by a good friend.
Glorious, thought I'd share. A tribute to the heavies made by a good friend.
J Tourettes
Banned
Great fight for the British lightweight title that took place last Saturday: Crolla vs Watson
For those that missed it, here is the Round 2 of Donaire vs Montiel and one of the most vicious counters I have ever seen.
soujiro_seta
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OMG @ that counter punch by Donaire! Mabuhay ka Donaire!