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Sorry, but african religios receive SO MUCH prejudice that is not even funny
I really don't. But it's nice to be delusional once in a while.
It may be just me, but just reading something like that makes me a little more hopeful, even if what the guy's saying is far from being the absolute truth.
This is a sad truth.
I mean, I'm glad that he thinks so highly of our country, but it's pretty misguided and I'd say almost naive at how highly he talks of it. Makes me sad we don't live up to some of his words.
To make things a bit better after a depressing truth bomb.
cutmeamango
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I almost agree with De Masi's statement of "being the best possible".
It sure is one of the best (possible) that I know about.
And I'm quite sure (given the small excerpts of text) he is speaking about population relations. He is aware of widespread: corruption, inequality, misery, violence/criminality.
But our society as a whole is satisfied with little (compared to potential).
Approval ratings of the government/presidents in the poorest states exceed 70% for the past 10 years. We stop for carnival. We stop for football.
Corruption cases blow out, we wait for the next one.
Media laughs, it all looks caricaturesque.
All while our economy grows, our market and international force grows, other south american governments look for our aid in having them participating internationally with strength/protection.
And yes, you can make the case of "happiness" of our population, although that will always be met with subjective reading.
Here we would have discussions on how the media stunts our intellects, keeping us dumb but happy, without ever knowing what true happiness is and what not. But this discussion is sad.
(By the way, I don't think our society as it is is sustainable. It is just enjoying its century of stride.)
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That Dove Men Care commercial is pretty funny.
It sure is one of the best (possible) that I know about.
And I'm quite sure (given the small excerpts of text) he is speaking about population relations. He is aware of widespread: corruption, inequality, misery, violence/criminality.
But our society as a whole is satisfied with little (compared to potential).
Approval ratings of the government/presidents in the poorest states exceed 70% for the past 10 years. We stop for carnival. We stop for football.
Corruption cases blow out, we wait for the next one.
Media laughs, it all looks caricaturesque.
All while our economy grows, our market and international force grows, other south american governments look for our aid in having them participating internationally with strength/protection.
And yes, you can make the case of "happiness" of our population, although that will always be met with subjective reading.
Here we would have discussions on how the media stunts our intellects, keeping us dumb but happy, without ever knowing what true happiness is and what not. But this discussion is sad.
(By the way, I don't think our society as it is is sustainable. It is just enjoying its century of stride.)
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That Dove Men Care commercial is pretty funny.
ColossalLazy
Member
This is brilliant.
http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/marco-feliciano-diz-que-direitos-das-mulheres-atingem-familia-7889259
I'm gonna go cry in a corner.
I'm gonna go cry in a corner.
I hate to double post and I HATE to post portuguese stuff here ... but ...
Feliciano/Malafaia fanfic
Wut.
I hate to double post and I HATE to post portuguese stuff here ... but ...
Feliciano/Malafaia fanfic
Terrific.
Hi Brasil GAF, may you win the Confed Cup !
I have a favour to ask from you: I fell in love with this song and I just wanted to know more about it. Would you be kind enough, por favor ?
...and viva Brasil !
Know more about it as in what? You want to know who sings it?
Ahem, I wanted a translation of the lyrics. The song sounds so nice. I know who sang it and I also got impressed by some of his other works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGmdkBbo0x8
I did not know there were religions that emerged in Brazil, and that thay had such interesting backgrounds, I read through the article without stopping. Thanks Platy.Platy said:Holy Flood of Candomblé references
WeaponKnight
Member
Half of that isn't in portuguese. I have no idea what it means, I'd need a candomblé dictionary of sorts. Here are the portuguese parts badly translated by me:
You can probably find a better translation somewhere, but that should give you an idea. Perhaps someone familiar with the candomblé vocabulary could help?
Wow, now this sounds complex :0
I wikied some proper nouns in the lyrics and I am astonished by how rich and interesting the Yoruba religion is. First time I read extensively about a religion originating in Africa and I am all over it. Great great stuff.
Now I find it nice that the religion got relays in the artistic world to express itself in such beautiful ways. Toquinho and Vinicius have done a great job with this song. Thanks WK.
What's that African religions?
I like this song ! And the best thing: I don't need a translation to understand the lyrics
He refers to Yoruba and other afro-american religions practiced in Brazil. I have read a bit about Yoruba and the three variants followed in Brazil and they seem to have answers about most spiritual questions about fatality, the meaning of life, life after death and other topics. From this point of view, they are a religion like others. Probably that subjective aspects play against them as stated in this article:
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/lifestyle/2013/06/06/africa-rooted-religions-have-strong-hold-in-brazil/
The rest of the article is really interesting also.
Submarino Conversível
Member
São Paulo gaffers, any toughts about the protests against the public transport prices rising?
I still don't know wheter I am in favor or against the destruction of stuff, but is kinda infuriating the way the media is portraying the protesters, like if everyone there just enjoy vandalism and is using it as a reason.
http://noticias.uol.com.br/ultimas-...m-lixeira-durante-protesto-na-av-paulista.htm
I still don't know wheter I am in favor or against the destruction of stuff, but is kinda infuriating the way the media is portraying the protesters, like if everyone there just enjoy vandalism and is using it as a reason.
http://noticias.uol.com.br/ultimas-...m-lixeira-durante-protesto-na-av-paulista.htm
That is quite interesting. I thought Brazilians were all devoutly Christian. I also thought they were not very interested in their African ancestry despite having the largest black population outside of Africa. But it really is a diverse society.I like this song ! And the best thing: I don't need a translation to understand the lyrics
He refers to Yoruba and other afro-american religions practiced in Brazil. I have read a bit about Yoruba and the three variants followed in Brazil and they seem to have answers about most spiritual questions about fatality, the meaning of life, life after death and other topics. From this point of view, they are a religion like others. Probably that subjective aspects play against them as stated in this article:
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/lifestyle/2013/06/06/africa-rooted-religions-have-strong-hold-in-brazil/
The rest of the article is really interesting also.
Hi Brasil GAF, may you win the Confed Cup !
I have a favour to ask from you: I fell in love with this song and I just wanted to know more about it. Would you be kind enough, por favor ?
...and viva Brasil !
I think i am the only brazilian who is cheering against Brazil in the cup, lol.
No, you're not.
...but you should like Brazil, they have Dante in their team. How can a team with a guy called "Dante" be not likeable ?
...but you should like Brazil, they have Dante in their team. How can a team with a guy called "Dante" be not likeable ?
Brazil's current team is nothing compared to the one that won the cup in 2002. Neymar is a joke, and a lot of the other team members have been slipping in terms of being effective players. It was only after how many games that Brazil finally won against a moderately good team? (France). Everything else it would just tie with teams like Bolivia and others. It was awful. 2002 Brazil wrecked everybody's shit.
Not every team can feature Pelé, Garrincha and Jairzinho on the pitch. I am confident Scolari will make his job and reach the semis at least.
Brazil is organizing the World Cup. Even I as a Switzerland national, I am inclined to cheer Brazil up. The country has gone through many transformations to become a economical gorilla and a triumph at the WC would be let people know how advanced the country actually became in the last decades just like 2008 let the world know about China's strong push up the power ladder.
And let's face it, Dante is hot <3
I suppose, the problem is that it's not at all likely that the current team would be able to beat the world powerhouses like Germany or Netherlands. There's still a year left, and I guess they'll be able to truly test themselves in the Confederations Cup. I just hope they don't lose to Japan right in the beginning.
WeaponKnight
Member
I'll be surprised if they can get things done in time with all that stealing and mismanagement.
In any case, I'm not a salaried employee anymore so I don't get the day off when Brazil plays, so I couldn't care less if we won.
I am excited for the Confed Cup. Do we have an OT for it ?
I am speaking only about the sportive performance. But that's interesting. The stealings have been proven, or is there at least a investigation ? Also, regarding your second statement, is there some kind of special treatment for all employees across Brazil or only those of contractors/CBF ? The former would be awesome/dramatic. Also, you don't seem so supportive :-( pardon my narrow vision and little understanding of the Brazilians but aren't you described in your large majority as fervant supporters of your country's sports teams (football, handball, volleyball, etc.) ?
WeaponKnight
Member
Money flies and things don't get done. It's going somewhere, right? That's pretty common here, so it's not surprising at all.
It depends on how much of a fanatic the boss is. Last company I worked had some hardcore fans in management so we got the day off. Same thing happens in schools with nice principals.
I despise soccer, but I'm an exception. Sometimes I'm called traitor, non-brazilian or gay for that
Now, if you catch me watching volleyball or anything in the olympics, then I'm a supporter
There are some problems to justify the animosity towards our national team and the world cup.
First - when Brazil was choosed to host the Confederations Cup and the World Cup, the government said that the money needed to build the stadiums would come from private companies, and that the government would invest in infrastructure to improve mobility in our major cities. Years later, there's nothing new in therms of infrastructure, and the stadiums are beeing built using public money, and not only that. Stadiums that should cost something like 500 million dollars are consuming more than a billion each.
About the national team, CBF is the company that controls everything soccer/football related here. It's a well known corrupt organization that people don't sympathize at all, and they spent years insisting with Mano Menezes as the national team's coach. The guy is a joke and shouldn't ever be there in first place. After a few years of booing in our stadiums they finally decided to put Scolari back there. But Scolari doesn't have the ideals of the modern football. His team fell to the second division last year, and after sinking his team (Palmeiras, one of the biggest teams around here), he came to the national team. It doesn't make much sense, right?
First - when Brazil was choosed to host the Confederations Cup and the World Cup, the government said that the money needed to build the stadiums would come from private companies, and that the government would invest in infrastructure to improve mobility in our major cities. Years later, there's nothing new in therms of infrastructure, and the stadiums are beeing built using public money, and not only that. Stadiums that should cost something like 500 million dollars are consuming more than a billion each.
About the national team, CBF is the company that controls everything soccer/football related here. It's a well known corrupt organization that people don't sympathize at all, and they spent years insisting with Mano Menezes as the national team's coach. The guy is a joke and shouldn't ever be there in first place. After a few years of booing in our stadiums they finally decided to put Scolari back there. But Scolari doesn't have the ideals of the modern football. His team fell to the second division last year, and after sinking his team (Palmeiras, one of the biggest teams around here), he came to the national team. It doesn't make much sense, right?
Wish we had the same in here during the games that occur during the summer. It's depressing to stay in the office while it's 30°C outside, especially since these sunny days can be counted on one amputee's fingers every year.
So the logical conclusion is to assume that some at the government, the contractors and the CBF have pocketed a fair amount of money while the stadiums and the workers received the short end of the stick ? That would explain also the strikes that plagued the organization. Loathul. You thought these guys would have some kind of national consciousness that would have somehow guided the money to where it belongs.
No, masons are well rewarded here, actually. The problem is that we brazilians have an inner feeling that we are being screwed all the time. We pay so much taxes, everything here is expansive as hell, and yet these expensive products usualy suck, you know? For example: cars. We usually pay the double for the same model that is sold in the USA or Europe. Yeah, the taxes are high, but the profit margins are the double too, and yet our cars suck in crash tests. The same models that are four or five stars in Europe or in the USA, are one or two here. It's nuts.
The New York Times once said that brazilians pay nordic taxes and receive african services in exchange.
Yeah, we have free health care, the workers rights are good, but every public service here suck, the corruption levels are way high and there's no hope of changing. That is why (as I've said) we have a feeling that we're being screwed all the time. We enjoy rooting for our national team, of course, but if the national team wins, the corrupts that control everithing will win too, you know?
That is why there are some people here rooting against the brazilian national team.
PS: I'll root for the national team, sure, but I have a feeling that it may be better if we lose.
PS2: I'd rather have Dante on the main team instead of that David Luiz jerk. I hate that guy! '>.<
The New York Times once said that brazilians pay nordic taxes and receive african services in exchange.
Yeah, we have free health care, the workers rights are good, but every public service here suck, the corruption levels are way high and there's no hope of changing. That is why (as I've said) we have a feeling that we're being screwed all the time. We enjoy rooting for our national team, of course, but if the national team wins, the corrupts that control everithing will win too, you know?
That is why there are some people here rooting against the brazilian national team.
PS: I'll root for the national team, sure, but I have a feeling that it may be better if we lose.
PS2: I'd rather have Dante on the main team instead of that David Luiz jerk. I hate that guy! '>.<
I'll just leave this here: http://www.melhorquebacon.com/24-momentos-protesto-sao-paulo/
You seem right:
24 355,6426 U.S. dollars is the price in Brazil for for the lowest Golf model (which is a shit model)
22 909,7325 U.S. dollars is the price in Germany for the lowest Golf VII model
da fuck.
It's like those kids who admit they 'd rather fail than succeed because their success would also be the one of parents they hate.
David Luiz is probably the best Brazilian player. I don't see him leave, we'll just ask Scolari to play with three fullbacks.
No way! He is indeed a good player, but he's violent as hell, and I hate violent athletes. =P
And playing with three fullbacks is like an offense to the brazilians supporters, haha.
LOL That was dumb and funny at the same time.
My friend posted this, I couldn't stop laughing. The person who did this is amazing.
IC_Champion
Member
So, the STF court is full. What do you make of this new minister?
lmao. Gotta love the Aussies.
Was channel surfing last night and came across a skateboarding competition where the guy had a t-shirt that said "No PEC-37" so I stopped for a second, cuz I was like "Hey, I know sorta what he's talkin' about."
So this guy, Pedro Barros, was the only Brazilian and only not American to place in whatever the competition was. I thought that was pretty cool. Reminded me of how I played as Bob Burnquist all the time in THPS.
So this guy, Pedro Barros, was the only Brazilian and only not American to place in whatever the competition was. I thought that was pretty cool. Reminded me of how I played as Bob Burnquist all the time in THPS.
I saw a lot of shit regarding politics and laws and senate stuff and even public hospitals since I was born here
But NOTHING ever comes close to this :
Medicine council made a law allowing transgender people to start hormone therapy at 16 years and to have surgery at 18 years (before it was 18 years and 21 years respectivaly)
and then ... a FEW HOURS later they went "LOL Just kidding"
http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil...8dfbdff9ba630410VgnVCM5000009ccceb0aRCRD.html
It looks SO MUCH that some of those religious dudes saw the news and was like WTF WHAT ? and then went berserk and the advanced law was RUINED
But NOTHING ever comes close to this :
Medicine council made a law allowing transgender people to start hormone therapy at 16 years and to have surgery at 18 years (before it was 18 years and 21 years respectivaly)
and then ... a FEW HOURS later they went "LOL Just kidding"
http://noticias.terra.com.br/brasil...8dfbdff9ba630410VgnVCM5000009ccceb0aRCRD.html
It looks SO MUCH that some of those religious dudes saw the news and was like WTF WHAT ? and then went berserk and the advanced law was RUINED
Ordem e Progresso! Yeah!
sqn.@Riki: I can't really help with this as I'm not in Sao Paulo. I think Brazil (as in the member) is there so maybe PM him a question about it? There are some other gaffers here from around that area but yeah.