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One last Terminator moment.Calcaneus said:I literally screamed out "WHAT?" when Gus walked out of the room, they got me good.
One last Terminator moment.Calcaneus said:I literally screamed out "WHAT?" when Gus walked out of the room, they got me good.
SalsaShark said:I think Margolis was also brilliant, surprised more people arent talking about that. The way he finally looked at Gus at the last moment and how his expression changed from sorrow to the fucking meanest look in history.
Like drunk driving you POS?Amir0x said:?
didn't know rolllin' on Ecstasy was in the same morally corrupt level of poisoning innocent children and putting poor old ladies in harm way to protect my ass (protip: taking drugs is not immoral at all, in fact)
I always take responsibility for my actions. I expect no one to go down for what I do but myself.
Or why he went to the old folks home despite the odds of it being a trap was even higher?bigjimmystyle said:Is there any explanation for how Gus managed to guess that his car was rigged with a bomb?
bigjimmystyle said:Is there any explanation for how Gus managed to guess that his car was rigged with a bomb?
Foliorum Viridum said:Or why he went to the old folks home despite the odds of it being a trap was even higher?
But those who call Gus a vicious monster will get an animated argument from Esposito.
I find myself defending him, which I have to investigate because Im fascinated by it, he declared with a boisterous laugh. I believe nothing is black and white.
Gilligan echoed the sentiment: I dont think Gus is a good man, but hes not an entirely bad man. Hes infinitely pragmatic. When he does something awful, its not with any pleasure or joy. Hes out to accomplish a goal and make a point.
When I first read it, I was absolutely shaken, Esposito said. I didnt want to scar my spirit. He had to find a way into the scene, and realized that Gus has a family to take care of. This is how a man provides if you have to do something, do it with no remorse and no looking back.
If you feel sympathy for Gus and understand who he is, then Ive done my job.
It only serves as a juxtaposition on how wary he was about Walt being onto him and how his emotions towards his partner's killer still get in the way of that. He got careless cause he's filled with revenge. That's the one new thing that was introduced about him this season with that flashback. He's indeed a human after all, and he made a mistake.
He had the place checked out by Tyrus so he felt confident that it was safe.Foliorum Viridum said:Or why he went to the old folks home despite the odds of it being a trap was even higher?
It's just one of those things you need to suspend disbelief for. Sometimes he has those spidey senses, other times not.
SalsaShark said:I think Margolis was also brilliant, surprised more people arent talking about that. The way he finally looked at Gus at the last moment and how his expression changed from sorrow to the fucking meanest look in history.
Heh, that'll be fun in threads as reaction gifs.Americanmushroom said:why no gifs with oldguy spelling 'suck my...' etc?
But then why didn't he send him to check under his car?Juancho9 said:He had the place checked out by Tyrus so he felt confident that it was safe.
Foliorum Viridum said:But then why didn't he send him to check under his car?
Just not completely consistent. I don't care, you can only expect so much of a TV show, but things like that stand out when you think about it.
Jakeh111 said:How was Walt responsible for Janes death?
Foliorum Viridum said:Or why he went to the old folks home despite the odds of it being a trap was even higher?
It's just one of those things you need to suspend disbelief for. Sometimes he has those spidey senses, other times not.
bigjimmystyle said:Is there any explanation for how Gus managed to guess that his car was rigged with a bomb?
Why does it need an explanation? Jesse told Gus that someone poisoned Brock, and then he flinched when Gus went in close to comfort him. It was a little convenient that Jesse demanded that Gus come to the hospital to make him cook, and Gus was smart enough to see that. He knew something was up. He didn't know what, but he knew it was something.bigjimmystyle said:Is there any explanation for how Gus managed to guess that his car was rigged with a bomb?
Did he really have reason to be that paranoid? He knew he had to watch himself around Tio because of the DEA visit. If it is an inconstancy it predates this storyline and should probably be traced back to his dealings with the cartel.Foliorum Viridum said:But then why didn't he send him to check under his car?
Just not completely consistent. I don't care, you can only expect so much of a TV show, but things like that stand out when you think about it.
FantasticMrFoxdie said:"Gimme my Emmy!"
Dude did you see my post from yesterday?SalsaShark said:I think Margolis was also brilliant, surprised more people arent talking about that. The way he finally looked at Gus at the last moment and how his expression changed from sorrow to the fucking meanest look in history.
bangladesh said:One major and imo very overlooked thing I wanna point out about this episode is the performance given by Mark Margolis. (Hector/Tio) The expressions of Hector's final moment before he blows himself up was incredible and infinitely moving. His character wasn't exactly someone to root for but even with that considered, you still feel him recalling personal customs and memories from the past. Showing another part of him that is as pure as anyone else's before he swallows it all down and claims his vengeance.
bangladesh said:Dude did you see my post from yesterday?
inky said:Huh? She was choking on her own vomit, he could've saved her. I get the question, he wasn't directly responsible for the way she died, but he could have stopped it.
Edit: at this point I'm just repeating over and over what people have already said, right? Sorry, I'm just skimming through the thread.
Next year presumably.BlueMagic said:So when is BB coming back?
ourumov said:A brilliant guy, calmed, educated, always trying to do the right thing. The only thing he gets is a crappy job, a marriage that is about to break, a kid that pays more respect to the idiot of his brother in law, debts and more debts and fucking cancer.
BlueMagic said:So when is BB coming back?
Next summer probably.BlueMagic said:So when is BB coming back?
He's also a man of honor. Walt's been a small coward of a man since episode 1, playacting a tough guy at his best.maharg said:Oh, and to throw fuel on the fire:
Vic Mackey is a better person than Walter White.
It's not. It's an insult on the same level as asshole, dick, cunt,...BenjaminBirdie said:Wait who did I say deserved to die? And he called her a bitch, by the way. Suddenly that's not misogynistic?
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE SHIELDshadyspace said:He's also a man of honor. Walt's been a small coward of a man since episode 1, playacting a tough guy at his best.
scar tissue said:It's not. It's an insult on the same level as asshole, dick, cunt,...
Also, you can call a guy a bitch as well.
I actually view Walt as something much more sinister, merely using the perception of being a coward to his benefit.shadyspace said:He's also a man of honor. Walt's been a small coward of a man since episode 1, playacting a tough guy at his best.
A female actor is called an actress. A female waiter is called a waitress. A female asshole is a bitch.scar tissue said:It's not. It's an insult on the same level as asshole, dick, cunt,...
Also, you can call a guy a bitch as well.
Jadedx said:Watching season 3 now, Hank really is an evil, evil person.
Akia said:If small time guys like Walt and Jesse can find a great dirty lawyer like Saul.
Can you guys imagine the type of criminal lawyer that Gus has at his disposal?
We're talking Maurice "Maury" Levy + Saul Goodman x 1000 here. Who knows what crazy orders Gus left in his will.
shadyspace said:He's also a man of honor. Walt's been a small coward of a man since episode 1, playacting a tough guy at his best.
..wat
dude has unconditional love all around and he neglects it. His kid loves him and he barely pays attention to him. His wife has such strong feelings towards him that she's now willing to put up with all of this shit to pull through for the sake of the family, and he stepped up and help him out BIG time.
only bad luck thing of the ones you mentioned is cancer. Many people get that, doesnt justify any of his actions. Crappy job and debts are more shit that happens/his own fault because of his decisions in life, wich are irrelevant to the show as they're just part of the setup. None of this takes away from the fact that he has a family.
I get the sympathy thing and im willing to let some of the other stuff discussed to be up for interpretation, but Walt being a victim and his family being the ones in the wrong towards him? what?