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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC
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After two long years of watching the show I finally got my wife interested. I bought the first season on Blu Ray a couple days ago and we've already got Seasons 2 & 3 on the way from Amazon. She can't stop watching. I can't wait until Season 4. I love Bryan Cranston and I can only wish that he gets another Emmy after this Season.
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if you didn't like "The Fly" i'm not really sure why you're watching the show.
.. it's actually kind of unsettling.
.. it's actually kind of unsettling.
ConradCervantes
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All the posters who dislike "Fly" are merely Costanza's alts.
blame space
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it makes sense now
Yes but he does myriad of things that aren't necessary at all to keep that feeling, and others that are just plain stupid w\o a shred of common sense. Gilligan went on record stating what he does to Walter and why. It's just a shame that in doing so all the other things are sacrificed. When the show isn't stuck on its Walter angle it can be quite good.Amir0x said:
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Even though the writers have a downward trajectory planned, it's not like they sacrifice all of semblance of story to accomplish that. Everything Walt does makes perfect sense in regard to who he is. He's a prideful quick tempered person - which is why he'll do something like tell Jesse to kill people who ripped them off and then feel bad and apologize to him about it the next day.Saty said:
BenjaminBirdie
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BertramCooper said:
That's funny, I was totally going to post Fly >>> The Suitcase
BenjaminBirdie
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Has this been posted yet?
NYT Article. Vaguely spoilery in terms of describing S4 scenes they were on set for.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/m...d=auto&smid=tw-nytimesmagazine&pagewanted=all
NYT Article. Vaguely spoilery in terms of describing S4 scenes they were on set for.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/m...d=auto&smid=tw-nytimesmagazine&pagewanted=all
tycoonheart
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Saty said:
I don't know if that is what Vince is attempting to achieve. If viewers were able to adore Tony Soprano, who committed way more heinous shit than Walter White has even thought of, there is no way in hell us viewers will really turn on him. The fact is, we saw Walter White as a the underdog for a while. We know he's an extremely smart chemist who is working at a high school. He worked two jobs to support his family. He had cancer. He was fucked over by his own friends that won the Nobel prize for something he was directly involved with. He's got a son with cerebral palsy. Knowing all this, at one point you were rooting for the guy to do well by any means necessary. And this feeling still, IMO, resonates in viewers' minds. In short, it will take a LOT for the viewers to turn on Walter White.
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BenjaminBirdie said:
Really nice article, thanks for the link. Only two minor spoilers, possibly only one in fact (
is it even noteworthy that there were Latino extras in the background of the scene outside the Schrader home?
Cornballer
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Very cool. Thanks for posting - hadn't seen it yet.BenjaminBirdie said:
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tycoonheart said:
Like watching an innocent woman choke on her own vomit?
Or making a kid shoot a guy who drives around with the lamest bike in New Mexico on the roof of his car in the face?
BenjaminBirdie
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blahblah...blah said:
I thought the Walt and Jesse stuff, pictures especially, was spoilery.
Don't tase me, bitch?
tycoonheart
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BenjaminBirdie said:
Was a bad influence on Jesse, and Walter realized this. Her ODing was her own fault.
Survival. Whats his other option? To get himself and Jesse killed?
Walter is not a cold-blooded murderer.
BenjaminBirdie
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tycoonheart said:
He's not sympathetic either.
Jesse begged him, literally, to go to the cops.
Fuck Walter White.
tycoonheart
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BenjaminBirdie said:
He is sympathetic, at least to me, in the sense that I want to see him succeed with whatever it is that he is doing.
dave is ok
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I actually believed he was giving up Jesse in the S3 finale when he told Mike he'd call him. That's why this show is awesome
BenjaminBirdie
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dave is ok said:
Same here.
Also, Mike. Mike is why this show is awesome.
tycoonheart
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dave is ok said:
Walter acting like he was scared to only call Jesse and tell him to kill Gale was absolutely incredible. He goes from scared shitless to "you fucked with the wrong guy" mode in matter of seconds. Awesome stuff.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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My science is ready.
I just saw 2 billboards for S4 while I was driving. Took a picture and will upload later
I just saw 2 billboards for S4 while I was driving. Took a picture and will upload later
dead souls
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BenjaminBirdie said:
That's my opinion as well. The hate for The Fly is completely baffling to me. It was brilliant.
I came in late to Breaking Bad and thought The Fly was one of its most enjoyable episodes. I was looking forward to that episode specifically because I wanted to see what Rian Johnson would do with a Breaking Bad ep, and I had heard beforehand it was very polarizing, but I thought Cranston and Paul were hilarious throughout.
Cornballer
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Here's the scene from Full MeasureBenjaminBirdie said:
I was trying to track down the Walt - Jesse phone conversation from the same episode, but I couldn't find it on youtube. The majority of it is here on AMC's video site. Hit the 3:15 mark.
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Cornballer said:
To be honest, that's not the Mike I love. I love the talking Mike. Shooting's easy. It's cool shooting, sure, but god damn. Mike? Just talking?
That's Mike, man. That's the best dude in the room.
Cornballer
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The stuff with his grand daughter and the scene with him helping Jesse deal with Jane's body were good, too.BenjaminBirdie said:
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Cornballer said:
I just always go back to "Get that car fixed."
Classic Mike.
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'She's gonna need her shoe!'BenjaminBirdie said:
'You know Walter, sometimes it doesn't hurt to have someone looking out for you'
His voice and delivery are so perfect
sixteen-bit
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"First of all, each one of these cost $800. Second of all, you're not very interesting. So yes, I will get all of them"
I love Mike.
I love Mike.
crazygambit
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Saty said:
First he didn't send Jesse to murder them, he just wanted him to scare them. Afterwards he regretted it and tried to tell Jesse to call it off.
He let his girlfriend die to save Jesse. He knew a couple of addicts with unlimited money would be dead within the month. Jesse admited as much on the "Fly" episode. Plus it was a split second decision, it wasn't premeditated and it still affected him plenty. I think it was the right decision too, I probably would have done the same in his shoes.
I think his worst decisions have been related to saving Jesse, who really brings very little to the partnership. But he obviously cares for the kid and sees him as family, maybe the son he never had, so again it's understandable.
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crazygambit said:
He does have an actual son. I actually don't ever think he thinks of WJR as less of a son. I don't think he's that repugnant.
tycoonheart
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Cornballer said:
And the consequence of Mike telling Walt "no more half measures"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RB8t0CCZB4
Love both the scenes.
crazygambit
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BenjaminBirdie said:
Ok, agreed. He clearly loves his son too. However he doesn't see him as someone who can follow his footsteps. You can see that when he no longer cares about him driving using both feet. He's given up on that dream.
He sees Jesse as someone who can continue his legacy. He's clearly proud of him, you can see that when he tells him Jesse's meth is as good as his. Also he loves him as a son, so in that respect, Jesse is like the son he never had IMO.
The cinematography in this show is sooo good. High budget Movie-calibre.
One of my favourite episodes - the "fullminated mercury" one - has the best opening shots in the show. The light seeping through the bullet holes in the door is wonderfully shot.
Godly scene. I had chills.
One of my favourite episodes - the "fullminated mercury" one - has the best opening shots in the show. The light seeping through the bullet holes in the door is wonderfully shot.
tycoonheart said:
Godly scene. I had chills.
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Interesting.satriales said:
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tycoonheart said:
"Funny how things can be interpreted in so many different ways."
GOD DAMN, MIKE RULES.
BenjaminBirdie
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crazygambit said:
I never realized that aspect of it. Very astutely observed! Man, FUCK Walter White!!
lol
Yeah at this point there is no arguing that Walter White is in anyway a sympathetic character. Any sympathy and semblance of humanity he may claim is mainly due to the way Cranston plays the role - but we all know his cancer just triggered a downward spiral which he himself fell deeper into. He could've stopped ages ago, but has crossed many lines and there is no turning back.
What makes this show so brilliant is how Cranston manipulates us through his acting that he still cares about his family, while his actions clearly depict otherwise. He no longer cares about them but rather the inflated sense of self-esteem he gets knowing how his product is the best in the market. In this way he can realise his dream of being a recognised figure in his field of science.
What makes this show so brilliant is how Cranston manipulates us through his acting that he still cares about his family, while his actions clearly depict otherwise. He no longer cares about them but rather the inflated sense of self-esteem he gets knowing how his product is the best in the market. In this way he can realise his dream of being a recognised figure in his field of science.
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As someone wiser than me pointed out, Walt's self righteousness makes him the biggest asshole in the show.dmshaposv said:
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It's also worth noting that he returned to try to talk some sense into/save Jesse after giving him & Jane the share of the money, after having a discussion at a bar with Jane's father.BenjaminBirdie said:
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eh, I think it's flat out wrong to say he doesn't care about his family any more. You're interpreting the show one way but me and others will interpret it another way. I think he obviously still cares about them very much, but he is also "finding himself", if that's the right wording, and the guy seems as confused as he seems ruthless at times. I don't think there is any possible conclusion that extreme that can be drawn yet.dmshaposv said:
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Doubly impressive for making crappy New Mexico seem like one of the most wonderful places to live on Earth. Such beautiful scenery.dmshaposv said:
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