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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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overcast

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FUCKKKKK. Such a great episode.

-Like many others have already said, great to see Hank.
-Jesse had a fantastic episode. That speech near the end was just so amazing.
-This episode balanced all the characters damn near perfectly.
-Walt is starting to get a bit more control, but it will obviously come crumbling down eventually.

Seriously worried for Jesse's and Mike's lives. IMO one of those two will die this season.
 
DEAD RABBIT said:
I would like to remind everyone of this observation from the BB season 3 thread, after the episode where Hank got shot.

Wasn't around for the discussion of the One Minute episode, but the idea of the
Hank's boss
being on the other end of the call never really crossed my mind

Will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next set of episodes
 

xbhaskarx

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brianjones said:
over/under hank being dead by seasons end

No way, not happening. Mike and/or Gomez maybe. I think there is a good chance Gus dies at the end of this season.

This season: Walt using Hank to defeat Gus (who uses Jesse against Walt).
Next season: Walt takes over, Walt vs Jesse, Walt vs Hank.

Bookmark that shit.
 

xbhaskarx

Member
DEAD RABBIT said:
I would like to remind everyone of this observation from the BB season 3 thread, after the episode where Hank got shot.

The voice on the phone sounds a million times more like Hank's boss than Mike or any of the other options, you just may be on to something...

-Pyromaniac- said:
Is it wrong that I'm rooting for Walt, Jesse, Mike, AND Hank.

That's okay, I'm rooting for Badger, Saul, Skinny Pete, and Flynn.
 
Terrific episode. Jesse's group speech was great, and it's always nice to see Gus put in a predicament. Cannot wait to see how this Cartel match-up goes. Seeing the Fring empire clash with an equally professional group will lead to rather entertaining things.
 
This show just keeps amazing me. I would even dare to say that I haven't seen a show that just keeps bringing out high quality episodes consistently.
 
I think people who are saying the Cartel wants Walt is correct, and that Gus is indeed protecting him from them. Walt will end up killing the guy who is protecting him. And next season could be about the Cartel coming for Walt. I don't think Jesse is going to survive past this season.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
I doubt Breaking Bad will go the cliched route of having the DEA boss in business with Gus.

This is all a distinct possibility though:

ybQXN.png
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
tycoonheart said:
I think people who are saying the Cartel wants Walt is correct, and that Gus is indeed protecting him from them. Walt will end up killing the guy who is protecting him. And next season could be about the Cartel coming for Walt. I don't think Jesse is going to survive past this season.
I have a feeling Jeese will live. Next season will be Walt vs Jesse.
 

bud

Member
hank goin' all columbo on us.

dave is ok said:
I doubt Breaking Bad will go the cliched route of having the DEA boss in business with Gus.

This is all a distinct possibility though:

http://i.imgur.com/ybQXN.png[img][/QUOTE]

this is cutest thing i've read all day.
 

Orlandu84

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Another amazing episode!

I loved the scene
in which Jesse and Walt talked while Jesse painted.
I thought that the analogy
of Jesse covering over his drug addiction with violence was really well done in this scene.
 
markot said:
:eek:

Wow.

And I dont think that gus is protecting walt, the old timer wanted him dead, and the 2 twins were trying to do it just for him.

I dont think the cartel cares much, they just want the market back, and gus took that from them.

But things have changed since then.

Gus was going to rely on Gale. Gale's dead, baby. Gus has no one to go to for cooking meth other than Walt. So if the cartel is after Walt, Gus has no choice but to protect Walt from them.
 

Stet

Banned
RaidenZR said:
So I don't get it though. What does the fine print in the Los Pollos commercial indicate? It's just an unknown company running the chain?
It's the company that made the industrial air purifier Hank was talking about.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
RaidenZR said:
That picture is incredible!
It actually makes me rethink the whole 'DEA boss is working for Gus' theory because of the way Hanks' walker points at both of them with the whole 'DON'T METH WITH US' being turned into 'METH WITH US'
 

RaidenZR

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Stet said:
It's the company that made the industrial air purifier Hank was talking about.

So Gus bought the purifier from himself? Sorry, maybe I just have Monday-morning cobwebs going on...

Also it seems weird that the company that owns Los Pollos also owns a manufacturing plant for air purifiers.
 

Vlad

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dave is ok said:
It actually makes me rethink the whole 'DEA boss is working for Gus' theory because of the way Hanks' walker points at both of them with the whole 'DON'T METH WITH US' being turned into 'METH WITH US'

DEA connections or not, the whole thing with Madrigal Electromotive was an interesting look into the behind-the-scenes stuff of the Pollos empire. I had always assumed that Gus was pretty much the head honcho of the whole thing: he owned the restaurants, he ran the meth business, and that was that. Now, with the reveal that, at least on paper, Los Pollos Hermanos is actually owned by a much, much larger company, it calls into question Gus' actual place in everything.

RaidenZR said:
So Gus bought the purifier from himself? Sorry, maybe I just have Monday-morning cobwebs going on...

Also it seems weird that the company that owns Los Pollos also owns a manufacturing plant for air purifiers.

That's just it.. we have no idea what the power structure of Madrigal Electromotive is. Gus could be running the whole thing, or he could just be running the Pollos/Meth arm of it, with the larger operations being run by a person (or people) we have yet to see.

I don't know if it's that weird that a company would own multiple businesses in different industries, though. It seems like the kind of thing companies would do if the business to be bought up seems like a good investment.
 

decaf

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Stet said:
It's the company that made the industrial air purifier Hank was talking about.
...which they didn't pay for, implying that the insane amount of money they're making from blue is being funnelled through the parent company. If Walt is making dozens of times too much money for a car wash imagine how much money Gus is looking at. Too much to clean through Pollos Diablos Hermanos.
 

xandaca

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markot said:
:eek:

Wow.

And I dont think that gus is protecting walt, the old timer wanted him dead, and the 2 twins were trying to do it just for him.

I dont think the cartel cares much, they just want the market back, and gus took that from them.

Great spot in that trailer.

If Gus is 'protecting' Walt from the cartel - and as you say, I'd be pretty surprised if that were the question - it's clearly only for his own ends. Once he has found a meth cook who can do a passable imitation of Walt's work, it's goodbye Mr. White as far as Gus is concerned. Fantastic episode again though, should silence everyone who complains that nothing has been happening in the main storyline. Hank is so damn cool.

Here's my full review and analysis
. Thanks to everyone who reads!
 
Yeah, people shouldn't forget that Walt was taken from his home to the laundromat where he was about to be murdered because he was no longer needed by Gus. Gus doesn't give a shit about Walter, he just cares about his business.
 
RaidenZR said:
So Gus bought the purifier from himself? Sorry, maybe I just have Monday-morning cobwebs going on...

Also it seems weird that the company that owns Los Pollos also owns a manufacturing plant for air purifiers.


Highly-Diversified.
 

harSon

Banned
I have a feeling one of the two cops in the room with Hank (don't remember their names off the top of my head) are dirty. Drug dealers don't get as prolific as Gus without having some much needed inside work.
 
CiSTM said:
Was it Dead Space Wii ? If so it has been also released for PS3. Good episode also I think Skylar is going to solve the money issues going in
"bed" with Ted. She already knows Ted is in troubles with the books so she is going to make proposition he can't refuse.

I speculated about this on the page just before last night's episode began and I definitely think it's happening now.
 

Woo-Fu

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-Pyromaniac- said:
I see Mike becoming Walt's left hand man while Jesse is his right hand man when they take down Gus.

"you work for me now" book it.

Mike would never work for Walt, working for dipshits like Walt is not how you live to Mike's age doing the work Mike does.
 

bud

Member
harSon said:
I have a feeling one of the two cops in the room with Hank (don't remember their names off the top of my head) are dirty.

i really, really hope that isn't the case. that'd be so cliched.

the dea boss' reaction is suspect, though, seen in that light: ''i really think you're reaching...''

don't do this to me, gilligan.
 
Woo-Fu said:
Mike would never work for Walt, working for dipshits like Walt is not how you live to Mike's age doing the work Mike does.
unless walt/jesse saves his life somehow. And although Walt has gone a bit crazy this season I don't think that's indicative of him now and forever being a "dipshit". In the past he has shown that he is a smart/decisive/strategic person.
 
harSon said:
I have a feeling one of the two cops in the room with Hank (don't remember their names off the top of my head) are dirty. Drug dealers don't get as prolific as Gus without having some much needed inside work.

Hank's boss has long been the victim of speculation on the internet, for the following reasons:

1. Gave Hank a promotion, shipping him off to Mexico, when he was at the peak of his Heisenberg investigation and doesn't even speak Spanish (fairly convincing)

2. People thought he might be the one on the other end of the phone in One Minute (unconvincing)

3. Clearly knows and gets on well with Gus, has worked with him for some time (fairly convincing)

I don't think there's anything overwhelmingly in favour of him being a mole - the first reason is a little suspicious, but the second and third are dubious. It pains me to say it, but the person who looked most uncomfortable during that final scene was Gomez. If anyone's downloaded it, watch how they keep him in frame during the bit where Hank pretends to admit defeat, and then whips out the fingerprint evidence: Gomez' expression is interesting, to say the least.

I'm not totally convinced either way, and feel that it would be pretty lazy writing to have a DEA mole, but we shall see. Also, I made reference to the German corporation in the Los Pollos commercial last year on either AVClub or Hitfix, can't remember which; so great to see it come up again.
 

harSon

Banned
bud said:
i really, really hope that isn't the case. that'd be so cliched.

the dea boss' reaction is suspect, though, seen in that light: ''i really think you're reaching...''

don't do this to me, gilligan.

It's cliche'd because it's necessary for realism. It's simply impossible in this day and age to create a long standing drug empire without having law enforcement under payroll.
 

Stet

Banned
Woo-Fu said:
Mike would never work for Walt, working for dipshits like Walt is not how you live to Mike's age doing the work Mike does.
This show jerks me around so much. When people insult Walt, I instinctively want to defend him, but then I realize that it's all so true and he doesn't deserve to be defended at all. This despite the fact that I insult him myself sometimes.
 

Woo-Fu

Banned
Thoraxes said:
And he always starts those sentences with "Do you expect me to believe..." "Do you really think..." "Why do you think..."

It's really consistent too! For some reason it all feels so natural though, because in his situation, yeah, he'd probably be asking a lot of those questions.

Don't forget, Walt was a teacher, employing the Socratic method should come easy. :)
 

Woo-Fu

Banned
dave is ok said:
Yet Gus is the one who almost got Mike's head blown off recently

Mike was there as insurance, just in case. Once they knew something was up they pulled him out and put the red shirts in.

Mike has to take those types of risks, he just doesn't have to take them blindly, or because his boss isn't the one wearing the pants at home.
 

SpeedingUptoStop

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Mike's healing factor is no match for Hank's. Hank's gone from bed nearly walking in the time Mike's been wearing that tape on his ear. Maybe he does it to be cool now, like Nelly.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Mike's healing factor is no match for Hank's. Hank's gone from bed nearly walking in the time Mike's been wearing that tape on his ear. Maybe he does it to be cool now, like Nelly.
It's been like 14 episodes spanning months since Hank got shot. On most shows, he'd be hurt for one episode if that.

I really think they moved him from the walker to the cane in one episode just so he could point at the picture and have the cane pointing at Gus and the DEA boss at the same time.
 

smokeymicpot

Beat EviLore at pool.
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Mike's healing factor is no match for Hank's. Hank's gone from bed nearly walking in the time Mike's been wearing that tape on his ear. Maybe he does it to be cool now, like Nelly.
This shows time line is a little strange. Isn't it still 2009 or something around those lines.
 

D4Danger

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The RAGE product placement was borderline offensive. It literally felt like I was watching an advert and the show hadn't started.

the rest of the episode was good. Hank's scene at the end when he's piecing the case together is probably my favourite thing all season.
 
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