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Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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SpeedingUptoStop

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if Walt Jr. does not figure prominently in the 5th/6th season as a major player, I may just lose all confidence in this show and stop watching.
 
I think Walt will kill Hank before the end of the show. Kind of a reverse Fredo (I know this is a stretch). Walt will do a Gus and not have a henchman do it either.

It would probably be Walt's absolute low point on how terrible of a person he can be.
 

Speevy

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Final episode of the season, the chief as Cromwell and Hank as Spacey.

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Zeliard

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PhoenixDark said:
Great episode, with another great Hank ending. I can't help but think he's going to die soon though.

They can easily make things very tense with him due to his condition. You thought the Hank/twins scene was tense? Wait till Hank really gets deep into the shit and finds himself at a huge physical disadvantage when some sort of confrontation inevitably comes up.
 

markot

Banned
They do have a father son relationship, but its one of those father son relationships that ends in one of them dying imo >.<

Its hard to say Walt has been a positive influence on Jesse's life, all it takes is a reveal of what he did, or failed to do, when his girlfriend was choking and Jesse could easily snap. Not to mention that since he became involved with Walt he has had to dissolve 2 people in acid, had one of his best friends killed due to walts 'miscalculation' and made to shoot an innocent man.
 

Valravn

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Hank: like a boss.

I think at the end everything will turn out fine for Jesse but everything will be going down the drain for Walt. Reversed roles.
 

Zeliard

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markot said:
They do have a father son relationship, but its one of those father son relationships that ends in one of them dying imo >.<

Its hard to say Walt has been a positive influence on Jesse's life, all it takes is a reveal of what he did, or failed to do, when his girlfriend was choking and Jesse could easily snap. Not to mention that since he became involved with Walt he has had to dissolve 2 people in acid, had one of his best friends killed due to walts 'miscalculation' and made to shoot an innocent man.

And Walt now wants him to kill someone else. Walt is clearly deeply immoral but I wouldn't think even he could stoop so low as to murder Jesse or Hank. I think that crosses the line even for Walt. Though his self-preservation and pride are so enormous that it's still a remote possibility.
 

Puddles

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Zeliard said:
And Walt now wants him to kill someone else. Walt is clearly deeply immoral but I wouldn't think even he could stoop so low as to murder Jesse or Hank. I think that crosses the line even for Walt. Though his self-preservation and pride are so enormous that it's still a remote possibility.

That someone else is Gus, a mass murderer and bona-fide kingpin who already tried to have them both murdered. It would be a huge leap from killing Gus to killing either Jesse or Hank.
 

Imm0rt4l

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mickcenary said:
After that last episode, I kinda just really want Hank to nail Walt/everything. The fucker deserves it.
I think he'll feel conflicted, having his brother in law pay for his treatment with drug money.
 

Zeliard

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Thing is that Hank is heading directly towards Gus, not necessarily Walt. He believes Gus is Heisenberg and is tied directly to Gale, the latter of which is 100% true, and even the Heisenberg thing isn't all that far off given that Gus is the blue meth kingpin. So Hank is already damn close.

I think we're going to see a scenario play out where Hank gets closer and closer to uncovering Gus, to the point where Walt actually finds out in some fashion that Hank is investigating Gus, and will find himself in this dire situation where he'll be forced to take quick action to save Hank without alerting either Gus or Mike. And that could be how Hank ultimately finds out that Walt is involved.
 

Zeliard

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Puddles said:
That someone else is Gus, a mass murderer and bona-fide kingpin who already tried to have them both murdered.

And you think it's fair to lay the responsibility and enormous risk for the murder of a person like that on Jesse?
 

JaskoX1

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SpeedingUptoStop said:
if Walt Jr. does not figure prominently in the 5th/6th season as a major player, I may just lose all confidence in this show and stop watching.
Can't tell if you're being serious or not.

But I too also wish there was another major female player.
 

Acrylamid

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Thoraxes said:
And he always starts those sentences with "Do you expect me to believe..." "Do you really think..." "Why do you think..."

It's really consistent too! For some reason it all feels so natural though, because in his situation, yeah, he'd probably be asking a lot of those questions.
I agree, it really feels natural. Because many people in such a situation would try to think it through in any possible way and Walt is definitely someone like that.
That's also one of LOST's many flaws, there are 15+ main character survivors on the island and no one asks anything.
 
LM4sure said:
Maybe I missed it in a previous episode, but what does the drug cartel want from Gus?

They haven't told the audience yet. But I'm assuming it's either a cut of Gus' profits or Heisenberg for their own use.

edit: most likely the former, no way Gus can keep doing this shit without paying a higher power.
 
Just watched it.

I just about lost it when Gus asked Walt Jr. to work for him -- best part of the episode.

Also, Hank is reaching boss status like crazy.

And I'm not fluent in Spanish but even I can tell Gus' Spanish skills are horrendous.

Someone needs to check on Puddles. Dude is crazy.
 
Discotheque said:
They haven't told the audience yet. But I'm assuming it's either a cut of Gus' profits or Heisenberg for their own use.

edit: most likely the former, no way Gus can keep doing this shit without paying a higher power.

Ha, man. Just had the funniest flash. If/when Walt takes over, him listening to Spanish Language tapes for his cartel meetings.

LO fuckin L.
 
By the way, how the heck do some of you pay attention to the "product placement" stuff? I just saw a kid excitedly talking to his uncle about some car. I didn't even know it was a Dodge and have no idea what the numbers he spouted off were. What I was looking at is Hank's face to see how he records this memory so I can tell how suspicious he might become of Walt in the future, if further evidence starts to point to him.

And I didn't even know that Rage was a real game: I just saw Jesse practicing his shooting (ok, I did notice the plastic gun recoiling somehow...) and having flashbacks to Gale. Who cares what game it is? Stop paying attention to shit that doesn't matter.
 

markot

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Not to mention, what could they do in the car case? Make up some brand? Sometimes its more real to have brands there than it is to ignore them.

And how many people would have realised RAGE was a plug? 95% of the people watching dont know and dont care, we only know cause we are gamers >.<
 

Zeliard

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Discotheque said:
They haven't told the audience yet. But I'm assuming it's either a cut of Gus' profits or Heisenberg for their own use.

edit: most likely the former, no way Gus can keep doing this shit without paying a higher power.

Yeah I think it's just that they want a piece of the action, either way. Gus has become too big - due to Walt's blue meth - and the cartel clearly views this as a problem.

Could very well be that they want Heisenberg himself, since Gus did offer substantial cash to them to fuck off, so it may not specifically be money-related. But it could also simply be that they want money in continuous installments as Gus continues to operate, instead one-and-done as Gus wanted it.
 
markot said:
It may have been mentioned in the show, but I forgot I guess, but what does Walt Jr actually have?
cerebral palsy
xbhaskarx said:
Are you on blue meth? There is 0.00% chance Jesse dies before the season 5 finale, if at all (I don't think he will die).
Hrm? Jesse is a tragic figure. Keeping him alive would be torture for him at this point. He really should die.

Walt, on the other hand, would be getting off too easily with death. He deserves to live in misery for a long time. What a scumbag.
 

Vlad

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Zeliard said:
Yeah I think it's just that they want a piece of the action, either way. Gus has become too big - due to Walt's blue meth - and the cartel clearly views this as a problem.

Well, that and they're pissed that Gus basically took over a huge chunk of territory from them when he killed Tuco's cousins and Juan Bolsa.
 

markot

Banned
Ty

And yeah, Gus did conspire to have a higher up in the cartel taken down by the federales, the idea that he could buy them out was kinda crazy on his part.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
In the series finale Walt Jr. will try his dad's meth at some point and it will cure his Cerebral Palsy. Then Skylar will look at him and say "It was a good thing you started making meth after all!" and then they'll both laugh together and she'll say "I never really fucked Ted". Then the series will end.
 

Leucrota

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They better be going somewhere with this stupid fucking car wash, because I am getting sick of it and it seems so useless. Walt makes $7 Million+ a year, and now Skylar is JUST finding out she is not going to be able to launder the money? How the fuck did Saul think they were going to launder the money under guise of a rinky dink nail salon? None of this makes sense. The only awesome thing I can see coming of this is moving the meth lab into the car wash, which seems like it might happen now that Hank is sniffing around Gus' operations.
 

RaidenZR

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Foliorum Viridum said:
I don't think they have the balls to kill off Jesse or any other main character yet, which is a shame.

Do you consider Gus a main character? I'm not sure I want to predict that he's going to die, but I do feel like his antagonist role is going to end at some point this season.
 
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