GrizzleBoy
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Theyre parroting Donald Trump.
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British PM Theresa May Brexit Speech 17th January 2017 at 11:45AM GMT
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Theyre parroting Donald Trump.
they are citing unemployment figures like those aren't indicative to a larger problem coming our way and that we have to learn how to cope with a large number of unemployed people.
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It honestly feels as though they think the EU is a collection of eastern europeans and brown people who secretly had the government in a stranglehold.
They think leaving the single market means they don't have to bow down to these foreigners any longer.
They must honestly believe this is how they get back their country and be a british empire again. It's the only explanation.
If you were a company wouldn't you want stability so isn't it likely a lot of companies will go to the EU.
May is still flapping which I think gives companies a little hope but I wouldn't be surprised if companies have planned their exit when the article 50 and EU not caving reality hits. Right now, it's still the same, will it won't it, sunshine and roses deal UK could get in dreamland that is holding things together.
May is still flapping which I think gives companies a little hope but I wouldn't be surprised if companies have planned their exit when the article 50 and EU not caving reality hits. Right now, it's still the same, will it won't it, sunshine and roses deal UK could get in dreamland that is holding things together.
Honestly, sometimes I wish they were. Probably nothing good would come of it, but I would like some equally blunt answer to those parties that are menacing the Union.
The last time I saw something alike the UE putting their balls on the table was for a banking stuff.
For real though, they'd probably call it making the UK even more competitive by supporting job-creation™ and ensuring a 'global UK' that welcomes international business.
GrizzleBoy
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If there's one thing we want, it's to offer tiny to non existent tax rates to large companies, leaving the citizens to foot the bill for all the missing tax from the budget.
Billy_Pilgrim
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Whilst stating all the people on benefits are draining the system dry.
Genuinely, I think if people were asked to vote on whether or not to jump off a cliff, they'd call vote yes.
Huw_Dawson
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If that line of reasoning can be used to justify Brexit, then yes there is plenty of support.
This is not about the economy, remember, it is about immigration/race. Same as the US surge in right-wing populism.
Cheering to see poll data that clearly shows that a larger percentage of the British people want us to remain close to the EU, certainly in the single market, than those that want us to leave altogether.
hydrophilic attack
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so leaving the inner market
goodbye british banking industry
uk is going to have a bad twenty years or so ahead
goodbye british banking industry
uk is going to have a bad twenty years or so ahead
PJV3
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Yeah, that's a worry.
The Tories have destroyed all the things we used to have pre EEC membership that balanced power somewhat.
Unions are weak, labour doesn't care about winning power, and there's not much going on in the world of left leaning media.
We are buggered.
Cos that Polish section in their local Sainsbury's treads all over the memories of our fallen or something.
Now that certain things appeared to have been ruled in and ruled out, it's going to be interesting to see how the financials react. They've been quietly building contingency plans in case the UK loses passporting rights. Will they hang around to see if May can get them outside of the single market, or start jumping now? I've my doubts she will be able to get that access.
No, negotiations begin when we trigger Article 50. Which is some deluded hope I have I still think they'll never trigger.
jufonuk
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This all seems like it was designed so that those in power could screw us over, and when we are our shit they can just tell us all straight faced ... well this is what you wanted.
Business will stay other money making ventures to.
The uk government just used the EU as a the big bad and a lot of us fell for it.
I mean I may be cynical but who knows eh? 😜😜
Business will stay other money making ventures to.
The uk government just used the EU as a the big bad and a lot of us fell for it.
I mean I may be cynical but who knows eh? 😜😜
Can't have too many hard working White Christians coming here.
Always worth remembering that the difference between Leave and Remain wasn't pro/anti-migration but rather between those who wanted to reduce migration but didn't want to pay for it (Remain) and those who wanted to reduce migration and thought it wouldn't cost anything (Leave). If "becoming a tax haven" means worse public services etc then I doubt it would be popular but the issue is who would be blamed for such an eventuality. Seems possible the public would blame the EU for their being worse off rather than the government.
"Those in power" overwhelmingly wanted to stay in the EU...
Extra Sauce
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Royal_Phalanx
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EU parliament elections are more democratic than UK ones. At least the party which most people didn't vote for doesn't get a majority.
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The EU won't issue its response until later, but German ministers are already saying as much as the official PR will probably do: it's fine that the UK wants to retain close ties to the Union and we are glad for it, but negotiations won't happen until the UK invoques Article 50.
I expect lots of hot air for the next few months. The ball is still on May's roof.
I expect lots of hot air for the next few months. The ball is still on May's roof.
HazySaiyan
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No idea but I'm convinced at this point that the right-wing press can convince the British public on absolutely anything.
Yep! the best part is Britain NEEDS immigrants, but now May is pushing us to be "global". So when black Kenyans start taking these jobs instead of white Poles I'm super curious to see the reaction from the xenophobic element of the Brexit voters.
GrizzleBoy
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That Polish section gives me cherry fucking Jaffa Cakes. I'd rather we kept them than the millions of racist Brexshit stains.
Air Zombie Meat
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Fuck the london elites! Lets fuck them up....by giving them tax breaks and reducing public funding. Country reclaimed!
Well, where was most of the racist/xenophobic remarks thrown at before the Poles and Eastern Europeans? Towards the Indian, Pakistani and other Southern Asian immigrants back in the 70s and 80s. Point is, xenophobia and racism doesn't pick and choose. You'll see the same reactions regardless of where these "bloody foreigners" come from.
Huw_Dawson
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Basically:
1. It's easy to make foreigners the boogeymen. There's nobody to stick up for them. So conservative politicians have been pushing this angle since Thatcher joined the SM.
2. High levels of immigration affected quite a lot of areas. Upwards-moving foreign people (largely not from Europe, to begin with) saw opportunities in Britain and made their homes here, opening shops, starting companies and building places of worship. Lots of people didn't think they had the right to do that, because they'd struggled to make things work. Rather than blame their bad government, they blamed the large body of people that didn't have professional spin doctors employed - the faceless immigrant masses. This fed into anti-immigrant sentiment that has been brooding in England and Wales for forty plus years. The fact that we then accepted a bunch of polite Eastern European people who opened shops and started families here only angered anti-migrant people further, despite all these EU migrants being, as a whole, a quiet and hard working Catholic bunch!
The backlash against the EU is down to populist politicians making foreigners the boogeymen. It's been going on for decades and the fruit is now being reaped.
It has nothing to do with the economy or the reality of laws being made in London or Brussels. This is the core of why the left and centre have lost momentum in recent years. There needs to be a push to beat the anti-immigration rhetoric of the hard and far right. We need to go back on the charm offensive and give people reason to be proud of the immigrants that have made our country their home.
vonStirlitz
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I swear the script for modern Britain is being written by Alan Moore.
jufonuk
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Oh that would be the best fuck you ever to those xenophobes ahahahah....oh this will be good.
God no. People are already pissed that corporations dodge tax like crazy. It's a fucking stupid idea.
Zero. Labour are the least credible they have been in decades and couldn't put up a united front against anything even if they wanted to, and the Tories are all busy pretending every single one of them was campaigning for Brexit
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The brexit campaign has already been talking about commmonwealth and other countries immigrants replacing eu ones.
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Does this mean eventual Scottish independence sooner rather than later? As someone not living in the UK, how would the rest of Britain react to that?
They allready stated they would not stop Brexit
The government would then let the two years run out and we would be kicked out.
Hey, hey, the Tories didn't destroy Labour, Labour destroyed itself.
Will probably depend on intense consideration of their horoscope that day, a shake of the old 8-ball, and the alignment of Jupiter. Also whichever choice will allow them to stay in power just a little bit longer.
I'd place my bets on it not happening.
PJV3
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It reminds of the scene where the sheriff holds himself at gunpoint in Blazing saddles.
What the fuck are we doing this for.
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