SirMossyBloke
Member
Showtime was AWFUL and nothing like Crash. There was no setup or the ability to bounce off traffic, or explode or anything like Crash allowed you to do.
Burnout Paradise 2 for next gen? [Criterion asks what you want in it]
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Showtime was AWFUL and nothing like Crash. There was no setup or the ability to bounce off traffic, or explode or anything like Crash allowed you to do.
No, I agree. It was disappointing. But I'm not sure how crash mode can be implemented in an open world game. You can't have 'tracks'. It has to be open world.
Showtime is a good start. They need to build on it. Re-introduce crashbreakers for a start.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Adding in Crash mode shouldn't even be on the list and should be standard and the first thing they work on.
Black Door
Banned
Losing your race because you took a wrong turn af the final corner, then having to waste five minutes driving back to the traffic signal and do it all over again, and if you want to switch cars you have to drive ten minutes to find a junkyard is so immersive
But this season of The Office is one of the best!
Here's what i said the last time: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24676863&postcount=36
The perfect Burnout game will have:
1) Open world for exploartion and Road Rage.
2) Closed,meticulously designed circuits for all the other race modes. (Which in themselves can have alternate routes).
3) Crash Mode
4) Signature Takedowns (painfully missing from Paradise precisely because of the open world nature).
5) Quick Race mode like in Takedown where you can choose game mode,locations, # of laps and # of cars. (Painfully missing from after Takedown).
6) No traffic checking of cars from the incoming lane.
After they made sure they got this, Criterion can experiment with new\unique events that can apply in the open-world mode.
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And any racing game that has a full world map hub MUST let the player create custom races by going across the map and drawing the line of the race; choose #laps and #cars. Infinite circuits.
Here's what i said the last time: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24676863&postcount=36
The perfect Burnout game will have:
1) Open world for exploartion and Road Rage.
2) Closed,meticulously designed circuits for all the other race modes. (Which in themselves can have alternate routes).
3) Crash Mode
4) Signature Takedowns (painfully missing from Paradise precisely because of the open world nature).
5) Quick Race mode like in Takedown where you can choose game mode,locations, # of laps and # of cars. (Painfully missing from after Takedown).
6) No traffic checking of cars from the incoming lane.
After they made sure they got this, Criterion can experiment with new\unique events that can apply in the open-world mode.
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And any racing game that has a full world map hub MUST let the player create custom races by going across the map and drawing the line of the race; choose #laps and #cars. Infinite circuits.
They fixed that eventually and it was still open world.
legacyzero
Banned
No. No it's not.
Pretty sure he means the original version of The Office.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yes, yes, and yes. And this time, please don't leave PC in the dust by not releasing all the DLC on said platform. The island is still a sting to the PC crowd. Loved it on PS3 and re-bought it on PC. Would gladly buy it day 1 on PC if I was getting more of the same with some improvements + bigger city.
You quoted that out of context. It's the same, but optimised for an open world game. Once you take a game from a track based layout to an open world layout, the mechanics have to change.
Pachterballs
Banned
Drop Traffic Check.
ruined the game.
ruined the game.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
So they don't have fixed that enough
SirMossyBloke
Member
That I cant agree with at all. Traffic check was awesome and you still crashed if it was oncoming or a bigger vehicle. Smashing cars out of the way during a burnout while powersliding around a corner was the best thing ever.
Edit: As far as Crash for an open world game, just create a Crash arena. A large open area with roads and cars set up driving around. Or a crash island maybe.
legacyzero
Banned
IIRC, I read that they avoided doing that with Paradise to avoid an M rating.
onimushroom
Member
I just recently tried the demos for Ridge Racer Unbounded and Forza Horizon, and all I could think of was how I really want a new Burnout Paradise where I can smash cars left and right. No other racing game has had the draw that Paradise had for me. I would be all over a next-gen version.
edit: Oh, forgot to mention that I didn't even touch the multiplayer component of it. All my fun was had while just driving around Paradise City and looking for smashable fences and signs.
edit: Oh, forgot to mention that I didn't even touch the multiplayer component of it. All my fun was had while just driving around Paradise City and looking for smashable fences and signs.
Correct. Same reason why when riding a motorcycle, the rider disappears during a crash sequence.
Well, that sucks. How did Flatout got away with the T rating?
legacyzero
Banned
But the problem is, If you look at Flatout (a game infamous for ragdoll, as it's a core of the game) it's rated T.
So unless Criterion didn't put it in to avoid blood and whatever else...
A FEW?
Heh, autolog has nothing to do with that. You can have both.
Quicksilver4648
Member
I am just chiming in here to say that if Burnout Paradise 2 is in fact happening and it does release around next gen launch then I might be jumping onto the new consoles a litter earlier than initially thought.
What to keep: The destruction
What to gain: More emphasis on actual races, online and off.
What to keep: The destruction
What to gain: More emphasis on actual races, online and off.
Burnout 4 = Burnout Revenge
Showtime isn't a good replacement for Crash but I still liked Showtime. It was like "Car Katamari".
I would take Crash over Showtime but having both modes would be nice.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
The city should be at least 4 times as large as the one in Burnout Paradise. Or even larger.
We also need more cars.
WE NEED MORE OF EVERYTHING!!!
(Also, I want a Wii U version, please, even if it won't look as good as the PS4/Xbox 720 version)
I fucking LOVED Burnout Paradise. It was my first Burnout game and I loved every little thing about it.
It's still soooooooo much fun to play online against friends.
We also need more cars.
WE NEED MORE OF EVERYTHING!!!
(Also, I want a Wii U version, please, even if it won't look as good as the PS4/Xbox 720 version)
I fucking LOVED Burnout Paradise. It was my first Burnout game and I loved every little thing about it.
It's still soooooooo much fun to play online against friends.
Damon Bennet
Member
I disliked burnout paradise. I enjoyed the over the topness of burnout 3 and revenge, even traffic checking.
Give me:
Burnout 3 blue skies
Burnout Revenge Speed and crashes
Burnout 3 crash junctions
and MORE of EVERYTHING.
paradise was cool for what it was, but i wanted a burnout game, and not an open world tony hawks pro car-racer
Give me:
Burnout 3 blue skies
Burnout Revenge Speed and crashes
Burnout 3 crash junctions
and MORE of EVERYTHING.
paradise was cool for what it was, but i wanted a burnout game, and not an open world tony hawks pro car-racer
AlphaTwo00
Member
Seeing the progression of Paradise->HP->MW, I'm actually not sure whether the whole "bigger" world metric holds weight at all. Hot Pursuit's actual map size is actually much much bigger than Paradise (and even Most Wanted), but there's less things to do because of the lack of complexity and layering in map. Most Wanted was the middle ground, but even on the long highway stretches, it felt liked a missed opportunity, and I caught myself wondering where were the shortcuts, where's the multiple routes.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
This. Paradise was a disappointment to me because it removed too much of the things that made it Burnout.
I don't see why not, they simply build multiple parts of the open world designed for it, just like they design parts of the world for stunt runs etc. then just block bits off and load up more traffic, I really don't see why they can't do it.
Have we gone back to the first release or something, you have been able to restart races for years. And it didn't even take 10 minutes to drive across the whole map, let alone 30 seconds to a minute to get to the nearest one.
Some of the replies and hyperbole in this thread, lol.
UnluckyKate
Member
i want this
AlphaTwo00
Member
Paradise got a E10 (one of the first to get the E10). Also:
Flatout: closed/semi-closed circuits, and not in "city traffic" with oncoming cars
Burnout: in a city, crashing head on into other cars.
It's a fine line, but you don't really want to test the ESRB's fine line definition just to risk it.
SirMossyBloke
Member
Scumbag Criterion:
Asks what we want in a game
Most requested feature is shot down
Asks what we want in a game
Most requested feature is shot down
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
Pretty sure you send in a demonstration of your game to ESRB and they tell you what they would rate that and why so you know what to change if you want. It's not like you only have one shot at a rating and then you are stuck with it.
One thing for sure is ESRB change's their opinion on what classifies as what rating a lot, so maybe we'll see actual drivers next time.
How do you know it was the most requested feature? All the tweet said is there were enough requests to warrant a response, it could of still been a small percentage of the overall requests.
SirMossyBloke
Member
If its enough to warrant a response, its enough to consider adding instead of basically saying no immediately,
I loved the setting of paradise, and I'm not worried about graphics from criterion.
Main change I want is to not need to concentrate on the GPS widget and worrying if I miss my turning. Instead I want my eyeballs to dry to a crisp because I can't blink while attempting to navigate oncoming traffic at 150mph. I don't want to think, I want to connect my optic nerves directly to the dualshock.
Main change I want is to not need to concentrate on the GPS widget and worrying if I miss my turning. Instead I want my eyeballs to dry to a crisp because I can't blink while attempting to navigate oncoming traffic at 150mph. I don't want to think, I want to connect my optic nerves directly to the dualshock.
fierrotlepou
Member
Burnout Takedown 2. That's what you have to make.