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Call of Duty: Black Ops III |OT| No Content For Old Gen

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Jblanks

Member
Nokterian said:
From the horse his mouth

https://twitter.com/DavidVonderhaar/status/678622871942393857



So there wasn't any SBMM.
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So they released a hot fix, and didn't say anything about it. And after that hotfix I was getting in games with a lot higher prestige level players, with fairly close SPM to me, and rarely saw a non - prestiger, then a whole bunch of ranting about SBMM occurred, and then another hot fix was released, and I was back to playing with a mix of levels...

Maybe it was placebo IDK.
 
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TheGoreMagala

Member
Jblanks said:
Uhh..yess, please never use it because its so bad ... :)

I was going to post how good it is now; I was wrecking yesterday with a silencer on it, I think it's great, and in my top 3 SMGs.
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Rixxan said:
its slightly better than it was, but yes i personally would still agree that its the worst of the lot

decent at mid range, horrid up close, without rapid fire its entirely useless imo
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ep1CAEous

The first game I've played with it in months (first time with Combat Focus, too), and I get my first 100+ game with it. Almost got a third mothership. It's definitely a gun to be reckoned with.
 
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TimeEffect

Member
So, as someone who gets frustrated with 6v6 (too many players running together resulting in impossible 2v1 scenarios), I just discovered arena has a mode similar to team tactical!

Is arena moshpit really popular? I wish they just put it in the standard playlist and called it team tactical. I can play 4v4 forever
 
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TheGoreMagala

Member
TimeEffect said:
So, as someone who gets frustrated with 6v6 (too many players running together resulting in impossible 2v1 scenarios), I just discovered arena has a mode similar to team tactical!

Is arena moshpit really popular? I wish they just put it in the standard playlist and called it team tactical. I can play 4v4 forever
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Hah, I can only imagine you playing the Ground War mode (it's 9v9)!
 
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Xater

Member
I noticed something wonky that rob ably is related to matchmaking. I have had way too many matches today during which people leave and no new people come in. Which means you can have entire matches going 6vs4.
 
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Calabi

Member
Capture the flag is bugged. I wondered why a team mate wasnt taking the flag back I cant take the flag back is there some trick to it.

I go all the way to their base then come back to the point and it doesnt work. Not once twice now.
 
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TheGoreMagala

Member
Calabi said:
Capture the flag is bugged. I wondered why a team mate wasnt taking the flag back I cant take the flag back is there some trick to it.

I go all the way to their base then come back to the point and it doesnt work. Not once twice now.
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Your flag has to be in your base to score a point. If someone else has your flag or if it's anywhere else on the map except your base, you can't score.
 
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SonicAaron

Member
What are people's views of suppressors? Is it just me or do they turn everyone else's gun to shit?

Really want to run with one at the cost of Grip but always feel if I do that the gun becomes a hit marker machine.

Is grip essential?

Want to use the dingo with suppressor but know if I switch grip with silencer it'll all go wrong!
 
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jorgejjvr

Member
SonicAaron said:
What are people's views of suppressors? Is it just me or do they turn everyone else's gun to shit?

Really want to run with one at the cost of Grip but always feel if I do that the gun becomes a hit marker machine.

Is grip essential?

Want to use the dingo with suppressor but know if I switch grip with silencer it'll all go wrong!
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Suppressor used to make the gun horrible, but not anymore

I use it on sgms all the time.

I hear lmgs are a whole different story

Essential for me is grip, possibly stock as well
 
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TheGoreMagala

Member
SonicAaron said:
What are people's views of suppressors? Is it just me or do they turn everyone else's gun to shit?

Really want to run with one at the cost of Grip but always feel if I do that the gun becomes a hit marker machine.

Is grip essential?

Want to use the dingo with suppressor but know if I switch grip with silencer it'll all go wrong!
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Suppressor is MUCH more viable. Suppressor and grip together rocks, dude. Stock as well if you're using an SMG. They buffed them to the point that they're actually worth a create a class point on. Definitely a good attachment.

However, I have heard that it decreases LMG ranges by 80%-90%, I'm not sure if they've changed that.
 
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TheGoreMagala

Member
SonicAaron said:
Interesting! I might use it on smg's and AR's but not LMG.

Disappointing Cus I'm going through an LMG phase atm haha.
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Keep in mind that they might have changed the 80%-90% thing on LMGs when they buffed the silencers (it might be old news). At the very least, they're worth trying out.
 
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Calabi

Member
TheGoreMagala said:
Your flag has to be in your base to score a point. If someone else has your flag or if it's anywhere else on the map except your base, you can't score.
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Well I feel dumb. I harrassed(just kept standing in front of him) a teammate because he wouldn't return the enemies flag to our base. I guess he was blocking the other team.
 
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Hamster Plugin

Member
Do not use suppressors on shotguns. I had to put one on an Argus because I had nothing else to put on for the "optic + 5 attachments" camo challenge at that point. It killed the gun's damage entirely, couldn't 1-shot even at point blank range sometimes.
 
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SonicAaron

Member
I've been liking the Assault Rifle / LMG slower play style of late. Hanging back, getting kills, and taking down air support.

But there's always the chance I fancy running around with an SMG. . . what's everyones favourite for that style?

On that occasion I take off my Black Cell to free up a pick ten slot and stick Ghost on. I see everyone using Vesper, and VMP - but I've always used Kuda - am I at a disadvantage?

Ghost, Scavenger, Dead Silence and my gun has silencer and laser. But I feel I really should have Gung Ho on as that means I can fire while sprinting. Hmmmm.
 
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TheGoreMagala

Member
SonicAaron said:
I've been liking the Assault Rifle / LMG slower play style of late. Hanging back, getting kills, and taking down air support.

But there's always the chance I fancy running around with an SMG. . . what's everyones favourite for that style?

On that occasion I take off my Black Cell to free up a pick ten slot and stick Ghost on. I see everyone using Vesper, and VMP - but I've always used Kuda - am I at a disadvantage?

Ghost, Scavenger, Dead Silence and my gun has silencer and laser. But I feel I really should have Gung Ho on as that means I can fire while sprinting. Hmmmm.
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Every gun is viable, it's all a matter of preference. For example, I really love the Kuda, Weevil, and Razorback and can destroy with them. Meanwhile, some people prefer the high fire rate of the Vesper, while others prefer the VMP for running and gunning because of its fast but manageable rate of fire.

I use the Kuda because it's extremely accurate and easy to use. The Weevil is the SMG to put a silencer on and kill people from behind/the sides. The Razorback is the perfect SMG/AR hybrid, outclassing almost everything as long as you're prepared for the gunfight and accurate with your shots. Also a good stealthy ranged SMG.

Stock is GODLY for SMGs. Grip is good for any of them if recoil is an issue. Suppressors are good now after the buff. It's all personal choice, honestly. Any weapon in this game is viable.
 
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Hamster Plugin

Member
Spizz said:
Just saw a Star Wars spoiler on someone's emblem. Nowhere is safe anymore.
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When I saw the "don't play Battlefront, people have spoiler avatars" thread, I immediately went to options and put on the user created content filter and muted all mics (don't care about public chat anyway).
 
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eek5

Member
Nokterian said:
From david vondenhaar on twitter.

https://twitter.com/DavidVonderhaar/status/678622871942393857



So there wasn't any SBMM.
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There is honestly no way something didn't change. I went from being top 5 in 100% of my matches in leaderboards to bottom 5 in 70% of my leaderboards. TDM lobby leaderboards went from a mix of all players to consistently 90% of the lobby being over 1.5k/d, most of the time over 1.7 and it wasn't even parties. I was playing in the day and most people were singles too so it wasn't some bad luck. On top of all that my connections were funky in half my matches.

Of course, they release a mid-day weekend playlist update and after that everything is back to normal but nothing changed with matchmaking. Riiiight.

SonicAaron said:
I've been liking the Assault Rifle / LMG slower play style of late. Hanging back, getting kills, and taking down air support.

But there's always the chance I fancy running around with an SMG. . . what's everyones favourite for that style?

On that occasion I take off my Black Cell to free up a pick ten slot and stick Ghost on. I see everyone using Vesper, and VMP - but I've always used Kuda - am I at a disadvantage?

Ghost, Scavenger, Dead Silence and my gun has silencer and laser. But I feel I really should have Gung Ho on as that means I can fire while sprinting. Hmmmm.
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You have to read the players/connection and make a decision based on that. If you're coming around corners and losing 100% of your 1v1s to vmp/vesper users due to TTK then you have to even the playing field. The TTK for most weapons is close enough where in the majority of situations you'll be able to compete if you have good reaction times, map awareness, etc. so in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter but once you face someone at a similar skill level to you, that has a connection advantage over you, there is no way you're going to be able to compete with anything but the fast TTK weapons.
 
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Nokterian

Member
eek5 said:
There is honestly no way something didn't change. I went from being top 5 in 100% of my matches in leaderboards to bottom 5 in 70% of my leaderboards. TDM lobby leaderboards went from a mix of all players to consistently 90% of the lobby being over 1.5k/d, most of the time over 1.7 and it wasn't even parties. I was playing in the day and most people were singles too so it wasn't some bad luck. On top of all that my connections were funky in half my matches.

Of course, they release a mid-day weekend playlist update and after that everything is back to normal but nothing changed with matchmaking. Riiiight.



You have to read the players/connection and make a decision based on that. If you're coming around corners and losing 100% of your 1v1s to vmp/vesper users due to TTK then you have to even the playing field. The TTK for most weapons is close enough where in the majority of situations you'll be able to compete if you have good reaction times, map awareness, etc. so in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter but once you face someone at a similar skill level to you, that has a connection advantage over you, there is no way you're going to be able to compete with anything but the fast TTK weapons.
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Here are some follow up tweets

https://twitter.com/DavidVonderhaar/status/678654213702873088

Let me get this out of the way so we can all go back to having fun.

First, I love you. I'll be as transparent as I can get away with. +
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https://twitter.com/DavidVonderhaar/status/678654573431558144

We did tune matchmaking. It was tweaked.

I said as much on Friday as I try to do whenever we hotfix the game. +
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https://twitter.com/DavidVonderhaar/status/678655026210824193

It did come with consequences we didn't understand in totality.

We also un-tweaked it the following day, until we can investigate. +
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https://twitter.com/DavidVonderhaar/status/678655755432493057

What we didn't do is "turn on" or implement anything new that would deliberately prioritize any criteria over connection.

And we won't.
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Looks they messed it up with the matchmaking it self that's why it is reverted.
 
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TimeEffect

Member
Do you guys think we'll see more perks?

Id love some kind of perk to breathe underwater longer.

A mildly competent opponent always manages to take out UAV making it very hard for me to justify using it too. Any chance theyll make it harder to take them down
 
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Spizz

Banned
TimeEffect said:
Do you guys think we'll see more perks?

Id love some kind of perk to breathe underwater longer.

A mildly competent opponent always manages to take out UAV making it very hard for me to justify using it too. Any chance theyll make it harder to take them down
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I doubt we'll see new perks, although I wouldn't say never. I do think we'll see new specialists and maybe new weapons someday.
 
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Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
Spizz said:
I doubt we'll see new perks, although I wouldn't say never. I do think we'll see new specialists and maybe new weapons someday.
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We've already got new melee weapons (though I'm guessing they are functionally identical to the combat knife) available through the black market. I'd be shocked if they were the last.

Perks do seem less likely.
 
geordiemp

geordiemp

Member
Nokterian said:
Here are some follow up tweets


Looks they messed it up with the matchmaking it self that's why it is reverted.
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Was there any notes about display of ping in the pause screen when playing on Ps4.

I always check the ping of most games when in play, but tonight the ping chart and numbers where not there.

Was ping data patched out, I cannot seem to find it anymore in game
 
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SonicAaron

Member
Once you play combine once then you might as well leave the lobby as its guaranteed to be voted for infinitely.

Maps need capped at two. Repeat once fine, but after that no.
 
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Xater

Member
SonicAaron said:
Once you play combine once then you might as well leave the lobby as its guaranteed to be voted for infinitely.

Maps need capped at two. Repeat once fine, but after that no.
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Yup, it's really sad.

Now the Vision Pulse challenges to get the specialist equipment are my new bane of existence. Trying to do all of these for all the specialst will be challenging...
 
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Invis

Member
Does the population for this game seem to be higher on the PS4 or the Xbox One? Overall and for GAF? I have this game on PC but I'm looking to get a console copy as well.
 
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TheGoreMagala

Member
What's a greater achievement?

1. A nuclear Calling Card
2. An animated Master Killer Calling Card
3. A Nuked Out (nuclear in FFA) Calling Card

I ask because I'm one quad feed from Master Killer, and I'm wondering if I should stick with that animated Calling Card or if I should go for Nuked Out. Ugh, I wished they kept the showcase from BO2 that let you put three calling cards for show aside from the one you were already using. Sadly, in this game it seems you can only pick one, so which should it be?
 
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Rixxan

Member
Nuked Out is the most impressive card in the game imho

edit1: I'm just glad they patched the regular nuke card exploit else I'd be less happy with mine

edit2: i think im gonna start working on the nuked out challenge soon
 
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TimeEffect

Member
How is the balance with SMGs and ARs? Can an AR ADS faster than SMG? Can an SMG kill at longrr range better than an AR?

there is so much customization that it seems possible (how effective is something like the ADS perk/attachment on an AR?)

I generally play more grounded with my AR and jump around with my SMG.

Basically, with the right perks and attachments,
can an AR act like an SMG?
 
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TheGoreMagala

Member
TimeEffect said:
How is the balance with SMGs and ARs? Can an AR ADS faster than SMG? Can an SMG kill at longrr range better than an AR?

there is so much customization that it seems possible (how effective is something like the ADS perk/attachment on an AR?)

I generally play more grounded with my AR and jump around with my SMG.

Basically, with the right perks and attachments,
can an AR act like an SMG?
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I'm quite confident that they balanced weapons, perks, and attachments so that one weapon type cannot become another. Theoretically, with the right perks and attachments, you can make an AR become this hybrid weapon that handles a little better than a regular AR would, but not quite as good as an SMG. Therefore, such a weapon would compete with SMGs far better, but won't usurp the main role of an SMG itself. At close range SMGs should generally have the advantage.
 
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