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Call of Duty: Black Ops III |OT| No Content For Old Gen

RazorUK

Pilot, your Titan is ready, prepare for Titanbombs
I finally got 100 kills today in Hardcore Domination so I thought I'd share. I think having the GAF clan tag gave me good luck.

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excaliburps

Press - MP1st.com
I have the opposite problem. Nearly every other game I'm being lumped with clans and organized teams that just decimate my team and whip out scorestreaks like nothing.

And I'm only an average player. The only thing I'm really good at is shooting down scorestreaks. Maybe the system is looking at that and is like "Hur der, sweaty tryhard found."

It balances the teams out. So, say, jorge or someone that gets a ton of kills or something, won't be paired up with super players as to not unbalance matches -- at least from what I've seen, experienced and heard. Treyarch keeps spouting "connection is king!" and other BS, but the meat of it is, matchmaking is shit.

Not saying I'm super good, you're not, etc. It just handles it weirdly. Say, you're doing well, don't expect to be lumped in with the clan, since matches will be lopsided (this is logical). But, if there's a glut of bad players, the good ones are expected to carry them even if he's alone or with just one "non-scrub" player. Mind, this is from my experience, watching videos, etc. and no hard data. I've seen countless people on GAF, online and whatnot who are experiencing this. Best solution is to play Mercenary Moshpit so there's no parties involved.

I've lost count how many times I've been in games where the bottom four on my team can't even break 1K per round of Dom or sees a ton of guys dead and won't even attempt to get B.

It's like someone on Treyarch who handles team balancing and whatnot just wants scrubs to be able to get a W, but at the same time is telling good players to go give themselves an enema. :}
 

excaliburps

Press - MP1st.com
What attachments are you running on the razorback aside from the Elo? It looks like fast mags and stock?

From what I know, we rock the same Razorback setup (ELO, Suppressor, Fast Mags and Rapid Fire).


Nice. Dude, you do know you can make the Hellstorm rapidly go down and stuff, right? That's so enemies can't hide inside structures and you can even make it "hit" the floor for a big splash damage. :)

LOL at your enemies not even trying to get rid of the Cerberus.

Very nice. :)

Pretty much


Matchmaking issues aside, yeah, Black Ops 3 is pretty balanced, which is surprising given how there's Specialists, etc.

It's certainly more balanced than AW where everyone was using the BAL. Or heck, I remember spamming the shit out of the FAL in autofire mode in Black Ops 2.

In Black Ops 3, almost every gun can be argued as the "best" in its class. SMGs have Pharo, Kuda, Razorback, Vesper; while ARs have XR-2, M8A7, etc.

Sidenote: Jorge, I couldn't join your squad since it's always full! I do get the invites though. :)
 

Skittles

Member
Jorge has the devil's luck sometimes I swear :p

BRM is pretty damn beastly. Have yet to not go positive with it and was so close to getting a quad feed with it
 

jorgejjvr

Member
Pretty good but what about this crazy frenzy kill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnXvBNgXBDE

And a bonus epic rejack kill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWG08GKT6cI

I really should stop using grenades because I kill myself alot with them.
Yep that was pretty good! Watch my comeback on my video below tho ;)

What attachments are you running on the razorback aside from the Elo? It looks like fast mags and stock?
Elo, suppressor, rapid fire, fast mag

Jorge has the devil's luck sometimes I swear :p

BRM is pretty damn beastly. Have yet to not go positive with it and was so close to getting a quad feed with it

Haha thanks xD I actually get some really unlucky deads tho

It feels like the car streak xdrd (something like that) ALWAYS goes for me lol. And I have the horrible luck of dying too often when I'm 15-100 points to a steak

This whole come back was crazy -

Went to a losing game of 70-150, all flags taken by the enemy....

Yet I made a comeback and we won in 5 minutes xD

https://youtu.be/hjXjTwNXomQ
 
Yeah the game is well balanced.

Id say the only things off are scorestreak/blackcell balance and Vesper beating out shotguns. It feels much more easier to use vesper with the right attachments than run with a shotgun, especially since it also has better range than a shotgun.

Also, Im a little put off by some of the spawns, but it's not too bad on most maps.
 

Hikami

Member
Game is only balanced if you stick to your favorite weapons that you do good with.
If you're trying to go for Dark Matter like I am, it's apparent that a lot of guns are shit and outclassed by others in every situation.
 

lamaroo

Unconfirmed Member
Game is only balanced if you stick to your favorite weapons that you do good with.
If you're trying to go for Dark Matter like I am, it's apparent that a lot of guns are shit and outclassed by others in every situation.

Which guns are outclassed?

The shotguns are terrible for the most part, and snipers are hard, but other than the ICR and Weevil I feel like you've got a chance against anything but a close encounter with a Vesper.
 
Which guns are outclassed?

The shotguns are terrible for the most part, and snipers are hard, but other than the ICR and Weevil I feel like you've got a chance against anything but a close encounter with a Vesper.

I disagree, the Weevil and ICR are amazing weapons and easy to use. They fill a perfect niche and I don't find them to be outclassed at all. Both the Weevil and ICR are among the best weapons to use with a silencer and flank with.
 
For all those interested, I'm Jorge's brother (and skill does indeed run in the family). Sadly, I haven't been playing that much recently because of classes and such, but add me so that if we both happen to be online, we can party up (I hate being forced to carry my team in every single match I play).

PSN: TheGoreMagala
 

lamaroo

Unconfirmed Member
I disagree, the Weevil and ICR are amazing weapons and easy to use. They fill a perfect niche and I don't find them to be outclassed at all. Both the Weevil and ICR are among the best weapons to use with a silencer and flank with.

I'm talking about a straight on gun fight, they're definitely outclassed. I love using the ICR, but you have to be smarter with it than most weapons.
 
I'm talking about a straight on gun fight, they're definitely outclassed. I love using the ICR, but you have to be smarter with it than most weapons.

Perhaps, but that's arguable depending on the circumstances. Admittedly, those two weapons do rely on catching enemies off guard.
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
Tdm matches feel too long now. What was their reasoning for upping the score limit. Nice coincidence that it coincidences with 2x weekend. :p
 
Good games tonight everyone. Raked in like 220 keys so far this weekend. Not double xp, but still fun to get some swag at the end of the day.
 

Skittles

Member
For all those interested, I'm Jorge's brother (and skill does indeed run in the family). Sadly, I haven't been playing that much recently because of classes and such, but add me so that if we both happen to be online, we can party up (I hate being forced to carry my team in every single match I play).

PSN: TheGoreMagala
Damn haha, no wonder you're both monsters :p. I too hate carrying my team, it's like they don't move unless I do. It was so bad trying to play dom when I was doing shotguns because no one would be there to compensate for my lack of range. Now that i'm doing lmgs I can't really cap points without dying
 

Repo Man

Member
It was so bad trying to play dom when I was doing shotguns because no one would be there to compensate for my lack of range. Now that i'm doing lmgs I can't really cap points without dying

Damn I'm dreading doing the shotties, I've only dabbled in them casually so far and deemed them not my thing.
 
The guy on the killcam is using a Brecci shotgun, which does not shoot anywhere near that fast normally. The one that was on my game didn't have a silencer on (putting one on a shotgun is a bad idea) and it sounded ridiculous.
 

shanafan

Member
Got shot twice in a row by a teammate in HTDM and he wasn't kicked. Should be an autokick. Luckily, he killed another teammate and then was kicked.
 
Can't really find a weapon I am comfortable with.

The KN-44 is good, but I find it to be inconsistent.
The ICR-1 is really good, but not having a Long Barrel is killing it for me and getting smacked by Vespers is fucking annoying.
The Man-O-War is nice but something about it feels off.

Haven't used the Shieva or the last one yet.

I like the Kuda, but it doesn't have enough range. Does a Long Barrel really help that one?
 

jorgejjvr

Member
Can't really find a weapon I am comfortable with.

The KN-44 is good, but I find it to be inconsistent.
The ICR-1 is really good, but not having a Long Barrel is killing it for me and getting smacked by Vespers is fucking annoying.
The Man-O-War is nice but something about it feels off.

Haven't used the Shieva or the last one yet.

I like the Kuda, but it doesn't have enough range. Does a Long Barrel really help that one?
Try the razorback

Perfect smg/AR hybrid

Or pharo

Seems like you have mostly played around with AR, yet smgs are great
 

excaliburps

Press - MP1st.com
Teammates:

1-15
3-17
0-8

Come on. Happens way too often

Well, take comfort in the fact that according to Treyarch's data, you're good enough that you're paired with scrubs. ;)

That's why I've kinda accepted it. No doubt it's super shitty, but I don't think Treyarch will do anything since they never even acknowledge that there's a problem.

I'm kinda getting super annoyed with Black Ops 3, to be honest. At its core, it's a fun MP shooter. However, there's so much shit that it makes me not want to play it anymore and just go back to BF4.

Few things:
- Shit matchmaking (yeah, 7-4 games are F-U-N!)
- Shit team balancing (as you've highlighted, and has happened to everyone)
- That quaking thing that happens at random. I pick up a lot of guns since I rock only one, and whenever I do, yep, quake and I have to wait a few seconds for it to stop.
- Shit connections. This will never get fixed since Acti doesn't really need to spring for dedicated servers due to CoD audience accepting whatever shit they want.
- Joining me in games where the score is 40-120 (Dom) and scorestreaks all over the place.

Just the tip of the iceberg, friends!

Can't really find a weapon I am comfortable with.

The KN-44 is good, but I find it to be inconsistent.
The ICR-1 is really good, but not having a Long Barrel is killing it for me and getting smacked by Vespers is fucking annoying.
The Man-O-War is nice but something about it feels off.

Haven't used the Shieva or the last one yet.

I like the Kuda, but it doesn't have enough range. Does a Long Barrel really help that one?

If you want an SMG with range and accuracy, use Razorback. Perfect for you. Super minimal recoil, too!

ARs, use XR-2 and M8A7. But for medium to long range engagements since they're burst fire. Well, you can use them up close but you're going to die due to Vespers and whatnot.
 

jorgejjvr

Member
Haven't unlocked it yet. I prefer weapons with high ROF but decent accuracy and damage. My favorite weapon in AW was the SN6.
You described the pharo

Great rof, great for close range, but can also kill at a distance

Razorback is even better at a distance, and less recoil (very accurate), but slower rate of fire - hence why I use rapid fire with it and problem solved

Definitely give a try when you can the pharo, and Razorback. I permanently unlocked both.
 
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