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Call of Duty: Black Ops III |OT| No Content For Old Gen

dude, this is the story of my life

i'm mostly a solo queue'r and i've never seen anyone with better stats than me in a Kill Confirmed lobby

as such i struggle to maintain a 3.0 W/L Ratio because i CONSISTENTLY have people going 0-30 and just feeding the other team tags

if there's bad players in the lobby, its literally guaranteed they'll be put on my team

i understand the need to balance it out, but there should be at least some mild wiggle room for good players to be occasionally be placed with me (im sure there is but my god it feels like there isnt)

Edit: I mean just as a quick example

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HKgSkvG.jpg

You've killed so many people, your team mates don't even have a chance to kill anyone. :).
 

Lgndryhr

Member
So how is this game? What phase of the CoD cycle are we in since launch? Lol.

Been holding off on this title since I enjoyed, and still do, AW. Hadn't enjoyed a CoD since MW 2. I attribute that to taking a break too from the series as well though. I didn't care for BLOPS 1 and 2, MW 3, WaW, or Ghosts.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I didn't care for BLOPS 1 and 2,
This game is not for you then.

For us BLOPS fans, this is Blops taken to its logical conclusion. It's got the best gunplay of the series, and the most balanced maps and weapons.

It's got relatively minor issues like team balancing and objective modes being a clusterfuck of killstreaks but that's cod.
 
I've decided that I'll only buy the DLC if they make Nuke3town free and add it to the standard rotation and add an energy weapon like the AE4. I loved that thing in AW, I got the Diamond camo for it and the Gigawatt elite variant.
 

Xater

Member
Got sick of trying to get headshots with the Brecci so played a bit with the Argus. Man long barrel on that thing is fun.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
This game is not for you then.

For us BLOPS fans, this is Blops taken to its logical conclusion. It's got the best gunplay of the series, and the most balanced maps and weapons.

It's got relatively minor issues like team balancing and objective modes being a clusterfuck of killstreaks but that's cod.


I disagree there. Weapon balance is pretty good, but I think Black Ops 2's was better.
 

Hikami

Member
So I'm at the Gorgon in my dark matter grind and.. holy shit. Why would anyone use this garbage? It takes ages to even get a shot out because of the slow ADS and slow fire rate. I'm supposed to get 100 headshots with this? God why.
 

Calabi

Member
I'm getting so fed up with the way this game organizes teams, it's getting to the point where I'm the only one who goes positive in TDM on my team. They need to fix balancing.

Yeah the team balance is crazy bad in this. I'm having so many matches where my team or the other team is completely destroyed/annihilated(mostly my team) even.
 
I disagree.

KN44 + MSMC is all you ever needed to use, and all 75% of lobbies used.

Black Ops 3 weapon balance is the best it's ever been (not perfect).

Too bad the netcode is terrible. Fix one thing, break another. Such is Call of Duty.



AW had a good netcode but terrible matchmaking.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
So I'm at the Gorgon in my dark matter grind and.. holy shit. Why would anyone use this garbage? It takes ages to even get a shot out because of the slow ADS and slow fire rate. I'm supposed to get 100 headshots with this? God why.
Just suffer through it until you unlock Rapid Fire. it makes a noticeable difference.

You are basically going to be camping with this weapon. I used the Recon Scope plus grip to give me little to no recoil and got the gold relatively quickly. ~800 kills. First couple of hundred kills were me just trying the weapon out. I got 90 headshots in the next 500 kills.
 

Hikami

Member
Just suffer through it until you unlock Rapid Fire. it makes a noticeable difference.

You are basically going to be camping with this weapon. I used the Recon Scope plus grip to give me little to no recoil and got the gold relatively quickly. ~800 kills. First couple of hundred kills were me just trying the weapon out. I got 90 headshots in the next 500 kills.
I've been using it like a Sheiva so far in HC FFA. Got about 20 headshots done.. meh. I think I'll leave this gun for last.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
I disagree.

KN44 + MSMC is all you ever needed to use, and all 75% of lobbies used.

Black Ops 3 weapon balance is the best it's ever been (not perfect).

KN44 is a Black Ops 3 gun... and I don't recall an overabundance of MSMC use. Maybe ARs are better balanced in 3, but I feel as though LMGs, Shotguns, Snipers, and Sidearms were better in 2.
 

Ghazi

Member
dude, this is the story of my life

i'm mostly a solo queue'r and i've never seen anyone with better stats than me in a Kill Confirmed lobby

as such i struggle to maintain a 3.0 W/L Ratio because i CONSISTENTLY have people going 0-30 and just feeding the other team tags

if there's bad players in the lobby, its literally guaranteed they'll be put on my team

i understand the need to balance it out, but there should be at least some mild wiggle room for good players to be occasionally be placed with me (im sure there is but my god it feels like there isnt)

Edit: I mean just as a quick example

aZedYMZ.png


HKgSkvG.jpg

Jesus.
 

Jblanks

Member
KN44 is a Black Ops 3 gun... and I don't recall an overabundance of MSMC use. Maybe ARs are better balanced in 3, but I feel as though LMGs, Shotguns, Snipers, and Sidearms were better in 2.

AN94 or w/e it was called.

I'll give you Snipers and Shotguns for Black Ops 2; LMGs and Sidearms are a wash. I rather have them balance the ARs and SMGs, as they account for the vast majority of guns being used.
 
I don't know about you guys, but I am seeing a fuck ton more people running with shotguns. Its fucking annoying, getting one-shotted is so fucking frustrating, and the shotguns have stupidly good range. I think they need nerfed.
 

Skittles

Member
I don't know about you guys, but I am seeing a fuck ton more people running with shotguns. Its fucking annoying, getting one-shotted is so fucking frustrating, and the shotguns have stupidly good range. I think they need nerfed.
The only shotgun that can one shot with really good range is the argus(and that actually takes skill to use). The KRM's range even with long barrell is so fucking bad it's laughable.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
I don't know about you guys, but I am seeing a fuck ton more people running with shotguns. Its fucking annoying, getting one-shotted is so fucking frustrating, and the shotguns have stupidly good range. I think they need nerfed.

Try using some of the shotguns for a while before you jump to any rash conclusions.
 

Radec

Member
Hmm, that was a pretty lousy pilot. All he needed to do was shoot a single bullet at the dude. Doing that would have made him spawn with everyone else and led to many kills. I wonder if he was even using the thermal vision. It seems like the LMG user was using FMJ. Although I wonder if his teammates were helping him take it down with either bullets or rockets.

It can go down pretty fast against someone who knows how to deal with it. Use a perk to make you invisible from its targetting or infrared.
LMG with FMJ is way better than rockets as well.
My last 2 mothership went down really fast by those dart and lmg+fmj. Ridiculous
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Oh man the Combat Knife challenges have been so much fun. I am barely maintaining a 1.0 KDR but it's so much fun going into Nuketown and staying in the house near the enemy spawn taking people out. I got 200 kills in maybe an hour and a half max. Then got nearly all the challenges including 4 bloodthirsty medals in a game and a half. Need 1 more bloodthirsty and a few more survivor medals. Then the only thing left is to take the enemy's weapon and kill them with it.

I really hope i am easily able to get my last bloodthirsty medal with it because its been so much fun i dont want it tainted.
 

Repo Man

Member
Started using ADS almost exclusively with the Argus last night and theres been an improvement defo but I still stand by my original comment that I feel the weapon is very inconsistent... that or I just simply suck at shotguns which is probably the more likely explanation.

I don't know about you guys, but I am seeing a fuck ton more people running with shotguns. Its fucking annoying, getting one-shotted is so fucking frustrating, and the shotguns have stupidly good range. I think they need nerfed.

Don't know what your experience with shotguns is and how much you've levelled them up or what camo's you've been unlocking but as someone who has been playing shotties pretty much exclusively for the past 3 days I can safely say that I will never think bad thoughts of shotgun users again. These things are a nightmare and a lot of the times require you to adapt to an entirely new playstyle which basically means trying to stick to hunting people down at the more confined spaces of maps since the slightly larger and more open areas often mean instant death from a range you can't possibly get a kill from with a shotty.

Try using some of the shotguns for a while before you jump to any rash conclusions.

So basically this :)
 

Waldini

Member
AW had a good netcode but terrible matchmaking.

Are you serious? Advanced Warfare's netcode was garbage. Never, EVER have I seen so much warping players. Hit-detection was crap... Played the game a solid 7 hours and deciced to never touch it again. Shame, because I loved how the game looked. Might give it another shot soon.

I swear the Man-O-War has gotten worse since the weekend...

I've noticed the same. You walk slower with the thing, like carrying an LMG. The time it takes to bring up your gun to aim takes ... like, forever. The way it fires, even with Rapid Fire is way too slow.
 

Ensoul

Member
I don't know about you guys, but I am seeing a fuck ton more people running with shotguns. Its fucking annoying, getting one-shotted is so fucking frustrating, and the shotguns have stupidly good range. I think they need nerfed.

Funny I was thinking the same exact thing yesterday. I died by a shotgun, watched the replay and said to myself "I cannot believe he killed me from that far away." Problem is all people want to play is combine so with the smaller maps that is all people are running around with.
 

Waldini

Member
Funny I was thinking the same exact thing yesterday. I died by a shotgun, watched the replay and said to myself "I cannot believe he killed me from that far away." Problem is all people want to play is combine so with the smaller maps that is all people are running around with.

Combine is a small map, perfect for SMG/Shotgun. The range on the Argus is insane though.
I miss the "bigger" maps in COD. All of 'em feel small. But I guess thats because of the fast-paced movement nowadays.

Has there been any news regarding DLC weapons? Besides the Melee ones? I'd love to see more weapons "locked" behind the Black Market.
 

Ensoul

Member
Not going to lie, I always pick combine because it is the easiest map to get kills on as well as the best map to complete the double kill challanges for the specialist classes.
 

Waldini

Member
Not going to lie, I always pick combine because it is the easiest map to get kills on as well as the best map to complete the double kill challanges for the specialist classes.

Combine is a good map. I just wish NukeTown was in the regular map-rotation.

Can't wait for the revamped Hijacked. God that map was fantastic.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Started using ADS almost exclusively with the Argus last night and theres been an improvement defo but I still stand by my original comment that I feel the weapon is very inconsistent... that or I just simply suck at shotguns which is probably the more likely explanation.



Don't know what your experience with shotguns is and how much you've levelled them up or what camo's you've been unlocking but as someone who has been playing shotties pretty much exclusively for the past 3 days I can safely say that I will never think bad thoughts of shotgun users again. These things are a nightmare and a lot of the times require you to adapt to an entirely new playstyle which basically means trying to stick to hunting people down at the more confined spaces of maps since the slightly larger and more open areas often mean instant death from a range you can't possibly get a kill from with a shotty.



So basically this :)
Argus is a high skill high reward shotty. With that range, it needed to have some drawbacks and the compromise was that you needed to be very accurate with it.

Shotguns in this game are very fun to use. Try the haymaker. It destroys people and is very easy to fire. Just hipfire and watch people go down.
 

Ensoul

Member
Argus is a high skill high reward shotty. With that range, it needed to have some drawbacks and the compromise was that you needed to be very accurate with it.

Shotguns in this game are very fun to use. Try the haymaker. It destroys people and is very easy to fire. Just hipfire and watch people go down.

I tried using the haymaker and I was awful with it. It was taking 3 or 4 shots to kill people almost point blank. By the time I hit them 2 or 3 times they simply fired their weapson and I died first.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
I tried using the haymaker and I was awful with it. It was taking 3 or 4 shots to kill people almost point blank. By the time I hit them 2 or 3 times they simply fired their weapson and I died first.

Haymaker generally isn't a very good weapon. It's a 3-shot minimum (sometimes 4-shot at a longer range) kill, without significantly greater firing speed than say, the 2-shot Brecci.

It used to be 2-shot at close ranges in the early days of the game, but people cried nerf.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
I think the KRM is the best shotgun in the game.

Seriously? With it's meager range and slow pump-action (like, someone-can-turn-a-full-180-and-kill-you-from-full-health-before-you-pump-it slow)?

Or are you one of those people who don't like shotguns?
 

Xater

Member
Seriously? With it's meager range and slow pump-action (like, someone-can-turn-a-full-180-and-kill-you-from-full-health-before-you-pump-it slow)?

Or are you one of those people who don't like shotguns?

It's the gun shotgun I am doing best with. You just need to move on small maps. Get Afterbruner, Tracker and Gung-Ho and you are golden. Just jump around all day and shoot fools from above. Was one of the easiest guns to gold for me.
 

lamaroo

Unconfirmed Member
It's the gun shotgun I am doing best with. You just need to move on small maps. Get Afterbruner, Tracker and Gung-Ho and you are golden. Just jump around all day and shoot fools from above. Was one of the easiest guns to gold for me.

Make sure you ADS out of sprinting to take advantage of Gun-Ho, otherwise it dose nothing.
 

eek5

Member
Finally finished my outrider sparrow hero armor. I'm so fucking bad with the sparrow. Ended up not using the draw much and just spamming it in mid-range. Worked better than expected

some of the highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znBAeYMdaHg

When you draw it back and it becomes hitscan it should behave like annihilator which I'm good at but I could never figure out why I couldn't get kills with sparrow like that. Something about the movement or maybe the circle crosshair threw me off.
 

lamaroo

Unconfirmed Member
While would I want to ADS when I can just shoot while sprinting?

There is still a delay between pressing the shoot button, and having it shoot iirc.

I was wrong in my original post though, it does reduce the time, but it's the same amount of time as Fast Hands. XclusiveAce did a test.
 

Ensoul

Member
So I have been going through the specialist classes trying to get all the armor and heads unlocked. I have to say I was surprised how good the kinetic armor ended up being. It works great on smaller maps (combine) and ended up with a few double kills and a triple kill.
 

Xater

Member
So I have been going through the specialist classes trying to get all the armor and heads unlocked. I have to say I was surprised how good the kinetic armor ended up being. It works great on smaller maps (combine) and ended up with a few double kills and a triple kill.

I use it on small maps with shotguns. Super fun.

Edit: Will I be able to get 100 headshots with the Brecci before I max prestige the gun? I am taking bets now.
 
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