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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 |OT| Got 99 Problems, But Sales Ain't One.
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For someone who has played days and days of Modern Warfare 1, played a bit of Modern Warfare 2 but thought it was kinda the same as MW1 and played Black Ops for maybe one hour before realising that it was the worst 60 dollars spent on a game ever, would MW3 be a good buy?
I'm a PC gamer btw.
I'm a PC gamer btw.
Yeah weird (if we can believe the chart). My favorite weapon together with Rapid Fire.hamchan said:
Bleh, Metacritic is so full of stupid but obvious trolls.snack said:
CoD 4 was my favorite, I loved MW 2 as well. I thought Blops was decent but nowhere as fun as the Modern Warfare games.Ryan_ said:
Game is pretty solid though the maps are pretty bad designed.
I'd say it's worth it (for the X360 that is atleast).
Kill Confirmed is FUCKING. GENIUUUUUUUUSSSSSSS.
It makes for ridiculous, messy firefights you'd otherwise never find in these games, but I'll be damned if it's not fun as hell. This is the type of stuff you do to curb camping.
It makes for ridiculous, messy firefights you'd otherwise never find in these games, but I'll be damned if it's not fun as hell. This is the type of stuff you do to curb camping.
Outside of pulling a MW2 PC and not showing players their K/D ratio on the leaderboards. Which more games need to do.
kayos90 said:
Yeah, those levels along with Heart of the Reich were just downright sadistic, I'd say WAW was the hardest COD game for me to beat on Vet. The grenade spam on some of those levels was unbelievable, there was times where I didn't think I would get through it, but after hours of torture I did. I don't miss the grenade spam in MW3, but this just feels dumbed down for Vet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdSQlrgMKnM
Lionheart1827
Member
Wow Grinch is voiced by Tobey Mcguire? Didnt even notice it.
Enosh
Member
2011 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 Grinch Video Game Voice-overLionheart1827 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobey_Maguire
2011 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 Grinch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Olyphant
soooo....
I am quite sure it's Timothy Olyphant, saw his name in the credits
Lionheart1827
Member
Enosh said:
Oh ok. Knew the guys voice was way too low.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Sigh...the spawning in this game is rage inducing. How is it fair to spawn someone and have them surrounded by four baddies. LOL
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Took some time, but the game finally began to click for me tonight.
Different kind of playstyle, different guns, etc. Seems to be working out rather well.
Different kind of playstyle, different guns, etc. Seems to be working out rather well.
Axis
Member
i'm really enjoying the p90 in mw3.
also had a problem arise yesterday morning. i leveled from 60-64 in a session and got disconnected from xbl...when i reconnected i was back to 60 and lost all the xp/challenges/unlocks i had received during that time. >:/
level 69 and counting...lets get to prestige!
also had a problem arise yesterday morning. i leveled from 60-64 in a session and got disconnected from xbl...when i reconnected i was back to 60 and lost all the xp/challenges/unlocks i had received during that time. >:/
level 69 and counting...lets get to prestige!
Fixed.DarkFlow83 said:
Also, finally got my K
ratio to at least 2, argh. At first I didn't know the maps and I got my ass kicked so badly, but the last few matches have been fairly smooth. I play mostly TDM so K is kind of a sign of how good/bad I do, seeing how I can't find the SPM that Black Ops had...Freezie KO
Banned
These maps make me feel as if Infinity Ward must really disdain anyone who tries to actually slow their game down and play strategically.
I just question so many of these choices. Examples:
What's with the elevation usage, specifically in Hardhat? The hills, as used in this game, destroy sightlines and make the encounters completely perfunctory.
Speaking of Hardhat, it's also plagued with random and bizarre cover that also hurts Downturn. So much of the cover isn't even at chest or stomach level, so it's useless to actually peek out behind. It's there so players can keep running around nonstop without having to consider where they're going or worry about getting shot.
The house in Mission. Obviously it could've been used as a decent counter-sniping spot, but they completely removed the cover from the window area. Instead it's a useless spot. It's pure luck if you go up there and don't get shot. Just one example like this of several.
The blue curtains in Dome. Another example that is found in other maps, but here's one that is there solely to disrupt any sense of long range battle. If you're lucky enough to climb up to the grating on Dome, you're blessed with the worst sniping spot imaginable. You have pretty much one good sightline, and it's to an opening in SMG range.
I could go on. This is really the game for people who thought Black Ops had too much thinking and strategy involved.
And fuck the weapon leveling system, but that's a whole 'nother complaint.
I just question so many of these choices. Examples:
What's with the elevation usage, specifically in Hardhat? The hills, as used in this game, destroy sightlines and make the encounters completely perfunctory.
Speaking of Hardhat, it's also plagued with random and bizarre cover that also hurts Downturn. So much of the cover isn't even at chest or stomach level, so it's useless to actually peek out behind. It's there so players can keep running around nonstop without having to consider where they're going or worry about getting shot.
The house in Mission. Obviously it could've been used as a decent counter-sniping spot, but they completely removed the cover from the window area. Instead it's a useless spot. It's pure luck if you go up there and don't get shot. Just one example like this of several.
The blue curtains in Dome. Another example that is found in other maps, but here's one that is there solely to disrupt any sense of long range battle. If you're lucky enough to climb up to the grating on Dome, you're blessed with the worst sniping spot imaginable. You have pretty much one good sightline, and it's to an opening in SMG range.
I could go on. This is really the game for people who thought Black Ops had too much thinking and strategy involved.
And fuck the weapon leveling system, but that's a whole 'nother complaint.
TheApatheticOne
Member
Played a little bit more last night, and after Day 2 and just a brief time with the game (only level 19), Im very mixed.
Quick thoughts
- I understand the complaints about the size of the levels. When you think of the layouts of this game and MW1, they are similar. I think the issue with that is that unlike MW1, you have all these new killstreaks that just dont really work in levels this size. Calling in care packages is tough because the levels are so small and when you place down a SAM or Sentry, its only a matter of seconds before someone takes it down (and yes, Im not placing it in awful positions). Air killstreaks such as helicopters and AC-130's seem to be useless (not that Im earning them) due to the small levels that are filled to the brim with buildings.
- Kill Confirmed is probably my favorite thing to come from this CoD so far. Will probably take over Domination as my favorite game mode since the points for Domination are so bad. I will say one of the first things I would like added is Mercenary Kill Confirmed. Running into groups and clans over and over is already wearing thin.
- RIP MW2 SPAS. The SPAS is absolutely terrible in this.
- A lot of worrying about quickscoping seems to be for nothing 'so far'. Due to the level designs Im guessing, in the games Ive played, Ive yet to be killed by a quickscoper.
- I know this one reeks of scrub whining (which makes sense, I am one and my K/D is like .8 in this game so far), but as smooth as everything here plays, I cant get over the fact that everyone seems to be playing .5-1 second in the future. Everyone isnt that quick.
All in all, Im enjoying it although it probably doesn't sound like it. Kill Confirmed is a great addition, I like the level designs although I think they would work a LOT better in MW1, and I like the weapons. There is stuff that needs fixed and adjusted, but we're still in launch week.
Quick thoughts
- I understand the complaints about the size of the levels. When you think of the layouts of this game and MW1, they are similar. I think the issue with that is that unlike MW1, you have all these new killstreaks that just dont really work in levels this size. Calling in care packages is tough because the levels are so small and when you place down a SAM or Sentry, its only a matter of seconds before someone takes it down (and yes, Im not placing it in awful positions). Air killstreaks such as helicopters and AC-130's seem to be useless (not that Im earning them) due to the small levels that are filled to the brim with buildings.
- Kill Confirmed is probably my favorite thing to come from this CoD so far. Will probably take over Domination as my favorite game mode since the points for Domination are so bad. I will say one of the first things I would like added is Mercenary Kill Confirmed. Running into groups and clans over and over is already wearing thin.
- RIP MW2 SPAS. The SPAS is absolutely terrible in this.
- A lot of worrying about quickscoping seems to be for nothing 'so far'. Due to the level designs Im guessing, in the games Ive played, Ive yet to be killed by a quickscoper.
- I know this one reeks of scrub whining (which makes sense, I am one and my K/D is like .8 in this game so far), but as smooth as everything here plays, I cant get over the fact that everyone seems to be playing .5-1 second in the future. Everyone isnt that quick.
All in all, Im enjoying it although it probably doesn't sound like it. Kill Confirmed is a great addition, I like the level designs although I think they would work a LOT better in MW1, and I like the weapons. There is stuff that needs fixed and adjusted, but we're still in launch week.
BruiserBear
Banned
Yes, this is most certainly scrub whining. Did you ever think about the fact that the game can't be biased against you? You can't always be on the short end of the stick in regards to this delay you think you're experiencing.TheApatheticOne said:
sweetfish
Gold Member
I'm in love with this game!
The Spec-Ops Survival mode is awesome, sad that it's only a 2 player mode. Maybe future 4 player survival maps as DLC?
Also, so good that they included Gun Game for private matches and that you can customize the weapon progression! Had a couple of really fun games yesterday where we had SMG->Riot Shield->SMG->Riot Shield->SMG->[...] etc, with some sniper as the last weapon.
Is some of GAF's Xbox players interested in some Gun Game's later tonight?
The Spec-Ops Survival mode is awesome, sad that it's only a 2 player mode.
Maybe future 4 player survival maps as DLC?Also, so good that they included Gun Game for private matches and that you can customize the weapon progression! Had a couple of really fun games yesterday where we had SMG->Riot Shield->SMG->Riot Shield->SMG->[...] etc, with some sniper as the last weapon.
Is some of GAF's Xbox players interested in some Gun Game's later tonight?
BruiserBear
Banned
Complaints that the killcam isn't entirely accurate have come around with each new version of the game.DarkFlow83 said:
MarshMellow96
Member
This. And usually you're shooting to the left or right of your opponent.DarkFlow83 said:
I was playing a private match with a few friends last night. Ran towards one with a spas, jumped and shot him. Straightforward, right? He shot me dead and said I didn't even notice him, let alone jump and shoot.
I'm on a decent connection with open NAT. Also wired and a manual IP for my 360. What more can I do? I don't have any problems with any other game - even ones in this series.
TheApatheticOne
Member
HixxSAFC said:
Sweet. Ill have to dig into that. Been such a busy week, havent had much time to play around with everything, just been diving in to get what action I can get. lol
BlueScrote
Member
Mik2121 said:Fixed.
Also, finally got my K
That's what I'm finding. Tuesday night when I played everything was chaotic and I was getting massacred. Yesterday I was starting to recognize what spots are mostly safe to stick around in and where to expect people from coming from. My KDR is far away from 2 at the moment though.
I absolutely love this game. Well...I can't really say much about the SP since I didn't play that much of it but both Spec Ops modes are wonderful and I love pretty much all the changes made to the MP. The maps all seem pretty good so far with a few that really stand out to me. I played Spec Ops and MP for many hours today and I never play games for that long anymore.
RibbedHero
Member
J2d said:More like dog tag ignored. Why risk your life when some low level point hungry schmuck can fetch it for you
Oh so true.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
ughhhh... 30 minutes with the single player. most boring thing all year. so far worse than bf3 campaign.
black ops actually had some cool set pieces, and some good music and references. this was beyond lame.
black ops actually had some cool set pieces, and some good music and references. this was beyond lame.
Maffis said:
This is true, and they did much better with the time and budget for World at War. However, CoD3 wasn't a case of "good design doc, bad execution". Even on paper, it simply wasn't how a sequel to Call of Duty 2 should have ever been made. Poor engine, unexciting locations, bad "cinematic" cutscenes that weren't in CoD1 or CoD2. It was the equivalent of the direct-to-DVD sequel. Money and time would have made it more polished, but CoD3 was always going to be a turd. It wasn't just budget, Treyarch seriously stepped up to the plate for their next two games.
Vigilant Walrus said:
What is this I don't even.
Baakara was one of the best designed FPS missions I've ever played, the remote controlled strafing runs were a nice touch, and the backdrop once you got to the
sandstorm
EDIT: Nevermind, I thought he said "30 minutes left in the single player". Shouldn't have even dignified his "criticism" with a response.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
BruiserBear said:
Which is BS.
Which scenario is more likely.
Some scrub with a .4 KDR and 8% accuracy running around a corner, locating me behind cover, firing once and killing me before I can even pull the trigger.
Or them being around the corner firing at me long before they ever appear on my screen.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I was really giving up on MW3's multiplayer, what with the quick deaths and boring level design, but then yesterday something clicked. I found myself recognizing spots on the map that were OK to hang out in for a while, using my support killstreaks properly, and unlocking some useful perks that fit my playstyle.
And then I played Demolition.
Oh. My. God.
I am never playing anything else ever again. Demolition is just so much damn fun. It's one of those gametypes where you don't care about your K/D ratio because you know rushing/defending a bomb site is going to be a clusterfuck anyway. When you win because you killed a guy a second before he defused your bomb, everything is well with the world. And when you lose because someone called in a stealth airstrike on you as YOU were defusing the bomb, you can't help but say, "Well played, sir."
Ah, I love it. I only wish K/D ratio didn't count for objective-based gametypes. If I keep playing Demolition I doubt I'll be able to pad my K/D ratio very much.
Anyway WHAT the hell is UP with Founder status? I don't have it yet? Am I even going to be able to get it before the 13th??
And then I played Demolition.
Oh. My. God.
I am never playing anything else ever again. Demolition is just so much damn fun. It's one of those gametypes where you don't care about your K/D ratio because you know rushing/defending a bomb site is going to be a clusterfuck anyway. When you win because you killed a guy a second before he defused your bomb, everything is well with the world. And when you lose because someone called in a stealth airstrike on you as YOU were defusing the bomb, you can't help but say, "Well played, sir."
Ah, I love it. I only wish K/D ratio didn't count for objective-based gametypes. If I keep playing Demolition I doubt I'll be able to pad my K/D ratio very much.
Anyway WHAT the hell is UP with Founder status? I don't have it yet? Am I even going to be able to get it before the 13th??
Johnlenham
Member
Just grabbed my copy just now, Havent played my xbox in 3 months thanks to it being locked in a container while I was between homes. Going to be so strange but as an added bonus apparently I booked Friday off age and ages ago thinking that was release day!
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