Mr. Enigma
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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 |OT| Got 99 Problems, But Sales Ain't One.
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
AnEternalEnigma said:
They also extended founder eligibility till the end of the month.
Ah sorry, I was thinking of something different. Yeah, Hazard is such a horrible map though..Kermit The Dog said:
As for the size, I think some of the largest ones are still from MW2.
The problem with the MW3 maps is, rather than being claustrophobic, that they have way too many paths that make it feel like a maze and kills a lot of the strategy the game could have. Then again, most COD players like to just keep running forward and shooting, so I guess it's not that bad for them.
MarshMellow96
Member
And meanwhile in the MW3 thread, people who like the game a little too much have flocked to let everyone know that there are no problems whatsoever and all those problems don't exist because COD is the best.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
It's not about how big they are but more how the designers made it flow and how your line of sight is.Mik2121 said:
Outpost is a terrible map, and completely cluttered.
I'll give you Bakaara. Its cluttered but a bit more open. Its feels like a Mw2 map.
When I complained before, Interchange was the only semi open map I was referring to.
LOL I Haven't played fallen. Looks good though.
Still out of 16 maps you've only named 3 that are normal maps. There aren't really any sniping maps except maybe interchange (I played them all except fallen)
So 2 normal, arguably 1 sniping stage, and 13 close quarter combat stages.
MarshMellow96
Member
Kyoufu said:
Basically what Patz was saying. =/
Shorty11857
Member
I honestly don't mind the smaller maps, never really loved any of the big maps in previous CODs, although I don't think any of the maps compare to the best of MW2 at least not yet
PalaceBrother
Member
Angry Fork said:
Lots of people disagree with you.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Kermit The Dog said:
Well, Im not really saying Treyarch influenced MW3 - especially since IW made Carnival (before BlOPS) and that map is so close to MW3's offerings.
I was just saying I could see why he thought they did.
I hope the next Map Pack will have ONLY big stages (and maybe one rust/nuketown stage)
Liquidsnake
Banned
Probably the worst maps in the entire series.
Mr. B Natural
Member
COD4's maps were comparatively tiny, even compared to MW3, but they wereShorty11857 said:
1. Simple
2. Creative with lots of variety.
3. Not overly cluttered and system demanding (thus the lag was much better)
4. Had simpler killstreaks
5. Had flow - because you can camp out windows if you wanted or hide, but your options were limited. Not every outlet was viable for run and gun. Not every direction was viable for camping. Also, because the maps weren't overly cluttered, you can spot the guy out the window or the guy in the corner a lot easier.
6. It wasn't all Gun on Gun. Nades could destroy you if you were camping with no 50/50 chance about it. Of course, the 3x nades were an oversight and could have been addressed with a simple patch.
7. Walls were thin. Again, if you're hiding, I can kill you without having to address you and hope for the best.
6 and 7 kept people moving while the maps allowed for good line of sight. And thus the game was balanced and yet dynamic, unlike MW3 which is about as dynamic as a dead dog.
But that was a long time ago, when IW was, well IW.
TheApatheticOne
Member
Mr. B Natural said:
This one is a big one. You have MW1 maps and MW2 killstreaks. The levels just dont go well, IMO, with the killstreaks available to you. Makes the maps seem smaller than they are when they are actually very comparable, maybe even bigger, than MW1 maps (from what my memory can recall).
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Gotta love getting losses for getting booted out of games.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Has anyone noticed how ineffective stun grenades are this time around? It seems like you walk slightly slower but you can turn, aim, crouch, go prone, and jump just the same. Its really annoying for me since I have been a huge stun user since mw2.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
RJNavarrete said:
Concussion grenades slow you, flash grenades blind you.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
I know that. I'm just saying that stun grenades aka concussion grenades suck in this game.Alienshogun said:
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Once again my 4 man party is having touble getting into games and even more trouble staying in a game when it finally puts us in one.
Jack Scofield
Member
Isn't there any reason to use grenades in this game instead of Semtex? I haven't played much MP, but I want to know if it's worth my time to use the normal grenades, unlike MW2.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
RJNavarrete said:
They slow the shit out of you, they seem exactly the same to me.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Jack Scofield said:
You can cook a regular grenade and bounce them.
Jack Scofield
Member
Alienshogun said:
You could do that with them in MW2, but Semtex was always the way to go. Why spend tme cooking a grenade when Semtex was already pre-cooked (in a sense)? Dunno if IW somehow nerfed it in MW3, such as by reducing the damage or the distance thrown. Just want to make sure either way.
Mr. B Natural
Member
It has nothing to do with netcode or ping, but it has a lot to do with your experience when it comes to connection. It's the same reason why dedicated servers are better than PvP.soultron said:
The Xbox that renders my game is the same xbox that connects to internet and is constantly relying information to other xboxs around the world. Your connection speed is directly connected to how hard your system is working to keep up with everything else. It all funnels. Nothing is free. Nothing.
Extreme example - your ping to a game is 20, which is great, but your PC runs at 2 frames per second. Your "connection" to the game isn't 20, it's 500+. Your PC has funneled. And the reason why it's 500+ is because your computer, which is clearly really struggling to run the game at all, is still being affected by the ping, which will hamper your experience even more. Your computer is really really working hard to run the game, it can't handle even the small strain of data packets coming in and out from the internet. Like toilet paper being flushed into a toilet that is already plugged.
The inclusion of physics to the game objects hampers your connection. Your xbox has to know that my xbox said that I shot that carton of milk and it went 20 feet and then bounced off the wall and hit the ground. It's just another packet of data that has nothing to do with gameplay that is being sent from one system to the next through the internet. It's a waste of informational relay. It's shrinking the tube. It's funneling.
Theater mode? Not free. It's not affecting your ping as your connection quality is the same, but it is affecting what your connection is doing for you, it is affecting what the xbox is doing for you. It's another + to your "real lag."
Bigger maps, especially when you look out long pathways, slow your game down and slow down your connection. In that case, the rendering is funneling.
Better PCs get equal ping in the same location with the same internet service. The better PC is not funneled. It can handle the packets being thrown at it better and throw packets back faster. It's not netcode, it's not ping, it's processing.
If the game's resolution was higher, not only would you take a framerate hit, but a connection hit. It would be probably miniscule, but it adds up. Thus was the MW2 effect and the BLOPS effect. They didn't make the netcode worse, I would imagine they improved on it, but the the extra strain the xbox and your connection had to run the game made it worse. They forced your xbox to relay more information and run harder in ways that has nothing to do with where you are, where your enemy is and whether your bullets/explosions are making contact. It is in fact, funneling and getting in the way of those things. It's quite small but we all feel it.
In other words, if the Xbox720 comes out and can play this game, you'd probably be impressed by your connection feeling more responsive.
Insane Metal
Member
I'm posting just to highlight how great the OP is. WTF is that? It's a whole new level. Congrats Radec.
Played the game for the first time yesterday, did not come out impressed at all. First thing I noticed was too much brown color in the maps...not a fan of aesthetics on this game.
The weapons, the kill streaks, the audio...they are all so samey. I don't see the point of this game's existence.
Maybe it'll get better with time, I remember being disappointed with BLOPS too...then I played it for one year.
The weapons, the kill streaks, the audio...they are all so samey. I don't see the point of this game's existence.
Maybe it'll get better with time, I remember being disappointed with BLOPS too...then I played it for one year.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Jack Scofield said:
Like I said, you can cook them and bounce them, that allows you to get them where semtex can't.
Also, I don't think you can throw semtex as far.
809,354 players online right now on PS3. Damn! 
The Spetsnaz victory theme is the best in the whole game, IMO.thechemist said:
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Mik2121 said:809,354 players online right now on PS3. Damn!
And it still takes 2 or 3 minutes to find us a match half of which end in the first two minutes.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I'm beginning to see a pattern.
Most of the people complaining (especially about lag) seem to be on the PS3.
I wonder if that's indicative of something.
I'm on the 360 and haven't experienced a bad game yet. (lag wise)
Most of the people complaining (especially about lag) seem to be on the PS3.
I wonder if that's indicative of something.
I'm on the 360 and haven't experienced a bad game yet. (lag wise)
Really? I'm in Japan where the game isn't even on sale yet (only the people that imported it) and I always find a room within 30 seconds, always people from either Japan or Korea.Brian Fellows said:
on the main menu, when you press 'FIND GAME' and shows all the playlists, it shows the total number of players at the bottom.Kyoufu said:
As I said, I'm on the PS3 and I have only had a couple laggy games, but that's because the game's not even on sale here so I ended up matchmaking with some people from the US a couple times. Back when I was playing Black Ops, from day 1 all the way up to three days ago, I pretty much never had any lag problem... :/Alienshogun said: