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[Respawn]

This is the first COD where I've gone into multiplayer before beating the campaign. After the first mission I got bored and jumped online...not a good sign.

The multiplayer maps are the worst in the series, everything feels cramped and there are way too many places to hide. Kill confirmed is a great mode but I wish they would bring back gun game and one in the chamber from BLOPS.

To me the damage seems to be too high, if an enemy spots you first you have absolutely no chance at fighting back because your health is so low which is frustrating. The shotgun range still needs to be nerfed and grenade damage needs to come back up.

As for guns, I dabbled with the AR's and sniper rifles before settling on the UMP45. In the right hands it is one beast of a gun. Haven't run into any problems with the Type 95.

So many complaints. I'm ranked about 48,000 in the world[PS3]. Use your wits and skills. Check your corners and windows don't just run around blindly. Get into the habit of doing that and it becomes second nature. Flash bomb rooms before proceeding. Grenade them when detected. Use perks wisely. Specialist can be your best friend. Also Trophy system when playing domination is massive. When you see that pred missile symbol pop up when you're capturing a flag unfold the damn thing. In fact don't wait just unfold it when capturing. A silenced weapon tells no one but your enemy who you are. Like Drake says 'Thank me later'

 

[Mr. Enigma]

This game still didn't address headglitching, where all you see is the top of a person's head yet somehow they shoot you.

 

[vatstep]

The problem with the maps isn't necessarily that they are small, but that they are CLUTTERED.

There is crap EVERYWHERE. Blown up cars, buses, buildings, boxes, etc. So many places to hide. So many places for people to camp and stay hidden when they shoot, making it impossible to fire back, even if you spot them first.

I think there are ways to deal with it, like knowing where those hotspots are for people to hide and camp, but even then there are a ton of deaths that come from people firing from positions that make them practically invisible.

I think Resistance is the worst offender in this respect. Something about the colors of that map, with all of the fences, tables/chairs and crap all around... I can't fucking see who the hell is shooting at me half the time.

 

[GQman2121]

The problem with the maps isn't necessarily that they are small, but that they are CLUTTERED.

There is crap EVERYWHERE. Blown up cars, buses, buildings, boxes, etc. So many places to hide. So many places for people to camp and stay hidden when they shoot, making it impossible to fire back, even if you spot them first.

I think there are ways to deal with it, like knowing where those hotspots are for people to hide and camp, but even then there are a ton of deaths that come from people firing from positions that make them practically invisible.

I have a bigger problem with areas that are seemingly blocked off by invisible walls or objects that I think I should be able to climb up on being inaccessible.

 

[BruiserBear]

I didn't prestige in BLOPS, and I'm thinking of not doing it this time, either. There's an even greater disparity between levels in MW3, and it makes a big difference in how well you do. Bigger than before.

haha

Thanks for confirming what I always suspected about people who don't prestige. They're afraid. Afraid they won't have their security banket gun, etc.

IMO, it shouldn't even be an option whether you prestige. Man up and deal with starting over. I genuinely don't believe I'm at a disadvantage from rank 1. I just have to employ different tactics.

 

[CartridgeBlower]

haha

Thanks for confirming what I always suspected about people who don't prestige. They're afraid. Afraid they won't have their security banket gun, etc.

IMO, it shouldn't even be an option whether you prestige. Man up and deal with starting over. I genuinely don't believe I'm at a disadvantage from rank 1. I just have to employ different tactics.

Wow...

 

[TestOfTide]

I think Resistance is the worst offender in this respect. Something about the colors of that map, with all of the fences, tables/chairs and crap all around... I can't fucking see who the hell is shooting at me half the time.

Resistance is just a shitty map in general. the way it is setup it just encourages people to camp in the corners of the map.

I prefer Underground, Bootleg, Seatown (even with the crappy house in the corner), and Hardhat.

This game still didn't address headglitching, where all you see is the top of a person's head yet somehow they shoot you.

That's not a glitch, that's just how the perspective and gunplay works because the tip of the sight is always where the bullets land. They would have to change that mechanic to make the head not count at someone who can see (and therefor can shoot) you.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

This shit is hilarious.

I play better solo than with the people I know and am friends with that I know aren't good.

This has always been me. If I play with friends I think I get distracted or something.

 

[Madtown_]

So, beat the campaign last night on Veteran..

It's really easy until the last two levels. Or even the last half of the last one.

Spoiler

I was saddened by the loss of Soap..He was a just an awesome guy, I was hoping he could become IW's new Price if they go into the future, but now we'll have a magical 90 year old warrior Cpt. Price.. if there is a future game.

I also thought it was interesting to see how much Price loved Soap. He refused to leave him behind; seemed so fatherly. That was the highlight of the campaign for me.

Well, along with seeing the building from CoD4 Pipeline in the early portions of it. That was awesome nostalgia.

 

[Kyoufu]

The flashback to MW2's

Spoiler

No Russian

from Yuri's eyes was fucking awesome.

 

[Madtown_]

The flashback to MW2's

Spoiler

No Russian

from Yuri's eyes was fucking awesome.

I liked all of the flashbacks for the most part. My favorite was

Spoiler

Flashing back to the sniper shot on Zakhaev in Pripyat from Makarov and Yuri's POV.

 

[The_Player]

So, beat the campaign last night on Veteran..

It's really easy until the last two levels. Or even the last half of the last one.

Spoiler

I was saddened by the loss of Soap..He was a just an awesome guy, I was hoping he could become IW's new Price if they go into the future, but now we'll have a magical 90 year old warrior Cpt. Price.. if there is a future game.

I also thought it was interesting to see how much Price loved Soap. He refused to leave him behind; seemed so fatherly. That was the highlight of the campaign for me.

Well, along with seeing the building from CoD4 Pipeline in the early portions of it. That was awesome nostalgia.

Well said, yes.

Spoiler

Almost cried on his death. And on the Sandman's

.

 

[ThirstyFly]

haha

Thanks for confirming what I always suspected about people who don't prestige. They're afraid. Afraid they won't have their security banket gun, etc.

IMO, it shouldn't even be an option whether you prestige. Man up and deal with starting over. I genuinely don't believe I'm at a disadvantage from rank 1. I just have to employ different tactics.

God, get over yourself man. Maybe some of us just find it a complete waste of time.

 

[Big Papa Husker]

I just beat it about an hour ago. Pretty good story. I loved the flashbacks.

Spoiler

Now that Makarov is dead, what will the next Modern Warfare be about? Or are they don't with the Modern Warfare name? I agree with you guys, Soap and Sandman dying was sad.

 

[Riposte]

Well said, yes.

Spoiler

Almost cried on his death. And on the Sandman's

.

Spoiler

Found Sandman and co to be kind of corny. Soap's was handled well. Where is the Delta protagonist? Don't tell me he was one the guys who died on the elevators lol.

Flashbacks might have been one of the coolest moments of the CoD series.

 

[TacticalFox88]

I just beat it about an hour ago. Pretty good story. I loved the flashbacks.

Spoiler

Now that Makarov is dead, what will the next Modern Warfare be about? Or are they don't with the Modern Warfare name? I agree with you guys, Soap and Sandman dying was sad.

Spoiler

There won't be another Modern Warfare. World War III is over, Makorav is dead, and Price is the only character alive that still matters. In all likelyhood they are working Future Warfare for next gen.

 

[tsigo]

The problem with the maps isn't necessarily that they are small, but that they are CLUTTERED.

There is crap EVERYWHERE. Blown up cars, buses, buildings, boxes, etc. So many places to hide. So many places for people to camp and stay hidden when they shoot, making it impossible to fire back, even if you spot them first.

I think there are ways to deal with it, like knowing where those hotspots are for people to hide and camp, but even then there are a ton of deaths that come from people firing from positions that make them practically invisible.

And can we talk about how stupid it is that there are certain cars that are just always on fire? In previous games, a burning car was a universal sign for "get the fuck away", but nope, now there are some that will just burn forever.

 

[jadedm17]

haha

Thanks for confirming what I always suspected about people who don't prestige. They're afraid. Afraid they won't have their security banket gun, etc.

IMO, it shouldn't even be an option whether you prestige. Man up and deal with starting over. I genuinely don't believe I'm at a disadvantage from rank 1. I just have to employ different tactics.

Afraid or enjoy playing the game better with a better weapon and better perks? Its a fact the higher your level the better your gun, perks, etc. Factually speaking I could go on rampages in Black Ops with a G11 and Ghost Pro but had to fight harder with a Galil and other stuff under level 27 every time I prestiged. Factually speaking helicopters were deadly and everyone knew where I was at lower ranks, whereas higher they were minimal effort and I only let who I want know where I was.

Your choice is to prestige for a pretty symbol, mine is to keep the guns I enjoy playing with more and destroy more people with - who are you to judge me if I'm not judging you?

Note : Never prestiged in MW2 but played enough to do so atleast 4 times, made it to 7th Prestige in Black Ops, and probably won't prestige in MW3.

 

[RibbedHero]

Afraid or enjoy playing the game better with a better weapon and better perks? Its a fact the higher your level the better your gun, perks, etc. Factually speaking I could go on rampages in Black Ops with a G11 and Ghost Pro but had to fight harder with a Galil and other stuff under level 27 every time I prestiged. Factually speaking helicopters were deadly and everyone knew where I was at lower ranks, whereas higher they were minimal effort and I only let who I want know where I was.

Your choice is to prestige for a pretty symbol, mine is to keep the guns I enjoy playing with more and destroy more people with - who are you to judge me if I'm not judging you?

Note : Never prestiged in MW2 but played enough to do so atleast 4 times, made it to 7th Prestige in Black Ops, and probably won't prestige in MW3.

Exactly my opinion. Thanks for saving me the effort buddy.

 

[eek5]

My biggest gripe right now is that the stupid tarps hanging on fences make noises that sound just like footsteps. wtf man

 

[tsigo]

My biggest gripe right now is that the stupid tarps hanging on fences make noises that sound just like footsteps. wtf man

This. Seriously, what the fuck.

 

[BruiserBear]

Afraid or enjoy playing the game better with a better weapon and better perks? Its a fact the higher your level the better your gun, perks, etc. Factually speaking I could go on rampages in Black Ops with a G11 and Ghost Pro but had to fight harder with a Galil and other stuff under level 27 every time I prestiged. Factually speaking helicopters were deadly and everyone knew where I was at lower ranks, whereas higher they were minimal effort and I only let who I want know where I was.

Your choice is to prestige for a pretty symbol, mine is to keep the guns I enjoy playing with more and destroy more people with - who are you to judge me if I'm not judging you?

Note : Never prestiged in MW2 but played enough to do so atleast 4 times, made it to 7th Prestige in Black Ops, and probably won't prestige in MW3.

Judging you? We're talking about a videogame man, not your sexual orientation.

It's nothing personal, but I think it's undeniable that there is a level of fear involved with not prestiging. As you said, fearing helicopters, etc. I just think the game should force it on people. It makes you a better player for it, as you're forced to change things up when you no longer have your standby guns and perks. You learn how to get by without them. I would even suggest that this game more than any other allows you to compete at the lower levels. The starting guns are very good, as they have been in all of the Infinity Ward made games.

 

[jadedm17]

Exactly my opinion. Thanks for saving me the effort buddy.

I'm not your buddy, guy.

My biggest gripe right now is that the stupid tarps hanging on fences make noises that sound just like footsteps. wtf man

Cars that are always smoking, inability to see who collected how many tags in KC, this.... This game has a lot of glaring, small, immensely annoying issues.

It's nothing personal, but I think it's undeniable that there is a level of fear involved with not prestiging. As you said, fearing helicopters, etc. I just think the game should force it on people. It makes you a better player for it, as you're forced to change things up when you no longer have your standby guns and perks.

No red dot sights, perks to stay hidden, weapons to fight air support... I earned it, why should it force me to lose it all over? It doesn't force you to prestige, thats your choice - are you saying I should constantly be on your level because you feel like prestiging even though I don't?

As for better players, yea we should always be trying different tactics, but I want the gun that fires two guided rockets at helicopters, not one. I want the SMG with Rapid Fire. I want my red dot sights.

 

[snack]

My biggest gripe right now is that the stupid tarps hanging on fences make noises that sound just like footsteps. wtf man

Grenades bounce off them too if I recall correctly.

 

[Brian Fellows]

My biggest gripe right now is that the stupid tarps hanging on fences make noises that sound just like footsteps. wtf man

Yeah I hate that too.

 

[rocksteady1983]

The audio seemed kinda crappy playing today randomly. Sounded real "tinny" so to speak. Anyone else have this happen?

 

[The_Player]

I'm not your buddy, guy.

Why so mad? He just thanked you. Chill, bro.

 

[jadedm17]

Why so mad? He just thanked you. Chill, bro.

I'd link to a South Park clip on Youtube but something about copyright issues and my laziness to search SouthPark.com and yadda yadda yadda...

No harm meant. By anything I say. Ever. Promise.

 

[Jack Scofield]

I liked all of the flashbacks for the most part. My favorite was

Spoiler

Flashing back to the sniper shot on Zakhaev in Pripyat from Makarov and Yuri's POV.

That part was neat to see, but it completely conflicted with how the event played out in COD4.

Spoiler

In that game, Zakhaev collapsed into a pool of blood after being shot, which is why Price believes him to have been killed. In MW3, though, Zakhaev immediately jumps into a waiting car, seemingly none the wiser to having lost an entire arm.

 

[The_Player]

Spoiler

Where is the Delta protagonist? Don't tell me he was one the guys who died on the elevators lol.

Spoiler

I was confused on this just as well. But no, Frost is not the one who died on the elevator. Probably MIA or left in HQ/Hospital.

 

[Morn]

Wish I could get a refund on the PC version. Unplayable mess thanks to all the hacks.

 

[The_Player]

Wish I could get a refund on the PC version. Unplayable mess thanks to all the hacks.

Yeah. Person who decided to make dedics to be unranked only is bloody retarded. P2P is such a pain in the ass.

 

[ultron87]

Spoiler

SOAP!!!!! Those flashbacks were awesome though.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

haha

Thanks for confirming what I always suspected about people who don't prestige. They're afraid. Afraid they won't have their security banket gun, etc.

IMO, it shouldn't even be an option whether you prestige. Man up and deal with starting over. I genuinely don't believe I'm at a disadvantage from rank 1. I just have to employ different tactics.

Never before has the internet seen such bravado and courage. And (dare I say) never again shall we witness it. Thank you for gracing us with your presence. /salute

 

[Dance Inferno]

I'm not your buddy, guy.

I'm not your guy, friend.

 

[Brian Fellows]

Clan system is up on Elite boys.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Clan system is up on Elite boys.

Oh shit, so are the groups.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Added NeoGAF as a group.

https://elite.callofduty.com/connect/group/view/18904

That should go there.

Edit: Can't make clan yet still bugged.

 

[Forsaken82]

Your choice is to prestige for a pretty symbol, mine is to keep the guns I enjoy playing with more and destroy more people with - who are you to judge me if I'm not judging you?

That is why you think people prestige? Does anyone in this thread prestige for this reason? have you seen the shitty designs in MW3?

 

[Freezie KO]

Completely agree with the clutter in the maps.

And unless you're prestiging for extra class slots, I can't imagine why you'd do it. For a title or emblems? I'd rather have options to play with rather than play dress up.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Dome <3 <3 <3 So fucking good.

 

[Brian Fellows]

With prestige tokens I see no reason no to prestige.

I'll be carrying over the G36c, Stingers,and betties for sure. And if you can unlock perks Assassin and Scavenger. Should make things a lot easier.

Dome <3 <3 <3 So fucking good.

I don't mind it. Its a very easy map to camp.

 

[Riposte]

Oh there was something super awesome about the flashback I just remembered.

Spoiler

You can see the protagonist of No Russian(forget his name) staying behind the pack and not shooting. This is what I assumed most players did on their first playthrough, at least it is what I hear.

 

[BiggStankDogg]

Judging you? We're talking about a videogame man, not your sexual orientation.

It's nothing personal, but I think it's undeniable that there is a level of fear involved with not prestiging. As you said, fearing helicopters, etc. I just think the game should force it on people. It makes you a better player for it, as you're forced to change things up when you no longer have your standby guns and perks. You learn how to get by without them. I would even suggest that this game more than any other allows you to compete at the lower levels. The starting guns are very good, as they have been in all of the Infinity Ward made games.

Are you saying you would judge someone's sexual orientation? Or maybe for some the allure of a game should be it's compelling gameplay and options, not just the carrot/stick routine. But hey, enjoy the treadmill and sparkly symbol. That's what matters most!

 

[snack]

Added NeoGAF as a group.

https://elite.callofduty.com/connect/group/view/18904

That should go there.

Edit: Can't make clan yet still bugged.

Joined!

 

[computers putin']

Judging you? We're talking about a videogame man, not your sexual orientation.

It's nothing personal, but I think it's undeniable that there is a level of fear involved with not prestiging. As you said, fearing helicopters, etc. I just think the game should force it on people. It makes you a better player for it, as you're forced to change things up when you no longer have your standby guns and perks. You learn how to get by without them. I would even suggest that this game more than any other allows you to compete at the lower levels. The starting guns are very good, as they have been in all of the Infinity Ward made games.

Not for me. It's more like I don't feel like going through the effort of unlocking pro perks and weapons all over again and I think unlocks are a stupid idea; Everyone should get everything at once, no unlocks.

with that said, I might prestige lol. I haven't checked, but you're supposed to actually get something for prestiging this time around. I prestiged in MW2 and realized it was pointless after a while and stopped, and in Black ops the grinding for stuff was absurd, it was damn near RPG type grinding, so I didn't there.

 

[Xamdou]

Is the create a clan feature working in cod elite yet?

 

[snack]

Is the create a clan feature working in cod elite yet?

Nope. It's still wonky.

 

[Nelo Ice]

Wish I could get a refund on the PC version. Unplayable mess thanks to all the hacks.

I've surprisingly only run into 1 blatant aimbot hacker so far but yeah if only we had dedicated servers. Also I really need to pick up the 360 version since everyone else I kno is on 360 =(.

 

[BruiserBear]

Are you saying you would judge someone's sexual orientation? Or maybe for some the allure of a game should be it's compelling gameplay and options, not just the carrot/stick routine. But hey, enjoy the treadmill and sparkly symbol. That's what matters most!

No, I'm not saying that, but nice try at stirring up some drama. He was complaining that I judged him regarding his decisions in this game, as if this is a serious discussion. So I pointed that out by siting something that would be serious.

FYI, I have never prestiged for the symbol change. For me it's just always felt like the way the game was designed to be played. Also, as I said earlier, I don't feel like I'm really at a disadvantage starting over. I just change up my tactics and begin to rethink how I play again, since initially your options are more limited.