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[Niblet]

Cool story, bro!

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[BiggStankDogg]

No, I'm not saying that, but nice try at stirring up some drama. He was complaining that I judged him regarding his decisions in this game, as if this is a serious discussion. So I pointed that out by siting something that would be serious.

FYI, I have never prestiged for the symbol change. For me it's just always felt like the way the game was designed to be played. Also, as I said earlier, I don't feel like I'm really at a disadvantage starting over. I just change up my tactics and begin to rethink how I play again, since initially your options are more limited.

No, I just thought that was a weird comment for a video game discussion, that's all. And if your point is that you like changing up your tactics, maybe limiting your options is not the best way to do it.

 

[The Antitype]

I'd like the password please.

The one that makes the dozens of bullets I pour into people actually deal damage.

You know, like their bullets deal to me, in half as much time.

Thank you!

 

[BruiserBear]

No, I just thought that was a weird comment for a video game discussion, that's all. And if your point is that you like changing up your tactics, maybe limiting your options is not the best way to do it.

Well, I thought complaining about being "judged" was a weird comment in a COD discussion.

With regards to "changing up tactics". I think most people fall into patterns and habits, so by losing all the later unlocks for a while, I'm forced to change how I was playing for those previous 20 hours. Now I'm back to the basics, and reacquainting myself with the core skills.

 

[foomfoom415]

I've surprisingly only run into 1 blatant aimbot hacker so far but yeah if only we had dedicated servers. Also I really need to pick up the 360 version since everyone else I kno is on 360 =(.

There are dedicated servers. Enable the server browser in the options.

Beware. Crouch-only/no run servers by the boatload.

 

[Nelo Ice]

There are dedicated servers. Enable the server browser in the options.

Beware. Crouch-only/no run servers by the boatload.

I know that but I'm talking about ranked where there's likely to be a ton of hackers cuz its all p2p for some stupid reaosn.

 

[Forsaken82]

Not for me. It's more like I don't feel like going through the effort of unlocking pro perks and weapons all over again and I think unlocks are a stupid idea; Everyone should get everything at once, no unlocks.

Let me play Miss Cleo here for a second...

You are an old school FPS gamer that was pretty decent. Likely dominated because you had a strong knowledge of the levels and weapon layouts and games like MW come around and you no longer dominate because knowing where the power weapons are no longer matter... instead you have to work to unlock them. Am I in the ball park?

 

[The Antitype]

Let me play Miss Cleo here for a second...

You are an old school FPS gamer that was pretty decent. Likely dominated because you had a strong knowledge of the levels and weapon layouts and games like MW come around and you no longer dominate because knowing where the power weapons are no longer matter... instead you have to work to unlock them. Am I in the ball park?

You're absolutely right. The game IS brainless.

There isn't a modicum of skill, since killing people just results in them getting spawned behind you for some easy behind the back kills.

You just run a nascar route through the map, kill everybody you see, unless they see you first and kill you. Cause really, whoever sees the guy first and has the better connection wins. Period.

 

[Scarecrow]

Sounds like someone had a bad day.

 

[Everdred]

The guy is right. I'm currently sitting around 1.8 ratio and my strategy for every map is sprinting around with my Type93/MP9 as fast as I can shooting whoever I see. Normally if I see them first I kill them. This game is a racing game with guns for me. While I do enjoy it, it's very mindless compared to other shooters.

 

[The Antitype]

Sounds like someone had a bad day.

*shrugs*

Not really. 1.4 K/D about average for me in this game.

But to suggest that the game is somehow more skillful because of how players can start the game with different weapon loadouts is asinine.

To say nothing of the bad netcode, amateur hour map design, and non-existent weapon or killstreak balance.

 

[adelante]

I liked all of the flashbacks for the most part. My favorite was

Spoiler

Flashing back to the sniper shot on Zakhaev in Pripyat from Makarov and Yuri's POV.

I thought it was a nice touch being able to see

Spoiler

a pair of scope lens flashes from a distant building, the one you and Mac presumably sniped Zakhaev from

 

[Freezie KO]

I'm fine with high damage, but the problem is that the maps are total garbage. While the emphasis on seeing someone first should increase strategy and situational awareness, the maps are set up like tiny rat mazes.

And all the clutter means that if you see someone running from far away, you're not going to kill them first. Only if you're up close and spraying. I don't mind the high damage, but the maps are terribly suited to make that type of gameplay strategic.

As for unlocking, I do like setting loadouts and not searching for weapons scattered. The problem is that unlocking gives bonuses to the players that are (1) already better at the game due to map knowledge and practice and (2) not necessarily better but have more free time to waste. Keeping everything unlocked ensures experimentation, due to having more options to try, as well as balanced competition.

The unlocking system as it is only benefits people who put more time into the game and people who like filling bars. For the record, I have all the pro perks and weapons unlocked, and I wouldn't prestige. Well, maybe I'll prestige once just before trading in the game due to the garbage maps.

 

[ZZMitch]

*shrugs*
To say nothing of the bad netcode, amateur hour map design, and non-existent weapon or killstreak balance.

I haven't had a problem with any of these things, this is far and away the best CoD since 4 in my opinion. Having a blast at the moment.

 

[jet1911]

Just finished the story. Really good closure to the trilogy.

Spoiler

Soap

 

[The Antitype]

I haven't had a problem with any of these things, this is far and away the best CoD since 4 in my opinion. Having a blast at the moment.

I have spawned 10 feet away from enemies, and had enemies spawn 10 feet behind me. It is hilariously poor. Just absolute trash.

The maps are too small. As somebody riffed on my comment, the game is basically a racing game with guns now. Everybody uses stealth perks because in previous maps, even if you showed up on radar, you had a few seconds to move around before the closest guy got to you.

You've had no problem with the netcode? You've never been killed, watched the kill cam, and seen a completely different sequence of events than what transpired. Or been killed by a shot well after you were fully behind cover? Or poured bullets into a guy, only to be killed with a single shot? Well you're literally the only person on the internet.

 

[Nori Chan]

The former seemed to try too forced and the latter had no impact on me, personally.

You have no heart.

 

[unomas]

*shrugs*

Not really. 1.4 K/D about average for me in this game.

But to suggest that the game is somehow more skillful because of how players can start the game with different weapon loadouts is asinine.

To say nothing of the bad netcode, amateur hour map design, and non-existent weapon or killstreak balance.

Agreed, a completely mindless shooter where who sees who is key along with connection speed and perks/weapons. I unlocked the PP90 last night, and my K/D went up significantly as you also unlock assassin at level 27 as well. My style went from stay back and be patient to sprint through the map and see a guy before he sees me, hit em with my PP90 silenced first get the kill and keep on running. Any semblance of strategy has been replaced by brainless ADD gameplay. Fix the spawns, give more damage, and close off some of these maze like maps and make them longer and wider. Sales wise the game has done great, but there is a huge amount of backlash from people actually playing online.

If I didn't have assassin and my PP90 I'd still be struggling. It's laughable when you spawn in free for all and you literally have someone shooting at you within a .10 of a second of spawning without moving. That's happened to me quite a bit, the spawns are poor at best.

I did however enjoy the single player quite a bit, and spec ops and survival are good as well.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

This game will be glorious when they release some DLC with actual good maps from past games. These maps blow imho, mostly because of the spawns. I play a lot of Demolition and wtf.. you and the enemy spawn fucking anywhere on the map sometimes. It makes no sense.

I have to applaud IW though for keeping MW2's insane streak rewards and even adding more and even different tiers of them yet making it all very balanced. MW2 Demolition was just a clusterfuck of choppers and harriers and emergency air drops and predators. In this one it seems people rarely do any real damage with anything. I do wish advanced UAV's were not so easy to take down though. They take 12 points to get yet one stinger takes them out.

 

[demolitio]

And another COD game where hackers roam free and we can't do shit about it. This is exactly the reason why dedicated servers have been wanted so admins can actually police servers. That and the fact that even though thousands are playing the same playlist, the game always decides to put you in a room with a host on the other side of the world. The one game actually had us laughing as we all said where we were from and it ranged from the U.S. to Germany, Japan, a few South American countries, etc. I guess they wanted the MP to feel like WWIII as well with every nation participating...lol

 

[aku:jiki]

I have to applaud IW though for keeping MW2's insane streak rewards and even adding more and even different tiers of them yet making it all very balanced. MW2 Demolition was just a clusterfuck of choppers and harriers and emergency air drops and predators. In this one it seems people rarely do any real damage with anything. I do wish advanced UAV's were not so easy to take down though. They take 12 points to get yet one stinger takes them out.

Taking down a UAV is harder than taking down a bloody Osprey Gunner! The houses and mountains and shit all block the tiny UAV so you can never find it... Still think there's a massive imbalance there. Some streaks are way too easy to earn (EMP comes to mind), some way too hard and most are far too easy to counter. (EMP? Just put on Assassin Pro.)

Pretty much the only satisfying killstreak left in the game is the MOAB and I keep getting killed at like 22.

 

[ZZMitch]

I have spawned 10 feet away from enemies, and had enemies spawn 10 feet behind me. It is hilariously poor. Just absolute trash.

The maps are too small. As somebody riffed on my comment, the game is basically a racing game with guns now. Everybody uses stealth perks because in previous maps, even if you showed up on radar, you had a few seconds to move around before the closest guy got to you.

You've had no problem with the netcode? You've never been killed, watched the kill cam, and seen a completely different sequence of events than what transpired. Or been killed by a shot well after you were fully behind cover? Or poured bullets into a guy, only to be killed with a single shot? Well you're literally the only person on the internet.

I have had some bad spawns, but no more than any other CoD game, and certainly not enough to make me angry or anything. I also usually play Search and Destroy which makes spawn issues null and void for me.

I enjoy the small size of the maps because, like you said, I do (and always have) use silenced SMGs/AR in CoD. Except for when I pull out the LMG and spray bullets everywhere
I almost feel like the maps were made with search and destroy in mind, and I can see why they might be considered small for gametypes with constant spawning.

And I really don't put much credence into what is shown on the killcams because they never really represent what actually happened. The other things I haven't really noticed because they either haven't happened to me enough for me to remember, are the result of the way I play or the fact I play SnD which means interactions between players are different. Most of the times I die I never really get off a shot and most of the times I get a kill the enemy never really gets off a shot... I dunno. Maybe I just don't notice the issues as much but I can't deny that I am having a lot of fun with the game.

 

[Mik2121]

I have spawned 10 feet away from enemies, and had enemies spawn 10 feet behind me. It is hilariously poor. Just absolute trash.

The maps are too small. As somebody riffed on my comment, the game is basically a racing game with guns now. Everybody uses stealth perks because in previous maps, even if you showed up on radar, you had a few seconds to move around before the closest guy got to you.

You've had no problem with the netcode? You've never been killed, watched the kill cam, and seen a completely different sequence of events than what transpired. Or been killed by a shot well after you were fully behind cover? Or poured bullets into a guy, only to be killed with a single shot? Well you're literally the only person on the internet.

You've been repeating the same stuff since yesterday and that's all you've been posting here. Just because you repeat it, it's not going to get magically fixed.

If you hate it so much, why don't you go and play other games?

 

[Kyoufu]

I've had bad spawns but they don't happen often enough for me to get mad.

Only P2P lag makes me mad.

 

[Freezie KO]

It's not just spawning either. Since there are 5 paths leading to any spot and very little strategic value to any location, the minute you kill someone you're bound to be stunned and then killed. I've never played a CoD where I've been consistently killed so soon after earning a kill so often.

 

[Mik2121]

I've had bad spawns but they don't happen often enough for me to get mad.

Only P2P lag makes me mad.

Pretty much.

I've played some 18 hours already and I can only remember two or three times where an enemy spawned right behind me or something similar to that.

And in those cases I was on the other side of the map from where my teammates were, so I guess that was the 'best' place for them to spawn. But to say the spawn is shit is kinda too much. Hell, in the Halo games I've had people spawn right next to me, and kill me because they're invincible... and yet you don't see tons of people going to the Halo thread and cry about it.

 

[jadedm17]

You're absolutely right. The game IS brainless.

There isn't a modicum of skill, since killing people just results in them getting spawned behind you for some easy behind the back kills.

You just run a nascar route through the map, kill everybody you see, unless they see you first and kill you. Cause really, whoever sees the guy first and has the better connection wins. Period.

Very well put. This is why I prefer Halo and Gears of War. Sadly enough my roommates, friends, and random dudes at work don't dedicate as much time as me at absolutely destroying people tactically in first and third person shooters and more prefer buying Call of Duty and getting those occasional kills because the whole thing is a disorganized mess. So here I am.

Or maybe I'm just bitter because every game I'm in I lose no matter how well I do because someone on my team is going -14.

On a related note : If you're playing and want a good teammate on XBL, please add me. eightyeightMPH

I've had bad spawns but they don't happen often enough for me to get mad.

As I've become more acquainted with the maps I find this to be true more as I go, but I'll never stop being bitter at my spawn a few days ago with 2 teammates where we hit the ground running to make it ten feet and be picked off by a sniper with acog at 9 o'clock. True story. He was to our left, all 3 of us took a few steps forward and he picked us all off. The best part was watching his killcam where you could see us spawning.

 

[AbsurdG3nius]

The problem with the maps isn't necessarily that they are small, but that they are CLUTTERED.

There is crap EVERYWHERE. Blown up cars, buses, buildings, boxes, etc. So many places to hide. So many places for people to camp and stay hidden when they shoot, making it impossible to fire back, even if you spot them first.

I think there are ways to deal with it, like knowing where those hotspots are for people to hide and camp, but even then there are a ton of deaths that come from people firing from positions that make them practically invisible.

The clutter is a huge deal, but I'm having a more difficult time discerning the other team from the background itself - almost like there's a lack of depth between the two. I'm only about 8 hours into MP, but hour one coming right out of BLOPS it was almost impossible to pick up the enemy from the environment, cluttered or not. I ended up turning up the brightness in the display settings to compensate a bit, but it still feels like the character models don't "pop" as well as in past games in the series...

...or maybe this modern camouflage is just THAT good.

 

[sleepykyo]

You learn how to get by without them. I would even suggest that this game more than any other allows you to compete at the lower levels. The starting guns are very good, as they have been in all of the Infinity Ward made games.

MGO? Yes, there is some leveling system in the perks just like COD. But all weapons and gears were available at the start assuming you scored enough points. Ditto for Reistance 1 and Halo. The low level penalty might not be as large as other CODs, but preMW, there wasn't one at all.

 

[ZZMitch]

The clutter is a huge deal, but I'm having a more difficult time discerning the other team from the background itself - almost like there's a lack of depth between the two. I'm only about 8 hours into MP, but hour one coming right out of BLOPS it was almost impossible to pick up the enemy from the environment, cluttered or not. I ended up turning up the brightness in the display settings to compensate a bit, but it still feels like the character models don't "pop" as well as in past games in the series...

...or maybe this modern camouflage is just THAT good.

Marksman. Use it. Love it.

 

[Archer]

just beat single player.

Spoiler

:lol at the dubai hotel level. loved playing as the juggernaut.

 

[SmokeMaxX]

You learn how to get by without them. I would even suggest that this game more than any other allows you to compete at the lower levels. The starting guns are very good, as they have been in all of the Infinity Ward made games.

Ha. Play S&D and tell me that. They call in a UAV and you're screwed. You can't hide because you don't get Assassin until lvl 27. You can't run (or even crouch walk away) because you don't get Dead Silence until like lvl 55. Oh and crouch walking EVEN WHILE AIMING makes noise. I hate it but if I know the enemy's close, I have to just sit in a corner and wait or else anybody with any sort of headset will know EXACTLY where I'm at.

If you have a prestige token (or a few) use them on Assassin, Dead Silence, and Blind Eye (probably in that order). Otherwise prepare to get absolutely fucked by UAVs, Predators, helis, and people with headsets. I got 22 kills in a row without a headset just because I kept running in the opponent's spawn and I could hear every single one of them running close to me.

 

[rCIZZLE]

Wow, I underestimated the specialist streaks. Ever since I started using them I feel pretty unstoppable. Soon as you get 8 kills you feel like Superman.

 

[Everdred]

Wow, I underestimated the specialist streaks. Ever since I started using them I feel pretty unstoppable. Soon as you get 8 kills you feel like Superman.

This is what I roll with too. Nothing beats that feeling when you get all of them and RAMBO mode kicks in.

 

[theignoramus]

im sure it does for most of the people, but i loved playing black ops on my big screen on the couch with a controller

is there seriously no controller option in the pc version?

for fuck sake

xpadder, motherfucker, use it.

 

[Archer]

really wish keith david was in mw3.

 

[theignoramus]

so cod is running 960×544 on PS3 again?

anyone can confim this?

bwahahahaha, if true.

 

[dark_chris]

Awesome story mode. I loved it and very much enjoyed the ending.
Also, mutliplayer. Not bad. Just wish that quick scoping shit was gone. Seriously. Its stupid and cheating, not a skill of how good you are in the game.

 

[U2NUMB]

Oh, COME ON.
Every single online videogame has a standard deathmatch & TDM of some kind. Can't really call CoD out on it.
At least they have well over a dozen different playlists & more than any other comparable games.

No one seems to be calling out Battlefield, even though they added nothing to the standard Rush/Conquest/TDM over the years or the Crysis 2 MP, which it did nothing over the standard FPS modes.

You miss understood me. I have no issues with the concept of the modes. They just are not fun this time around for me. Not sure if its maps or the weapons but overall this version of COD is not much fun online.

But again.. Kill confirmed is a damn fun mode.

 

[Mik2121]

Ha. Play S&D and tell me that. They call in a UAV and you're screwed. You can't hide because you don't get Assassin until lvl 27. You can't run (or even crouch walk away) because you don't get Dead Silence until like lvl 55. Oh and crouch walking EVEN WHILE AIMING makes noise. I hate it but if I know the enemy's close, I have to just sit in a corner and wait or else anybody with any sort of headset will know EXACTLY where I'm at.

If you have a prestige token (or a few) use them on Assassin, Dead Silence, and Blind Eye (probably in that order). Otherwise prepare to get absolutely fucked by UAVs, Predators, helis, and people with headsets. I got 22 kills in a row without a headset just because I kept running in the opponent's spawn and I could hear every single one of them running close to me.

The bolded can't be possible!. Some people here says the walking sound isn't loud enough. They can't even hear their own steps! Surely someone here is exaggerating.

Same goes for "omg this weapon is overpowered", followed by another guy saying another weapon is. Seriously, talk about exaggerating because you got killed by someone with that weapon, LOL!

Anyway, can't wait for next month when most of the people that come here to cry just leave and let us talk about something other than "omg spawns" and "omg whatever" :/

 

[rCIZZLE]

Any gun in my hands is OP.

 

[aristotle]

Added NeoGAF as a group.

https://elite.callofduty.com/connect/group/view/18904

That should go there.

Edit: Can't make clan yet still bugged.

You're late. I made a neogaf group a few days ago. I even posted it here. Figures it gets lost in all the anger comments.

https://elite.callofduty.com/connect/group/view/1725

In fact, I get a 404 every time I click your link.

 

[filipe]

Something's definitely up with my Xbox/Account.

All night I wasn't able to receive game invites. The odd time I did, only showed up after I shut off my Xbox and turned it back on. By that point, it would just shoot me a standard "Can't join" error reply.

I was able to join my friends in a party and talk and such, but none of them could join my invites (which they received) and I just wasn't getting any. The odd time (while still in the party) that I'd be able to join a game in progress, I'd be on the other time.

Tried recovering, cache clearing, router restarting, Xbox unplugged and everything. I have been able to receive messages in the past and play many games with them, but I just couldn't tonight.

Any ideas guys?

 

[Mik2121]

You're late. I made a neogaf group a few days ago. I even posted it here. Figures it gets lost in all the anger comments.

https://elite.callofduty.com/connect/group/view/1725

In fact, I get a 404 every time I click your link.

Yep, I'm getting a 404 every time I click his link, but yours works flawlessly. I joined the group yesterday, btw!

 

[rCIZZLE]

You're late. I made a neogaf group a few days ago. I even posted it here. Figures it gets lost in all the anger comments.

https://elite.callofduty.com/connect/group/view/1725

In fact, I get a 404 every time I click your link.

If you don't mind me asking is there some fix for the Error 500? I have Elite and shit on my ps3 but I can't access the website.

 

[dmg04]

Trying to create a clan. taking forever and keep getting errors.

 

[The Antitype]

And I really don't put much credence into what is shown on the killcams because they never really represent what actually happened. The other things I haven't really noticed because they either haven't happened to me enough for me to remember, are the result of the way I play or the fact I play SnD which means interactions between players are different. Most of the times I die I never really get off a shot and most of the times I get a kill the enemy never really gets off a shot... I dunno. Maybe I just don't notice the issues as much but I can't deny that I am having a lot of fun with the game.

I vehemently hate this line of logic.

You are glossing over the fact that the game is outright LYING to you. Events either happened as you saw them, or they happened as the kill-cam displayed them.

Either you really DID fill that guy with 10 bullets only for him to kill you with a few of his own, or you really DID not even get your gun up by the time he put 10 shots into you.

There is NO WAY to play a game when what you are seeing and reacting to on screen at any given time isn't reliable. You may as well play the fucking thing blind-folded.

 

[Lionheart1827]

Still cant create my own clan though. Seems like its not registering the creation.

 

[Mik2121]

Trying to create a clan. taking forever and keep getting errors.

I was actually able to create the clan GAF, lol

 

[rCIZZLE]

Alright, I still get Error 500 constantly when trying to log into the elite website so I'm going to try and join the gaf group through the elite app. I searched "neogaf" and found one with 8 members, is this the one that's the generally accepted gaf one?