Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Has anyone played with the 1887's?
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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 |OT| Got 99 Problems, But Sales Ain't One.
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Posting the NeoGAF group URL for the new page. (apparently for 360 users)
https://elite.callofduty.com/connect/group/view/18904
I also tweeted a question regarding platform and groups.
Mik, you're on PS3 with this game? I thought you were on 360.
https://elite.callofduty.com/connect/group/view/18904
I also tweeted a question regarding platform and groups.
Mik, you're on PS3 with this game? I thought you were on 360.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
wrong thread.
BruiserBear
Banned
R2D4 said:
Which version of the game?
Lionheart1827
Member
Foxy Fox 39 said:
Its my main shotgun class. After the beast of the SPAS in MW2 I was looking for a suitable replacement. The 1887 with steady aim is the closest I've gotten to the MW2 spas. I unlocked range proficiency today with it and it seems even better.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
R2D4 said:
Happens to me to on PS3. Especially bad in a firefight. Seems like lag or something, idk. I have lowered my screen resolution to 720p and turned off theater recording and it still happens.
Lionheart1827
Member
Gilatif said:
Someone here said the clan tag icon thing isn't a mod, its just characters can be inputted into the tag and it acts wonky I guess. Haven't tried it myself to confirm though.
EDIT-beaten
So I guess they snuck out a server fix to stop the stupid matchmaking they had going on. We can finally play against some random europeans (seen spaniards, frenchies and germans today alone!) instead of having to play the same 5 swedish teams over and over.
Too bad it's still laggy as shit and worse than Black Ops.
Too bad it's still laggy as shit and worse than Black Ops.
BattleMonkey
Member
So I know no one cares but looking it up and going over it, the story just continues to confound me. Why do
the Russians gas a bunch of innocents and then invade most of Europe? There is no explanation to any of this. The invasion of the US had a really contrived reason behind it in the first place, but after getting their butt kicked out of the US, they go and start randomly invading everyone else? What was the point or goal to any of this? Also Markov's orginization is gigantic apparently, and must have tons of connections to the Russian military and be splinter group of it, but no one bats an eye lash when he was walking around killing people in the airport with no mask on and clearly video taped doing it yet they blame it all on a CIA agent? This huge sect of the Russian military is following a guy who was on TV killing innocent Russian civilians to create a war that served no real purpose or have any actual goal?
left_senseless
Banned
I guess I'm the only one that doesn't have a million complaints about the game. sure, lag exists and is annoying, but it is a huge step up from black ops. and it is no worse than what exists in most online shooters. the problem with lag in this sort of game is how few bullets it takes to kill. if you are lagging hard then dumping a clip with no results when the expectation is quite the opposite, is hella frustrating. when you get hit by a flurry of shots it can feel like they were all one bullet. once you get used to these issues that will always exist then you can build strategies around them. it is a quick twitch shooter. it should be expected as such. I am an AR freak with the call of duty series, except cod2 which rocked with snipers and bolt action rifles, and I have no problem with medium to long range combat on most of the maps. I really like the maps so far. I've got about 12 hours invested now. explosive spam has been toned down. killstreaks have counter measures that are effective. knifing has been tuned a hair. for me mw3 is a huge step up from 2 even if it isn't quite what 1 was. which I haven't decided yet. call of duty 2 is still my favorite because it was more skill and less nonsense but that era of fps' is gone thanks to mw1.
overall I am really enjoying this game. I can't wait to get back to it and that is a first for me with cod since mw1 released. if any gaffers want to play shoot me an invite. I live in midwest america and my psn is agnosticscorpio.
overall I am really enjoying this game. I can't wait to get back to it and that is a first for me with cod since mw1 released. if any gaffers want to play shoot me an invite. I live in midwest america and my psn is agnosticscorpio.
I'm sorry, dude, but I'm getting so fucking sick of these condescending posts. We know how to play online FPS. We're not retarded and we can tell the difference between a lag death and a quick death by a powerful weapon.left_senseless said:
Like someone posted earlier, a quick bursted death (i.e. not a shotgun or a sniper rifle) results in a bunch of "thud" sounds and blood on your screen before you die. Even if it's very fast, it's still there. A lag kill is you just dropping dead with no thuds and no blood.
I don't know how you apologists are unable to tell the difference. When you round a corner and a guy kills you at double lightspeed, do you honestly think that guy is THAT good? Watch your killcams! He isn't!
SlackAdjuster
Member
Nope. I dont have a million complaints either. Maybe a few. I dont like the lack of HC Free For All. What really bothers methe most is: I dont like whenever I'm in a party with my one certain good friend, I do significantly worse than usual, ALL the time. It has to be some sort of host/lag issue, I'm not sure. Because this only happens when he's in the party. Anyone else, or playing by myself with random people: its not an issue. And it really sucks because its fun playing with my best buddy but its not so fun when I'm 7-10 every game.
But overall I'm having a blast with this game. I love Kill Confirmed. I love the Spec Ops (some of these missions are absolute fucking torture on Veteran)
But overall I'm having a blast with this game. I love Kill Confirmed. I love the Spec Ops (some of these missions are absolute fucking torture on Veteran)
TestOfTide
Banned
SpacLock said:
They should at least send gamertag warnings to those using them. Banning because someone made their tag say a five letter word cleverly like sca[RS] isn't fair.
18887 is okay. It is somewhat inconsistent, so you have be good at centering your shots as quickly and accurately as possible, but the 30-20 damage dropoff makes it get a suprising amount of two shot kills at 20 feet, especially with the range proficiency and steady aim.Foxy Fox 39 said:
Personally I prefer the usas for shotguns with good range, though.
BiggStankDogg
Member
Does anyone know the reasoning behind not having Ricochet HC Search back? I play a lot of Hardcore Search and sometimes it just gets bad when you get stuck in a few consecutive rooms with a 13 year old team rocketing you at the beginning of each round. Sure, they get punished by losing a life, but something tells me that at that point, they don't care. There's no real penalty and they don't even get kicked after several team kills. What's up with that? That the most disappointing thing so far...
Kermit The Dog
Banned
aku:jiki said:
Well, you don't, according to your stats.
Let's not pretend that your location has something to do with it. I'm in Australia and the performance has been second to none. Host migration works every time, no lag, zero ghost bullets and almost 100% of the time, 4 green bars. I can't be more complimentary, performance wise.
Those maps though...
Forsaken82
Member
Mik2121 said:
I don't necessarily hate the maps, but my biggest gripe is the fact that it takes me forever to spot air support. It seems like there is always an obstruction somewhere on the map that requires me to go 30 seconds out of my way to find it. Even on Villiage, which seems like a fairly open and non vertically challenged map (minus the caverns of course).
left_senseless
Banned
aku:jiki said:
I don't know if you misread what I wrote or if what I wrote just came off wrong, but nowhere in that post did I say the lag didn't exist. I said it did and it sucks but it is the nature of most online gaming. believe me, I have issues with lag and I rage from it as much as the next hot head, but what can I do about it? internet connections are nowhere near equal. ping is allover the place for any particular gamer, even if your ping is great the ping of the next guy will affect you. they have to upload data before you can receive it. if it is too bad, quit the lobby and join a new one. if you are still striking out, back all the way out and reconnect to the servers.
I am not trying to look down on anyone. my opinion is that this series is great again to me. I had a ton of complaints with 2 and blops. it feels good to have my fix back.
Chittagong
Gold Member
I don't really mind having to unload half a clip into an enemy to make them die. I just pretend it's part of the game, compensate for it and prentend the enemies have to do the same.
BlueScrote
Member
Forsaken82 said:
I've pretty much given up on targetting air support. I spend so much time trying to find the planes I end up getting shot.
I don't think I'v ever even found a UAV in the air either.
left_senseless
Banned
Chittagong said:
I agree with this and is what I was saying. it's an online game. expect lag and incorporate it into your strategies.
LowParry
Member
Eeeah, that Type 95 turns my style of play all reverse. I'm usually on the run and offence but with this weapon, I stay back and watch open areas.
Though from elite videos, it mentions that the M16 is more useful to killing at longer rangers compared to the Type 95. Anyone use the M16 here?
Though from elite videos, it mentions that the M16 is more useful to killing at longer rangers compared to the Type 95. Anyone use the M16 here?
My stats are awful. I have no idea if MW2 was coded better or what, but I do know the different weapon options gave me the ability to use different strategies when my connection failed me.Kermit The Dog said:Well, you don't, according to your stats.
Let's not pretend that your location has something to do with it. I'm in Australia and the performance has been second to none. Host migration works every time, no lag, zero ghost bullets and almost 100% of the time, 4 green bars. I can't be more complimentary, performance wise.
Those maps though...
MW3 offers me less options and too many open areas which prevents me from keeping better connected people at bay. Even if I know they're rounding a corner and I'm watching my screen and I get a full spray in the face before my screen shows it, I'm.. not very useful.. and not having fun either. I can take some losses but 90% of my games are like this.
Since I no longer have MW2, I dunno if I should be directing my frustrations at MW3 or my internet provider, but I KNOW I had very serviceable precision in that game but now I'm getting annihilated constantly. I've gotten All Specialist Bonus at least 50 times, if I had to guess, so id like to say I'm decent, but once I go down the first time I end up going negative for some reason. Spawning into a firefight is so frstrating! I cannot fire back or get into a safe spot once I lose my hold.
Some of it is definitely the spawn system and wide open maps, but the rest I don't know. I know I lose AR to AR constantly and its making me hate the game.
TestOfTide
Banned
I am definitely liking this game a lot and finding it mostly well balanced, but there are still a few things that need fixing:left_senseless said:
-ksg12 needs a substantial buff. I would be more willing to accept it as the more closerange pump-action if it wasn't inconsistent even within 5 feet.
- fmg needs a nerf for akimbo.
- aa-12 needs to start out with more ammo
- knifing needs to be fixed. It feels like the broken knifing black ops had before treyarch patched it
- all shotguns should do 35 damage per pellet minimum at knife lunge range
- lmgs should deal higher ranged damage to make it a viable long range alternative to snipers
- semi auto snipers need a firing cap so that you can't spam it at close range for easy hipfire kills.
Foxy Fox 39 said:
Played a couple games (all random lobbies, almost never the same) and I've had the best luck streaks with the Striker. The focus for me is going up against high bullet damage, so high fire rate is a must to even begin to combat against an AR, then again if you're pretty accurate the KSG and 1887 can be good; between the two I find the 1887 more satisfying.
USAS - Needs more range in comparison to the striker, works, but not better in my experience.
KSG - Pump action hurts it.
Spas - Better, but the damage isn't good enough in most cases.
AA-12 - Suffers in range and accuracy.
1887 - Feels good, but if you miss, you're dead.
If you're a good K/D player with a good connection and response times, shotguns may work good, but this is my experience and my KD is 1.012.
SlackAdjuster said:
I really love MW3 also, but I think Kill Confirmed is garbage. Basically, people just camp the tags. If you're stuck playing with people who don't get the concept of the game mode, you're screwed. You'll be by yourself, and run into 3 or 4 enemies. Even if you manage to put down 2 of them, you don't get credit for it.
I give IW props for putting in something DIFFERENT, but ugh.
BattleMonkey
Member
left_senseless said:
When it happens alot, it's just making excuses for crappy netcode. There is no strategy to deal with lag bullshit. People spend their money wanting their games to work
R2D4 said:
Blasphemer! Everyone knows that MW had NO issues! Well, except the riverbed glitch that was never fixed. And a few others glitches... But yeah, its the beauty of internet gaming. I threw the B.S. flag on certain deaths in MW, MW2, and on Black Ops, so its no surprise that I'll throw it now on MW3. Concurrently, there are encounters where I should have been dead, yet walk away with the kill.
No matter what happpens, if I die, its because of bad netcode, aimbots, wall hacks, poor map design, over powered weapons, bad teammates, bad spawns, or just plain cheating.
ThirstyFly
Member
Man, that Juggernaut mode in private matches is hilariously awesome.
Don't think my friends cared for being Juggerstomped though so I doubt we'll be playing it again
Don't think my friends cared for being Juggerstomped though so I doubt we'll be playing it again
Mr. B Natural
Member
Working fine? Are apologists even trying anymore?rCIZZLE said:My game is working perfectly fine. Maybe like 1/10 new matches I run into a bad host and it boots me out but soon as I get in a game I'm good until I'm hungry/tired.
The game even FEELS different when you're host, like BLOPs did. There is CLEAR input lag when you're not host and 3 bars in this game is a death sentence and 4 bars doesn't mean a damn thing either because anything less is abysmal. Let's not talk about ground war, not even worth it.
This is a safe sequel. Safe sequels should IMPROVE on things like connection and lag, not be worse than the predecessors. People's standards are so low these days that if the game works, it's great. Unbelievable. This game doesn't even have the excuses like the maps being too big, or too many players, or the graphics are just too damn good.
Omg the Specialist kill streaks are mental.
Got a 17-3 (Mission) and 14-1 (Dome) using this layout earlier:
Primary: PP90m1 (Silenced, Kick)
Secondary: P99 (Silenced)
Lethal: Frags
Tactical: Flash
Perks:
Blind Eye
Assassin Pro (easily the best perk on the game)
Stalker Pro
Killstreak:
2: Sleight of Hand
4: Extreme Conditioning
6: Sitrep
The PP90m1 is a beast.
Got a 17-3 (Mission) and 14-1 (Dome) using this layout earlier:
Primary: PP90m1 (Silenced, Kick)
Secondary: P99 (Silenced)
Lethal: Frags
Tactical: Flash
Perks:
Blind Eye
Assassin Pro (easily the best perk on the game)
Stalker Pro
Killstreak:
2: Sleight of Hand
4: Extreme Conditioning
6: Sitrep
The PP90m1 is a beast.
We are apologists because we don't have that many issues with the connection?Mr. B Natural said:
I also don't have problems playing. Perhaps once every 10 or so (as the other guy said) matches will give me trouble, but then again
1) It's still the first week.
2) I live in a region where the game is still not on sale (it will be released this thursday).
So yeah...
basic_element
Member
I really suck at this game. I'm talking like 1 kill 20 deaths bad. Any advice on how to do better? Is it just a matter of playing the game more? Right now I'm at level 8. Any recommendations on what weapon I should be using?
basic_element said:
Set low kill streaks. If I were you, I'd concentrate on getting support packages. Play domination, and capture the first flag in front of you. That way, you'll be halfway towards getting your UAV, which will help you get kills.
For me, the UMP45 is probably the best gun in the game. There are so many up close and personal encounters, that you need something with a good rate of fire and does decent damage. The UMP fits the bill.
Use situational awareness. If there's a helo raining down death, either go inside, or put on a stealth class and shoot it down. Also, watch your kill cams. Maybe you'll get an idea of how the other guy got a jump on you, and figure out where he's hiding to get some payback.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
What's your set-up?basic_element said: