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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 |OT| Got 99 Problems, But Sales Ain't One.

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Respawn

Banned
BruiserBear said:
Why would someone want to reset their stats?
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I like the challenge of starting again. Gives the game more longevity to me.
tsigo said:
Shotguns are unbelievably bad, especially the SPAS 12. That has no business being a primary as it is right now.
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The SPAS is actually pretty good. Many have said it's gotten a revival since the patch.
 
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The Xtortionist

Member
Strider2K99 said:
The Xtortionist, what's the deal with the XBL message that just says "gaf"?
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I need to add you folks as XBL friends in order to send clan invites. Player search isn't working. Just letting everyone know where the FR is coming from.
 
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SmokeMaxX

Member
tsigo said:
Shotguns are unbelievably bad, especially the SPAS 12. That has no business being a primary as it is right now.
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I'm going to disagree. I've played shotguns in every CoD game since 4 and they feel about the same as they always had (minus MW2; and I don't really remember the BO shotguns honestly). How did people play in large maps with the shotguns of CoD4 and WaW? They're not user-friendly, but that doesn't mean they're bad.

EDIT: Did the SPAS get patched? It might be why I was having a field day with it earlier. I'll try the other shotguns out in a bit. Striker is already godly I know and the Models seem to be alright too.
 
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TestOfTide

Banned
Jeff-DSA said:
Video of one hacker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erruv0QYJ8w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Yeah, me and two other gaf people just dealt with a guy who went under the map on outpost and just leisurely shot us with his LMG while under the map. We were even winning too at first but the guy used the exploit to get a reaper and osprey gunner.

tsigo said:
KSG-12 is unbelievably bad. It has no business being a primary as it is right now.
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Fixed that for you. USAS-12, Striker, and Spas-12 are great. AA-12 is alright if you use steady aim and scavenger. Models is weird because it has a ridiculously far two shot kill range with the range attachment but a very inconsistent one shot kill range.
 
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The_Player

Member
NYR said:
So it's like every other cod game. Patch will be out soon. Take a break.
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All we need is bloody dedicated servers instead this p2p crap. Blops was much better in this terms. See hacker? Ban it! It's that simple. But, of course, IW knows better what we really need. Argh.
 
njean777

njean777

Member
The Xtortionist said:
I need to add you folks as XBL friends in order to send clan invites. Player search isn't working. Just letting everyone know where the FR is coming from.
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Your mass xtortion right? I meant to play with you tonight but you sent the invite about 10min befor I had to get off lol.
 
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Touch

Member
So I used the KSG 12 today. I don't even know what to say. To those that have used the shotguns a lot, do they get better with the damage proficiency. I really like the shotguns but I feel that getting a hitmarker(s) the knifed is kind of not fair.
 
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TestOfTide

Banned
Touch said:
So I used the KSG 12 today. I don't even know what to say. To those that have used the shotguns a lot, do they get better with the damage proficiency. I really like the shotguns but I feel that getting a hitmarker(s) the knifed is kind of not fair.
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DONT USE THE KSG-12. It's completely unusable. It's so bad that i need to use bold to emphasize how important it is to actually doing well in the game that you don't use that shotgun.

Seriously. Just use the USAS-12. It fires faster than the KSG-12, has better range than the KSG-12 (and with the range proficiency has some ridiculously good range), has a better reload setup than the KSG-12, and you are going to more consistently get a close range kill with the USAS-12.
 
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kuYuri

Member
The Xtortionist said:
I need to add you folks as XBL friends in order to send clan invites. Player search isn't working. Just letting everyone know where the FR is coming from.
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Just send a friend request next time. :p

Also, I'm sure they will the hacking with a hotfix rather than a full patch. Glitches were fixed within hours in Black Ops with this method.
 
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tsigo

Member
In Black Ops' theater mode, couldn't you watch first person from any player's perspective? Could've sworn you could. In MW3 if you switch to first person, no matter who you're on, it switches to your own perspective. And why can't you bring up the player list during theater anymore?
 
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The Xtortionist

Member
Strider2K99 said:
Just send a friend request next time. :p
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I was under the impression that I sent a FR with the text "gaf". The redesigned xbox.com fucked me up.

Anyway, many friend requests and clan invites were sent out tonight.
 
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SmokeMaxX

Member
I'll try the KSG-12 out. Will report back. I'm curious how bad it really is. If you don't hear from me soon, I might be on suicide watch.
 
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The Xtortionist

Member
Strider2K99 said:
Joined the NeoGAF clan on Elite. :)

Is there any point to Clan XP or it's just for show/bragging rights?
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Level 10 gives us a special gold clan tag in game. Can also earn double XP time and some other goodies by leveling up.

edit - And go into your Barracks and click Elite Clan Title : )
 
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tsigo

Member
Here's the Dead Man's Hand radius I was talking about earlier.

And can someone explain what the fuck happened here? I stick the guy, he survives. No Blast Shield. The only thing I can think of is he humped the wall and made it explode outside while he's safe inside. That's pretty lame if so (on the game's part; brilliant play if he did it on purpose).
 
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kuYuri

Member
tsigo said:
Here's the Dead Man's Hand radius I was talking about earlier.

And can someone explain what the fuck happened here? I stick the guy, he survives. No Blast Shield. The only thing I can think of is he humped the wall and made it explode outside while he's safe inside. That's pretty lame if so (on the game's part; brilliant play if he did it on purpose).
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I'm guessing it's like MW2 where putting your body against geometry can allow you to survive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEmEhjkgq2o#t=00m19s
 
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SmokeMaxX

Member
SmokeMaxX said:
I'll try the KSG-12 out. Will report back. I'm curious how bad it really is. If you don't hear from me soon, I might be on suicide watch.
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Not as bad as I thought. A FEW times I was close range and didn't get a kill but first time using it I went 36-26 and got the game winning plant in Overtime in Demolition.
It's a bit harder to use than the other guns in the game, but not unusable as long as you avoid mid-long range.
 
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Kermit The Dog

Banned
I think you're all underestimating the awfulness of IW's version of Theater Mode. Holy crap it's horrendous.
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- The playback speeds are no longer touch-sensitive. You have to manually set the speed, then press A and it plays it at the chosen speed.
- You cannot view a first-person perspective of another player. Only yourself.
- You can't check the scoreboard while watching a game.
- The button layouts have been changed around in an illogical, frustrating fashion.

All in all, it's utterly fucking pathetic.
 
jadedm17

jadedm17

Member
This game is growing on, but then again I grew to love Black Ops so I can't be trusted. Still hate the maps and friends are a must.

Moment of the Day : Quadruple kill on Outpost with a stun grenade shortly after spawn down the main corridor. Hit an explosive barrel and the rest was history.

Side note : I *love* the community.

(TDM on Village)
Random Guy : That fucking chopper is annoying. The fucking fuck it keeps killing me.
Me : Take it out then.
RG : I don't have anything.
Me : Switch your class then.
RG : Im not switching my fucking class you switch yours.
Me : I havent died by it. If its killing you then switch your playstyle.
RG : Im not switching my playstyle fuck that I'ma get my own and run all over these muthafuckas.

End Game : Loss. Me 12K 6D. RG 7K 15D.

Whining about a helicopter but offering no help to destroy it. Insert Picard facepalm here.
 
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skullwolfgp

Neo Member
Jeff-DSA said:
360. Spent three rounds in a row with guys clipping outside of the map and killing us from underground.
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Yeah, saw my first glitcher on PS3 today (saw a hacking sniper before, but that's all). He was doing this glitch, but right next to his team's flag in capture the flag.
 
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Shady859

Member
Wow is this even possible? I've logged 24 hours minus 40 minutes, I just saw Downturn tonight for the first time. lol in domination which I play alot...
 
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AEGISX

Banned
wtf is wrong with iw server? I just played 4 hours straight, I went from level 47 to 53. I never dashboarded during that period.
I exited to main menu then returned to multiplayer my level went back to 47, I tried exit to main menu and return to multiplayer again, still at 47. ALL that callsigns and weapons I unlocked went to nothing.
WTF is this garbage!? WTF!!!!

EDIT: there was one match, I think the host dashboarded because we were winning then all of sudden "lost connection to host". could this be the reason my level went back to 47?
 
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SmokeMaxX

Member
AEGISX said:
wtf is wrong with iw server? I just played 4 hours straight, I went from level 47 to 53. I never dashboarded during that period.
I exited to main menu then returned to multiplayer my level went back to 47, I tried exit to main menu and return to multiplayer again, still at 47. ALL that callsigns and weapons I unlocked went to nothing.
WTF is this garbage!? WTF!!!!

EDIT: there was one match, I think the host dashboarded because we were winning then all of sudden "lost connection to host". could this be the reason my level went back to 47?
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Yeah I lost about 20 levels the other day including when I prestiged. Worst part? I was supposed to be studying so I got double screwed.
 
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Syph Medwes

Member
unomas said:
I haven't unlocked rapid fire on it yet, but sounds like it's beast. Can't wait!
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Lol yeah it is. It's the one combo I can't counter, since if the person is running rapid fire, it's a one burst kill.
I used it for a while to try it out and in my first game with it I went something like 30/2.
I stopped using it cause it felt kinda cheap. That and I hate burst weapons lol.
Back to the SCAR for me.
 
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Jeff-DSA

Member
skullwolfgp said:
Yeah, saw my first glitcher on PS3 today (saw a hacking sniper before, but that's all). He was doing this glitch, but right next to his team's flag in capture the flag.
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Well we had a guy that had to have had an auto aim assist too. It wasn't him being a good shot, because he never aimed, just hip fired rifles and never, ever missed, even across the map.

Also, what's up with the giant buttons in the clan tags? Big A, B, X, Y, or D-pad symbols in the clan tags. How do you do that? It's obnoxious.
 
Agent_J

Agent_J

Member
i might as well ask in here: is the hardened edition worth it for a first time CoD buyer? been playing the multiplayer for a couple games now, but never actually bought any of em. since amazon has it in stock, i might hop on it.
 
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glaurung

Member
slick7rick said:
i might as well ask in here: is the hardened edition worth it for a first time CoD buyer? been playing the multiplayer for a couple games now, but never actually bought any of em. since amazon has it in stock, i might hop on it.
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Unless you intend to play the game religiously for the next 10 or more months, get the regular version.

The steelbook and the collectible battle diary are cool, but the real draw is the full year Elite membership. And I haven't had a chance to try it yet because Elite is broken like fuck.
 
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rCIZZLE

Member
slick7rick said:
i might as well ask in here: is the hardened edition worth it for a first time CoD buyer? been playing the multiplayer for a couple games now, but never actually bought any of em. since amazon has it in stock, i might hop on it.
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Yes if you can see yourself playing the same shooter off and on for the next year. No if you like SP and don't really want to put that much time into one game.
 
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aku:jiki

Member
Jeff-DSA said:
I'm referring to the tag shown here. Look at the giant A B A clan tag. What's up with that?
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It's just a minor hack anyone can do on an unmodded console and does not imply that they're using hacked consoles. It can be pretty annoying though, especially after Black Ops made us used to customizing name displays.

It is a little weird how Treyarch obviously shared theatre and network code, but not minor options like the name one. The IW/Treyarch relationship seems pretty awkward.
 
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Guenther

Member
skullwolfgp said:
Yeah, saw my first glitcher on PS3 today (saw a hacking sniper before, but that's all). He was doing this glitch, but right next to his team's flag in capture the flag.
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Had the same problem yesterday. But killing this guy wasn´t really a problem.
 
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SmokeMaxX

Member
Jeff-DSA said:
I'm referring to the tag shown here. Look at the giant A B A clan tag. What's up with that?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/jar155/MW3tags.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
If you use strange character combinations, you can make those symbols appear. Not really a glitch or a hack, just what's labeled an "exploit."

KSG-12 class- Been going +5/10 or more with it. Try it out. It's not a Jesus class, so you have to play it smart, but you should be able to do well with it.

Primary: KSG-12 + Whatever unlocks (I have only unlocked grip + recoil proficiency so far)
Secondary: Machine Pistol + Silencer (You want a secondary that can either do mid-range or long range; I like machine pistols for this but I've used launchers in previous CoDs)

Grenade: Doesn't really matter- Depends on your style. Semtax or Frag probably
Special: Smoke. Stun is too slow in this version and flash takes too long. Smoke covers up weaknesses at long range where a guy sees you but you can't do anything about it without getting shot.

Perk 1: Blind Eye - No need dying to things you can't shoot down
Perk 2: Assassin - If you can't get close without being seen, you're dead. CAN substitute for Hardline (for Specialist Strike Package), but I don't recommend it on the shotguns since you can't just "get a kill" to immediately get Assassin.
Perk 3: Dead Silence - Falls into the same category as the above. If people can hear you, you're probably going to get killed

Specialist Strike Package: Don't really remember, but just some perks to help me get kills. Probably Sleight of Hand, Extreme Conditioning, and Blast Shield or something like that.

Strategy: Stick to closed areas and keep inside buildings when applicable. If you're walking through an area that's a straight path, that's one line of sight that you can't do anything about with your shotgun. You want the shortest possible lines of sight and if you HAVE to cross through an open area, check to make sure it isn't being watched first. If it is, pop a smoke and run through it or use it as a decoy to divert their attention. Most of your kills will come from shooting people in the back as the KSG-12 isn't very strong so engagements from anything past super close range becomes a coin flip. Flank, flank, flank. Wait at choke points (and yes, 90% of the maps have areas with high congestion even in TDM). DO NOT ENGAGE AT MEDIUM RANGE IF YOU HAVE THE CHOICE (unless you're shooting them in the back).

"Advanced" tactics: Plant the bomb and as time goes down, throw a smoke on it and lie prone close enough to the bomb where you can see the briefcase. With the time running down, it's hard to see a body laying on the ground without a name popping up and you'll be in perfect position to use your shotgun since they're pressured into trying to defuse.

If you're not really comfortable with shotguns, switch to your machine pistol when you have to go through areas of the map that has a lot of open space. This will save you a lot of frustration.

Make sure to use the structure of the map accordingly. If a person is shooting at me and there's a pillar in front of me, I'll go prone behind the pillar (in their line of sight) until I heal and then try to make a break for it. Also with a shotgun, know when you can or can't get a kill. I constantly ignore several enemies just because I know I can't kill them and following them will also lead to my death. Pick your targets wisely.

I'll update this when I get better proficiencies. I'm HOPING there's a "speed" attachment or proficiency which acts like Double Tap and lets me fire twice at a decent speed. If not, I'll throw power or range on there and see if those help with the stopping power.
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Meadows

Banned
I'm 99% sure Dead Silence is waste of time. With 8 hours clocked I can count the amount of times on one hand I've heard an enemy's footsteps. Sitrep or Steady Aim are much better fits with a shotgun class.
 
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SmokeMaxX

Member
Meadows said:
I'm 99% sure Dead Silence is waste of time. With 8 hours clocked I can count the amount of times on one hand I've heard an enemy's footsteps. Sitrep or Steady Aim are much better fits with a shotgun class.
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It may just be my headset- but I'm not really convinced that's it since I have the cheapest gaming headset in the market (Turtle Beach X11s that I got on clearance for like $12).
However, I get a large majority of my kills because I can hear clearly where the opponent is. I flank a lot though so I know my teammates aren't around and the footsteps have to be the enemy.

Sitrep can be helpful if you're not used to looking for enemy equipment (or just to be safe). Steady Aim is probably good with the shotguns, but I haven't tried it yet, and most of them have good hip-fire anyway.

Stalker Pro might be useful but its non-pro version is generally useless for shotgun classes. Similarly, Marksman (non-pro) might be useful to identify enemies. Dead Silence Pro is also helpful for running wherever you want (including jumping off places without taking damage).
 
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aku:jiki

Member
SmokeMaxX said:
I'll update this when I get better proficiencies. I'm HOPING there's a "speed" attachment or proficiency which acts like Double Tap and lets me fire twice at a decent speed. If not, I'll throw power or range on there and see if those help with the stopping power.
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According to a video posted by TmarTn, Range is the best shotgun proficiency by far. The video was linked just 2-3 pages ago. Can't wait to, well... I guess I won't be trying that out until I hit 10th prestige since it takes so long to unlock. :(

ShinobiFist said:
Random matches suck. I'm the only one with a rocket launcher :(
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So enjoy being the only one to reap easy point streaks? I'm cheering to myself whenever the enemy calls in a strafing run.
 
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