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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 |OT| Got 99 Problems, But Sales Ain't One.

aku:jiki

Member
This is how I'm feeling too.
I have 40 days played in MW2 and I just cannot get my head around the map design in 3. Did IW's map designers fuck off to Respawn? Cos this new game doesn't feel like cod to me at all.
I think maybe the map designers for MW2 were mostly freelancers? I was never very into CS but I remember many people commenting that the maps in MW2 were made by famous CS map designers. (Which is why Karachi is a remake of an old CS map.)

They had themes so you could tell who did what - some guy signed his maps with "Compound," and another guy featured the made-up "Kriegler" company a lot (like the big logo in Highrise says Kriegler). None of that in MW3...

The Cthulhu easter eggs in Lockdown are awesome though! The graffiti is some dark incantation shit and there's a poster advertising a Cthulhu bar up on that external walkway above a staircase. Anyone notice any more easter eggs?
 

vatstep

This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
I think the title update that got pushed out overnight (for 360, not sure if there was one for PS3) was actually a reversion to the previous one. I remember noticing before the TU from Friday night that the version of the game (on the Xbox Live menu) was 1.1.460.x (the last number seemed to change with each hotfix). After the TU on Friday night, it went up to 1.3.465.9. Now, after last night's update, it's back to 1.1.460.9.

With all the talk about addressing laggy connections, did they realize that the title update from a few days ago messed something up (a lot of people seemed to think so) and immediately had Microsoft/Sony push out the previous version?
 

Apoc87

Banned
Dear IW, please nerf the Type 95. I keep going back to it like a crack whore who just can't stay away.

It's too easy to beast with. Too easy.
 
It's sort of weird that the main weakness (and the only weakness so far) of the game is the map quality. I guess it will make for instant bank when the retro pack comes.
 

Jeff-DSA

Member
I'm not playing anymore until they fix the lag. I can't. The game is straight broken.

If I sucked and just couldn't hit the broadside of the barn, that would be one thing. When I hit my opponent point blank with a grenade launcher and then he turns and shoots me with the kill cam showing that I whiffed on the grenade shot by 20 feet, that's broken. When I keep getting killed AFTER running into cover because on my screen I'm in cover but in reality I'm still half a second from getting around the wall, that's broken. When I put a full clip into someone and then the kill cam shows I didn't even fire a single bullet, that's more broken than anything I've ever seen.

The game has too big of a lag/sync issue for me to keep playing. Between Skyrim, Zelda, Batman, StarCraft 2, and Battlefield 3, there's too many good games to deal with broken garbage. I've never seen a game in my entire life that's so out of sync between the two sides of the connection. Now any time I have a good game, I'll just chalk it up to being half a second ahead of my opponent. When I have a bad game, I'll assume the reverse is true. When I can't feel good about my game or I can't feel like the other guy was just better, I'd rather not play.
 

Fantasmo

Member
I'm not playing anymore until they fix the lag. I can't. The game is straight broken.

If I sucked and just couldn't hit the broadside of the barn, that would be one thing. When I hit my opponent point blank with a grenade launcher and then he turns and shoots me with the kill cam showing that I whiffed on the grenade shot by 20 feet, that's broken. When I keep getting killed AFTER running into cover because on my screen I'm in cover but in reality I'm still half a second from getting around the wall, that's broken. When I put a full clip into someone and then the kill cam shows I didn't even fire a single bullet, that's more broken than anything I've ever seen.

The game has too big of a lag/sync issue for me to keep playing. Between Skyrim, Zelda, Batman, StarCraft 2, and Battlefield 3, there's too many good games to deal with broken garbage. I've never seen a game in my entire life that's so out of sync between the two sides of the connection. Now any time I have a good game, I'll just chalk it up to being half a second ahead of my opponent. When I have a bad game, I'll assume the reverse is true. When I can't feel good about my game or I can't feel like the other guy was just better, I'd rather not play.
4 bar only Find Match absolutely nerds to be an option
 

Shady859

Member
Stop bitching about type 95 and start bitching about an absolute lack of objective stats. The game needs a scoreboard overhaul.

Things exist besides kills...

Oh yea and FTR I roll 95 and akimbo FMG9's lol I wish i'd unlocked the 95's after prestiging. Oh how I missed thee!
 
Oh yea and FTR I roll 95 and akimbo FMG9's lol I wish i'd unlocked the 95's after prestiging. Oh how I missed thee!

I'm sure this has been asked before but when you choose "unlock gear", you only retain the base gun correct? None of the proficiency, attachments or camo options are retained?

Also, are you able to "unlock gear" on a perk? And do you get the pro version of that perk?
 

Hixx

Member
It won't help. It's just bad netcode. We were playing in private matches last night, with all of us being from the same city and it was still a good half second out of sync between us all.

have you turned theatre mode off? It was unplayable when I played for the first time in a week or so yesterday but once I turned it off my connection was great, very rare I find myself blaming the lag now whereas yesterday I was going mental.
 

Sethos

Banned
have you turned theatre mode off? It was unplayable when I played for the first time in a week or so yesterday but once I turned it off my connection was great, very rare I find myself blaming the lag now whereas yesterday I was going mental.

That does fuck all.
 

Stantron

Member
I'm not playing anymore until they fix the lag. I can't. The game is straight broken.

If I sucked and just couldn't hit the broadside of the barn, that would be one thing. When I hit my opponent point blank with a grenade launcher and then he turns and shoots me with the kill cam showing that I whiffed on the grenade shot by 20 feet, that's broken. When I keep getting killed AFTER running into cover because on my screen I'm in cover but in reality I'm still half a second from getting around the wall, that's broken. When I put a full clip into someone and then the kill cam shows I didn't even fire a single bullet, that's more broken than anything I've ever seen.

The game has too big of a lag/sync issue for me to keep playing. Between Skyrim, Zelda, Batman, StarCraft 2, and Battlefield 3, there's too many good games to deal with broken garbage. I've never seen a game in my entire life that's so out of sync between the two sides of the connection. Now any time I have a good game, I'll just chalk it up to being half a second ahead of my opponent. When I have a bad game, I'll assume the reverse is true. When I can't feel good about my game or I can't feel like the other guy was just better, I'd rather not play.

I hear you loud and clear. The lag in this game and in past CoDs drives me insane. It matters little what gun you're using or your aim skills. Lag dis-advantage trumps all that shit. And it makes you feel repeatedly cheated on almost every 1v1 gun engagement.
 
I'm sure this has been asked before but when you choose "unlock gear", you only retain the base gun correct? None of the proficiency, attachments or camo options are retained?

Also, are you able to "unlock gear" on a perk? And do you get the pro version of that perk?
The gun will be unlocked, but not leveled up so you have to use it to unlock attachments. Perks can be unlocked, but the same goes for the perk, you won't have the pro version.

Only one bummer is that the Specialist strike package can't be unlocked so if that's your thing you still have to wait until level 20 which isn't too bad.
 
Best part of MW3?

Most of the quick-scopers and boosters have moved on to it, MW2 has never been more enjoyable. Thanks IW for finally fixing MW2 (by releasing MW3). :D
 

Meadows

Banned
You're all having way worse luck with the game than me, lag has BARELY been an issue with me (UK, PS3, Open NAT). I've literally had lag affect less than 5% of my matches. Either:

- You're raging because you're getting killed and blaming it on lag
- It's worse in the USA
- It's worse on 360
- You've got shit internet (probably not, I'm fine on 8MB/S)
- Me and all of my friends are a lucky minority (seems unlikely)

Let's move onto reasons that MW3 is a big step up from MW2:

- Grenade launchers became a late unlock, meaning that people who have just got a gun aren't running around n00b tubing because they haven't got red dot
- Quick scoping is much rarer due to the delay in sniper zoom (this was a fucking piss take in MW2)
- I don't feel I'm being killed unfairly as much
- Specialist/support kill streaks
- Juggernaut
- Bouncing betty
- Loads more customisation/stats
- Kill confirmed

In conclusion, ragers gonna rage, haters gonna hate, suck my dick, swag swag swag, Meadows out
 

X-Frame

Member
Is anyone else feeling like going with the Assault strike package is sort of pointless when you can wreaking havoc with the Support and greatly support your team?
 

Meadows

Banned
Is anyone else feeling like going with the Assault strike package is sort of pointless when you can wreaking havoc with the Support and greatly support your team?

Support is about winning, Assault is about building a streak, with each part giving you a boost, for example, get 5 kills on your own, then 1/2 more with predator, then 2 more with a chopper and then 5 more with an AC130
 

Jeff-DSA

Member
You're all having way worse luck with the game than me, lag has BARELY been an issue with me (UK, PS3, Open NAT). I've literally had lag affect less than 5% of my matches. Either:

- You're raging because you're getting killed and blaming it on lag
- It's worse in the USA
- It's worse on 360
- You've got shit internet (probably not, I'm fine on 8MB/S)
- Me and all of my friends are a lucky minority (seems unlikely)

I went 29-3, 32-3, and 28-4 against my friends in Kill Confirmed private matches two nights ago. Last night I could barely muster up 12-20, 5-17, and similar performances. Same groups of friends, all from the same city, all with open NATs, all with 5, 10, or 20Mbps speeds all on the same provider (Comcast). The lag issues are ever present. Public matches are the same way.

We all are seeing big discrepancies between kill cams and what was actually viewed in the live moment. There are countless YouTube videos that document the same stuff. There's a fundamental issue with the game, and perfect connections doesn't seem capable of eliminating it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnTKDAX-uV4
 

Meadows

Banned
I went 29-3, 32-3, and 28-4 against my friends in Kill Confirmed private matches two nights ago. Last night I could barely muster up 12-20, 5-17, and similar performances. Same groups of friends, all from the same city, all with open NATs, all with 5, 10, or 20Mbps speeds all on the same provider (Comcast). The lag issues are ever present. Public matches are the same way.

We all are seeing big discrepancies between kill cams and what was actually viewed in the live moment. There are countless YouTube videos that document the same stuff. There's a fundamental issue with the game, and perfect connections doesn't seem capable of eliminating it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnTKDAX-uV4

I don't think you read my post:

Haters gonna hate, swag swag swag
 

Jeff-DSA

Member
I don't think you read my post:

Haters gonna hate, swag swag swag

So you're basically unwilling to discuss the issue. Why are you even here if you just want to troll people with legitimate complaints? Go join a fan forum if you're not concerned about actually improving the game.
 

Meadows

Banned
So you're basically unwilling to discuss the issue. Why are you even here if you just want to troll people with legitimate complaints? Go join a fan forum if you're not concerned about actually improving the game.

u r so cool

Listed my views. Made my allegations. Swagged my swag.
 
support package was poorly implemented, it's responsible for just as much killstreak spam as MW2, except you don't really have to work hard for a killstreak this time around
 

Jeff-DSA

Member
I don't run with Akimbo pistols, but I do see them quite a bit and they're awesome. I usually have a launcher as my secondary as I'm more of a support type guy and keeping the air clean is a big help, especially in Domination.
 
support package was poorly implemented, it's responsible for just as much killstreak spam as MW2, except you don't really have to work hard for a killstreak this time around

The only problem I have with the support package is the constant emps. I hate when my sam turrets just blow up.

On a side note akimbo was a bad idea to begin with.
 

Keikaku

Member
All the sightlines and hiding places in these maps are killing me. It's crazy how much more fucked up the spawn system makes everything too.

I detailed my main objections in a post above. I'll add to that the akimbo FMGs are ridiculous.

u r so cool

Listed my views. Made my allegations. Swagged my swag.
I used to think you were a good poster before this. You've certainly done your damnedest to be a prick with this one.
 
Yup I hate the Type 95. That gun can go to hell..How the hell can I empty a full magazine into someone in the back only to have them turn right around and kill me with a 3 rd burst? Hit detection my ass!!!! Bah hum bug. At least I finished the rd with a positive k:d ratio.
 
Is anyone else feeling like going with the Assault strike package is sort of pointless when you can wreaking havoc with the Support and greatly support your team?

I was running support for my first run and half through my first prestige when I finally got more comfortable with the nuances. Now I'm back on assault and realized how much fun I've been missing out on with the assault streaks :).
 

LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
Nice video Max. I really need to force myself to use the stinger...but that means I won't have my precious FMGs. Decisions, decisions.

53-1 Easy Killstreaks by Maximilian - Modern Warfare 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNP-cXbAFk


Just a quick vid going over some easier methods to get killstreaks, and how crazy it can get with recycling assault killstreaks.

Yea man. I JUST last night starting using the Akimbo FMG9. It's the most fun I've had with the game yet, haha.
 
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