And see, this is why I hate it. I love persona and I love the persona community, because there's such a wide variety of topics in the game to discuss. However, more often than not, at least on the discussion board, Persona threads devolve into banter about the female characters. It's weird, obnoxious, and borderline sexist. And I know I've been a part of it before too, but I really realized how much it was bothering other people.
Now the same thing is happening with Fire Emblem and it's really bugging me out. I've got no problem that these systems are in these games I love, but it just attracts this really disturbing and alienating conversation that dominates the scene.