That's a perfect example of overrreaction.
Pretty much. You keep/allow someone to take a photo of a cum shot on your ass? And you're not a porn star?
I am literally laughing out loud.
Can we talk about the apparent iCloud break-in?
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That's a perfect example of overrreaction.
Pretty much. You keep/allow someone to take a photo of a cum shot on your ass? And you're not a porn star?
I am literally laughing out loud.
Uno Venova
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What if I don't click and just use hover-zoom.
Your logic is too much for these people.
These are the same victims of the Heartbleed issue, they were frightened and taking every precautions possible, but some of us were still victimized.
They can't understand this. They're absolutely in their own fantasy world where they think they are invincible to everything, that is, until it happens to them and they are publicly humiliated.
I wouldn't know, I can't bring myself to look at anyone who hasn't consented to it.
Uh maybe because these women never consented it was okay for you to view them? Shocking right?
plasmawave
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So much emotions!
Yep. If Jenny Law comes out and says "yeah, I like giving my bf bjs, so what?" then absolutely no harm is done and the shame is on us for being peeping Toms.
Articles like this will just generate more curiosity. The MSM needs to stop reporting the celebrities involved and stick to the technical and law-enforcement aspects if they don't want people to look up these pics. But that news doesn't get page-views and viewers so it won't happen...
Nice display of empathy for other people.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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This is a very normal thing to do. Why would that make someone a porn star?
JohnnyLovesYou
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What the fuck am I even reading.
I saw the shit on twitter. How does my seeing them = my seeking them out?
Should my sick and sinful eyes have retracted back into my fucking skull the very second they caught a glimpse?
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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You could act as if you have any emotion about people's private sex photos getting stolen and shared with the world that isn't just all about you.
I remember back in the day when you had to face the guy at the photomat to get your kinky pics developed. No phone selfies or uploading. Just a shrug and a murmur of not really knowing what was on that old disposable camera you found, and could you get it put on CD too? Also no eye contact.
Why are you keeping a photo? For memento's sake?
Shit is in the public domain. It's done.
What's funny about any of this? Way to make yourself out as a total ass.
Overreacting right? Tell me, if this was your mother having her pictures spread everywhere, how would you feel?
GremlinFool
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I think what constitutes reasonable precaution and preventative measures varies tremendously person to person.
For example, I think the average person on GAF should feel substantially more secure that someone won't leak their private photos online than prominent celebrities should, given the precedent for leaks and the intense scrutiny and overzealous fandoms many celebrities engender. When viewed from this perspective, I think it's perfectly reasonable for celebrities to be extra careful in disseminating and storing private photos or information on the web.
Some of the reductio ad absurdum examples posited in this thread are missing the central points of the brigade of people reacting negatively to people posting "victim blaming" ad nauseam dismissively. The way I see it, this debate boils down to three pretty axiomatic principles:
In terms of where I stand on the issue, despite potential outcries from people saying that this sort of dogma just perpetuates rape culture, I really think it would have been within reason for JLaw and other celebrities to be super cautious about anything related to their private lives. Such is the nature of celebrity in the digital age.
Still disgusting it happened, but that's the reality of the situation.
For example, I think the average person on GAF should feel substantially more secure that someone won't leak their private photos online than prominent celebrities should, given the precedent for leaks and the intense scrutiny and overzealous fandoms many celebrities engender. When viewed from this perspective, I think it's perfectly reasonable for celebrities to be extra careful in disseminating and storing private photos or information on the web.
Some of the reductio ad absurdum examples posited in this thread are missing the central points of the brigade of people reacting negatively to people posting "victim blaming" ad nauseam dismissively. The way I see it, this debate boils down to three pretty axiomatic principles:
- In a cost-benefit analysis, an individual ought to take reasonable precaution to prevent being targetted in a crime.
- What constitutes reasonable precaution varies wildly from individual to individual.
- A victim not taking reasonable precaution does not exonerate the perpetrator of a crime.
In terms of where I stand on the issue, despite potential outcries from people saying that this sort of dogma just perpetuates rape culture, I really think it would have been within reason for JLaw and other celebrities to be super cautious about anything related to their private lives. Such is the nature of celebrity in the digital age.
Still disgusting it happened, but that's the reality of the situation.
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Who cares why they're keeping it? They're human beings allowed to do whatever the fuck they want if it's not hurting anyone. They didn't want them shared or else they would have done it themselves.
Winterfang
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Eeeh is not that normal man. You need to have a girl that one, like to give blows jobs which is pretty normal. then willing to take a load to the face, which is more uncommon, then willing for you to take pictures of the result, which is even more uncommon
I very much doubt I'm hurting Kate Upton by looking at her pics.
JohnnyLovesYou
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Of course I feel sorry about what happened to these people. My anger is clearly directed at a poster here and in no way is a reflection of my viewpoint of the many individuals affected.
I feel sorry for those who have had their privacy compromised by malicious hackers. I also can't stand condescending people blaming others for having fucking seen the images. They were all over the web last night. Morality when it comes to things like this is super subjective. While I don't personally condone the actions of individuals who seek out and share these leaked images, I can't condemn other people if they choose to. I respect other people's right to be their own moral compass unlike some here.
that's kind of funny in a way, when you think about it. generationally.
Until she does, show some goddamn brains.
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I one think we can take from all this is that despite having over a decade of technological advancements phone cameras are still as shity as they have ever been
I shouldn't have to say this, because it shouldn't matter, but I feel some people can't comprehend this any other way unless it personally affects them.
Are you going to tell me if your mother/sister/daughter/girlfriend/etc. had their account hacked, which lead to a ton of their private sex lives exposed, you're telling me you aren't going to tell people they are wrong for sharing it across the Internet? You're telling me you are going to tell them that the problem here is that they kept private info locked away in a private part of their account? You're telling me even the tiniest part of what you'd have to say has to do with blaming them?
Are you going to tell me if your mother/sister/daughter/girlfriend/etc. had their account hacked, which lead to a ton of their private sex lives exposed, you're telling me you aren't going to tell people they are wrong for sharing it across the Internet? You're telling me you are going to tell them that the problem here is that they kept private info locked away in a private part of their account? You're telling me even the tiniest part of what you'd have to say has to do with blaming them?
Officerrob
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Right...
I don't get you man.
I would feel like shit but it is what it is. I wouldn't hate the people seeking the photos out but the asshole who uploaded them.
I sure Romney didn't want that 47 percent video coming out either. That was an invasion of his privacy as well. Once it's on the internet in that fashion, it's free game.
They weren't "all over the web". I saw one picture of Jennifer Lawrence on the front page of Reddit and that's about it. You have to find these pictures. They don't come to you.
I don't know, but I still wouldn't trust them. The clouds are for the dogs. I always keep an external drive to save personal stuff.
Is it okay to look at celebrity magazines while waiting in the check out line?
Well, I for one don't blame the people who saw the leaks. Humans are curious. HOWEVER, if you found out these images were leaked without permission and still looked, YOU should be taking responsibility for it, because what you've done is violate someone's privacy without their consent, and THAT is morally wrong.
You are not a rapist, nor are you at fault~ the hacker is. But just take responsibility for what you've done and you'll be fine.
This is "not victim blaming" (I know, thats what all the victim blamers say):
People have to stop thinking that pics uploaded to iCloud/Drive/Skydrive/whatsnot are in private. Even if you are the only one(seemingly) with access, as soon as they are uploaded, the privacy ended. Google/Apple etc and the usual suspects like NSA have access and can watch your pics.
These "clouds" are ending privacy. The sooner people realize that, the better.
That doesn't change the fact that the hacker/s are to blame here. They accessed pics without any right to so and spread them, without any right to do so.
People have to stop thinking that pics uploaded to iCloud/Drive/Skydrive/whatsnot are in private. Even if you are the only one(seemingly) with access, as soon as they are uploaded, the privacy ended. Google/Apple etc and the usual suspects like NSA have access and can watch your pics.
These "clouds" are ending privacy. The sooner people realize that, the better.
That doesn't change the fact that the hacker/s are to blame here. They accessed pics without any right to so and spread them, without any right to do so.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I think some of you aren't realizing that these things are sought out and then leaked because there is a public desire for seeing these celebrities naked. It's not all on the hackers, and we can do better by acting like we want a world that doesn't have nude pics leak out like this.
Uno Venova
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They trended on twitter, are on most gossip sites, and all of the leaked photos were on /r/all. They did pretty much come to you.
SteveWinwood
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considering like how many people are banned on twitter now because of it (100 000 or something?) acting like you had to seek it out is a little out there
i completely stumbled upon a few last night
no i didnt look for them
JohnnyLovesYou
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Please. I was on twitter last night like I am every night. Celebrities were trending. I wasn't aware of what was going on. Wondering what the fuss was about, I clicked a name and nudes were in my face.
I guess I'm a fucking terrible person.
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No but based on the history of breach and hacks. OneDrive has a great track record.
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Its just something you do. Jesus christ. You obviously don't understand.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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You're taking a lot of personal offense for clicking on a trending name over an article that clearly targets people searching specifically for these things.
Why do people suddenly feel entitled to see non-consensual leaked nude pictures of other human beings? It's like it's their right to take a gander. Where is the understanding and the empathy of a person whose intimate privacy has been breached and continues to be breached every time someone seeks those pictures out.
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That is entirely subjective, morally. While I am inclined to agree with you, let people be their own moral compass dammit. Nothing is as black and white as you're painting it. You of course have the right as a human being to deem individuals who don't operate using a similar moral system as you an asshole. I don't think like that though.
Pardon? I think I might be misunderstanding the latter half of your post.
I was reading a voice actor's tweets when I noticed what was trending.
The women are the ones severely impacted by this.
Know why? Because men feel entitled to them and some want to slut shame.
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I didn't see much empathy when Deadspin purchased and published pictures of Brett Favres dick. Private photos he meant only to share with one person.
The reaction to that was laughter and everyone mocking him for being an idiot and texting dick pics.
The reaction to that was laughter and everyone mocking him for being an idiot and texting dick pics.
People that look at these photos are basically lazy peeping Tom's the only thing holding them back from secretly viewing women naked/having sex is the effort required and the risk of getting caught. If consequence is what holds from you committing these acts, then you're no different than than the person who does it regardless of the consequences.
Officerrob
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Want to know where I first heard about and saw the first couple of pics from the leak? On a message board for fans of an NFL team. They spread like wildfire yesterday
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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There is always backlash at the people who leak these things as well as those who publish them. I'd hope you'd at least understand from that how embarrassing and hurtful this is when it happens to anyone.
Wasn't he cheating on his wife though? People usually don't have pity for adulterers in this Puritan society.
jim-jam bongs
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I don't think that people should be prosecuted for viewing material which has been obtained illegally and against the wishes of those involved. From an ethical perspective, they're in the clear imo.
However, from the perspective of my personal moral compass they are huge pieces of shit. This isn't wikileaks here, we're not talking about information which is in the public interest. These are personal things which should have remained personal, and basic respect for other people means that we should all do what we can on an individual level to respect that.
However, from the perspective of my personal moral compass they are huge pieces of shit. This isn't wikileaks here, we're not talking about information which is in the public interest. These are personal things which should have remained personal, and basic respect for other people means that we should all do what we can on an individual level to respect that.
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